PG: Clippers vs. Knicks: Let the Bodies Hit the Floor

[ctorres]

OG is now at 17.3 ppg for the season, the highest of his career

So is that good enough for the amount of money he got on that contract or does it fall on Thibs since he’s running him like secretarían. I see OG and he is running on fumes like I need a breather and coach just keeps pushing the envelope expecting great results.

If he plays defense to warrant 1st or 2nd All Defensive Team, then yes

He gets between 2 or 3 stocks a game and also passes the eye test defensively

So he is Kawhi-lite

[spree8]

Hart very ineffective. 3 PT shooting once again an issue. That run in the 3rd had a couple of blown coverages from Hart.

Hart was famously supposed to work on shooting last summer with his buddy JJ Redick. Obviously didn't happen after JJ got the Lakers job. But how did he not get with a shooting specialist to work on it? If he came back from the summer as an average shooter even, it would've made a huge difference. Teams sagging off him kills the offense

Hart doesn't load his wrist.







Loaded wrist = palm facing the ceiling, Hart's palm faces the rim.

It's easy to spot, but probably not easy to fix considering how old he is now.

Shyt looks like a catapult

[spree8]

this def isn’t all on thibs either, the roster construction is a bit clunky

He gets all the blame in my book

[TKKnicks1]

Sure this team has it's flaws but the biggest flaw it has is Thibs. Absolutely zero feel on how to maximize the talent we have.

[kNicksGmen]

Towns was a +2. What went wrong when he was out???????????????????

-29 from Shamet. I'm sure KAT was a - in the 2nd half, too.

Kat was -2 in the 2nd half. Was prob a little worse before that mini run at the very end when the game was already over though.

Shamet was -21 in 9 minutes and Mitch -19 in less than 8.

Batum, bogs, Jones Jr and Simmons were all +15 or more in like 10 minutes in the 2nd half. That's when the game was lost.

[The KnicksFix]

Boston just shoots 3’s
Mazzulla def has these guys out there just chucking threes in practice
They’re about to take 50 in this game
Yea we are bbq chicken in the second round

[rajajackal]

3rd quarter i decided season was over

[The KnicksFix]

Say the KAT trade never happens,
How many wins does
JB Donte Mikal OG Randle precious deuce Mitch give us?
I feel like we would be right about the same LOL

yep. we went all in financially and spent all our picks to be around the same as last year. said it before the year started.

Well that tells me it's most likely a coaching issue.

That’s precisely it…
For the team to have the same record last year, and to not have a bench, is a testament to the skill of the players, not the coach.
If you change the coach, you can add on 5-10 more wins

[sol537]

Thibs is awful. We should be right up there with the big three teams (OKC, BOS, CLE) or just a hair below. Right now, there’s a wide chasm between us and them… that’s on the coach. He needs a Thibs roster. A treadmill pretender type team. He’s out of his league with this roster.

[snadler]

It’s funny how people are reacting to a meaningless game late in march on a back to back playing your 4th string pg. It’s crazy the overreactions. Every loss is magnified and every win is meaningless. If you watch the nba and follow other teams besides the knicks, majority of teams rest their starters and call it injury management on back to backs, they just take the L’s and move on. The knicks don’t have that strategy, I actually sometimes wished they did, for one players can use the rest and second for some of you fans don’t take every regular season loss as if it’s a season ender.

[Clyde_Style]

3rd quarter i decided season was over

This season is a wrap in terms of being a contender. That's water under the bridge already.

We have some very good individual pieces, but as presently constructed we are a weak defensive team. And that's with or without Thibs as the coach.

The FO needs to get serious about the lack of frontline defense. It is possible Mitch is not going to find a new gear and they cannot go another season without a strong defensive presence in the paint. Huk may become a solid role player, but they need more.

Solve that and replace Thibs and you'll have plenty of ingredients to make a superior team next season. This season has been teetering on the brink of failure for half the season already. They will be lucky to win a round in the playoffs.

[snadler]

Thibs is awful. We should be right up there with the big three teams (OKC, BOS, CLE) or just a hair below. Right now, there’s a wide chasm between us and them… that’s on the coach. He needs a Thibs roster. A treadmill pretender type team. He’s out of his league with this roster.

Landry Shamet, precious, cam payne as 3 of your major bench pieces and compare that bench to the cavs talent and c’s talent is just flat out foolish. The knicks are right where they should be, the 3rd seed in the east. They are not as good as the champs and cleveland is having an incredible regular season, pat riley, red aeurbach, phil jackson all would have this roster in the same exact spot. This is not a 60 win roster, if you believe that you are on something

[oldshoolballer]

Have to win half of the next 10 games to win 50

Not likely

With all the money invested and assets given up we are about the same as last year's team.

[GettinitDone]

Say the KAT trade never happens,
How many wins does
JB Donte Mikal OG Randle precious deuce Mitch give us?
I feel like we would be right about the same LOL

yep. we went all in financially and spent all our picks to be around the same as last year. said it before the year started.

I'm one of the few who wish the KAT trade had not happened.

He is not shooting as many 3s as he should be, he's not working very well with JB, just good but nothing special, no really pick and roll/ pop actions between them, and his bad defense may outweigh his good offense. At the end of the day, he's not shooting enough 3s to make our team offense formidable. I really can't care less about his All Star starter selection.

Randle is a dog and physical, he somehow complements the rest of our "finesse" team very well, and if we have too many forwards he could always be traded for someone else.

But imo the biggest loss is Divo who stretched opponents' D last year and imo really allowed JB, Randle, and OG to thrive offensively. He also always brought it every night, he always moved without the ball to promote more ball movement, and his competitive/ fight on-court demeanor was contagious to the rest of the team.

And, another thing I noted about KAT is he may not be the most easy going guy in the locker room, he seems to put a front because he wants to be seen in certain lights, but not seen in others, so it's hard if you're his teammate to be yourself around someone who puts on a social mask, so to speak.

[HopelessKnick]

Going back 3 years prior to the Brunson signing we were essentially a .500 win team with Randle, Barrett and the young guys. After trading all our assets and future assets we are still essentially a .500 win team without Brunson. This is not a good look on Leon. He turned over the entire team + massive future picks for exactly the same result. Not good, not good at all.

[HopelessKnick]

Say the KAT trade never happens,
How many wins does
JB Donte Mikal OG Randle precious deuce Mitch give us?
I feel like we would be right about the same LOL

yep. we went all in financially and spent all our picks to be around the same as last year. said it before the year started.

I'm one of the few who wish the KAT trade had not happened.

He is not shooting as many 3s as he should be, he's not working very well with JB, just good but nothing special, no really pick and roll/ pop actions between them, and his bad defense may outweigh his good offense. At the end of the day, he's not shooting enough 3s to make our team offense formidable. I really can't care less about his All Star starter selection.

Randle is a dog and physical, he somehow complements the rest of our "finesse" team very well, and if we have too many forwards he could always be traded for someone else.

But imo the biggest loss is Divo who stretched opponents' D last year and imo really allowed JB, Randle, and OