2025 nfl draft thread

[clyde21]

Josh Simmons is a freak man, the fact that he's already moving like above after his tear is wild. Putting up 33 on the bench too.

Gotta be in play at 11, if you have a chance to take a franchise LT you do it

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[Pattersonca65]

Some scouts take on OL prospects
https://www.ninersnation.com/2025/3/26/24394416/49ers-will-campbell-josh-conerly-kelvin-banks-armand-membou-nfl-draft

[clyde21]

scouts are propagandists, not analysts

[CrimsonCrew]

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I just think it's too risky for 11 with that injury. If it was an ACL, fine. But patellar tendons are much less predictable.

[wco81]

looks like Mike Green is an option at 11 now

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Green was kicked out of two schools and seems to have some pretty significant red flags. Not the sort of player we've gone for lately. I'd be pretty shocked if he's on the Niners' radar at 11. Hoping that the testing numbers bump up Green and Stewart. Green was way more productive, but I don't think we'll draft him. And Stewart just doesn't have the production. The more of those guys that go ahead of 11, the better.

So perfect for the KC Chiefs, especially if he slides.

[clyde21]

i doubt he lasts that long with those kinda numbers, that's freaky territory at 250 lbs, and with insane production to back it, even with the off field stuff.

[clyde21]

CC mentioned this earlier in the thread, but it seems like something went wrong at the combine at this year for some reason

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[Pattersonca65]

looks like Mike Green is an option at 11 now

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Green was kicked out of two schools and seems to have some pretty significant red flags. Not the sort of player we've gone for lately. I'd be pretty shocked if he's on the Niners' radar at 11. Hoping that the testing numbers bump up Green and Stewart. Green was way more productive, but I don't think we'll draft him. And Stewart just doesn't have the production. The more of those guys that go ahead of 11, the better.

Flash backs of Ruben Foster

[Jikkle]

looks like Mike Green is an option at 11 now

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Green was kicked out of two schools and seems to have some pretty significant red flags. Not the sort of player we've gone for lately. I'd be pretty shocked if he's on the Niners' radar at 11. Hoping that the testing numbers bump up Green and Stewart. Green was way more productive, but I don't think we'll draft him. And Stewart just doesn't have the production. The more of those guys that go ahead of 11, the better.

Flash backs of Ruben Foster

With Ruben the red flags were as bright as could be on a guy. I mean if you're getting kicked out of the combine that should take you off draft boards right there.

Not sure what the red flags are on Green are but you'd really have to do a lot of homework on the guy to see if he was just a kid making some really mistakes that he's moved past or if he's just a bad apple like Ruben and Aldon were that aren't going to stop making mistakes until their football career is in ruins.

[CrimsonCrew]

I differentiate Aldon Smith to an extent. Dude had a serious alcohol addiction that either didn't come to light or developed after he was drafted. That seemed to be the catalyst for his self-destructive behavior - though maybe toward the end there was some more serious stuff? He never seemed like a bad guy as such, at least while on the Niners. Foster had a variety of issues and just couldn't get his act together.

[Pattersonca65]

I differentiate Aldon Smith to an extent. Dude had a serious alcohol addiction that either didn't come to light or developed after he was drafted. That seemed to be the catalyst for his self-destructive behavior - though maybe toward the end there was some more serious stuff? He never seemed like a bad guy as such, at least while on the Niners. Foster had a variety of issues and just couldn't get his act together.

Apparently a pre-draft psych exam for Smith came to the conclusion that there was a high likelihood Smith would have off the field issues. How much teams put on those evaluations IDK. Aldon Smith just had recurring substance abuse violations. The last thing was he made a video of himself smoking weed. He was done in the NFL after that.

[Harry Palmer]

Just wondering where everyone sits on the system vs. talent spectrum where it’s close. Like would a guy like Ezeruiaku even be on your board, if he was available in like the 3rd, or just wasted pick?

[Jikkle]

If he's on the board still my gut tells me the pick will be Jalon Walker.

High character guy

Speed rusher to pair with Bosa

And I just think they want to get more creative on defense and Walker is a guy they have options with in how they use him. He'll primarily be rushing off the edge but they could move him around and he can be effective in doing different things to keep an offense guessing.

[CrimsonCrew]

The more I think about RB in this draft, the more I'll be upset if (when?) we take one in the third round. This draft is so deep at the position, with guys in various molds who could fit what we need. There are a boatload of somewhat undersized speedsters (loosely based on timed speed) in Bhayshul Tuten, Jaydon Blue, Brashard Smith, RJ Harvey, Trevor Etienne, DJ Giddens (he's actually got decent size), Jarquez Hunter, etc. who could/should all be available in the 4th round or later. There are bigger late-round guys like Damien Martinez, Raheim Sanders, Ollie Gordon, Tahj Brooks. And there are some pretty promising players who lack elite measurables but have great on-field production and intangibles in Devin Neal and Kyle Monangai.

I'm not saying all these guys go in the 4th or later, but I'd imagine a lot of them will. Of all years that we should not be reaching on a RB, it's this one. I think you could get a good one in the 6th or 7th round, and can definitely find a player with real potential in the Shanahan scheme in the 4th or 5th. Please, please, please wait for a great value and address bigger need/value positions first.

[CrimsonCrew]

If he's on the board still my gut tells me the pick will be Jalon Walker.

High character guy

Speed rusher to pair with Bosa

And I just think they want to get more creative on defense and Walker is a guy they have options with in how they use him. He'll primarily be rushing off the edge but they could move him around and he can be effective in doing different things to keep an offense guessing.

I wouldn't love Walker at 11. I question if he has a clear role in the NFL and on our defense. I'm not sure he's an every-down DE. I question his play downhill vs. the run and in coverage at LB. Between the two, I would prefer Jihaad Campbell.

[CrimsonCrew]

Just wondering where everyone sits on the system vs. talent spectrum where it’s close. Like would a guy like Ezeruiaku even be on your board, if he was available in like the 3rd, or just wasted pick?

I guess it depends on the fit. If Ezeruiaku is there even in the 2nd, I would strongly consider him. We desperately need pass-rush help opposite Bosa. Ezeruiaku is small, but he's one of the better pass-rushers in this class. And he has good arm length and wingspan. I'd think he could add another 10 pounds without sacrificing much movement (fair chance he dropped weight for the combine anyway). DL should be rotating more than we have been lately, anyway, so no problem for me if we're pairing him with a Sam Okuayinonu, who is taking more of the first- and second-down snaps, and he's coming in as a designated pass-rusher - especially in year one.

As I referenced above, I distinguish that from a guy like Walker, who isn't elite as either a pure pass-rusher or as a LB at this point. I wouldn't take an OG who is elite in power blocking but struggles in the outside zone. But on defense, especially when we're talking someone who can get after the QB, I'm not too worried if they only log 55% of the snaps.

[wco81]

Greg Cosset mentioned some guy, Walter Nolan I think was his name, who has flashes of Jalen Carter like dominance, 3-technique, 6-3 296.

[CrimsonCrew]

Greg Cosset mentioned some guy, Walter Nolan I think was his name, who has flashes of Jalen Carter like dominance, 3-technique, 6-3 296.

Yeah, Nolan and Harmon seem to be the two DTs who are most likely to go at 11. Seems like Nolan is falling a bit and Harmon is climbing. It would be ideal to trade down and take one of them in the late-teens or early-20s, but not sure there will be much trade market at 11.

[clyde21]

The more I think about RB in this draft, the more I'll be upset if (when?) we take one in the third round. This draft is so deep at the position, with guys in various molds who could fit what we need. There are a boatload of somewhat undersized speedsters (loosely based on timed speed) in Bhayshul Tuten, Jaydon Blue, Brashard Smith, RJ Harvey, Trevor Etienne, DJ Giddens (he's actually got decent size), Jarquez Hunter, etc. who could/should all be available in the 4th round or later. There are bigger late-round guys like Damien Martinez, Raheim Sanders, Ollie Gordon, Tahj Brooks. And there are some pretty promising players who lack elite measurables but have great on-field production and intangibles in Devin Neal and Kyle Monangai.

I'm not saying all these guys go in the 4th or later, but I'd imagine a lot of them will. Of all years that we should not be reaching on a RB, it's this one. I think you could get a good one in the 6th or 7th round, and can definitely find a player with real potential in the Shanahan scheme in the 4th or 5th. Please, please, please wait for a great value and address bigger need/value positions first.

to be fair, there are also a bunch of guys on the IOL and DL that can be had in the 3rd/4th, too. i'm not advocating for a RB early but I see a path where the FO identifies a guy like Skatt or Henderson early who would be great fits here and just go IOL/DT a bit later depending on what we did 1st/2nd.

like, if we take Derrick Harmon at 11 for example, and then a DE in the 2nd, i don't think it's out of the realm of possibility we go RB with our first 3rd, and then IOL with our second 3rd or 4ths.

I just don't see us addressing JUST the DL/OL with our four top 100 picks, i think they'll go skill at at least one of these picks.

[Pattersonca65]

The more I think about RB in this draft, the more I'll be upset if (when?) we take one in the third round. This draft is so deep at the position, with guys in various molds who could fit what we need. There are a boatload of somewhat undersized speedsters (loosely based on timed speed) in Bhayshul Tuten, Jaydon Blue, Brashard Smith, RJ Harvey, Trevor Etienne, DJ Giddens (he's actually got decent size), Jarquez Hunter, etc. who could/should all be available in the 4th round or later. There are bigger late-round guys like Damien Martinez, Raheim Sanders, Ollie Gordon, Tahj Brooks. And there are some pretty promising players who lack elite measurables but have great on-field production and intangibles in Devin Neal and Kyle Monangai.

I'm not saying all these guys go in the 4th or later, but I'd imagine a lot of them will. Of all years that we should not be reaching on a RB, it's this one. I think you could get a good one in the 6th or 7th round, and can definitely find a player with real potential in the Shanahan scheme in the 4th or 5th. Please, please, please wait for a great value and address bigger need/value positions first.

to be fair, there are also a bunch of guys on the IOL and DL that can be had in the 3rd/4th, too. i'm not advocating for a RB early but I see a path where the FO identifies a guy like Skatt or Henderson early who would be great fits here and just go IOL/DT a bit later depending on what we did 1st/2nd.

like, if we take Derrick Harmon at 11 for example, and then a DE in the 2nd, i don't think it's out of the realm of possibility we go RB with our first 3rd, and then IOL with our second 3rd or 4ths.

I just don't see us addressing JUST the DL/OL with our four top 100 picks, i think they'll go skill at at least one of these picks.

You are right. This regime has defied conventional wisdom in the past and can go BPA or go after a player they want. I dont think there were many who thought the 49ers would choose a WR with their top pick last year and this year after FA there alot more holes to fill and positions they can go with their top pick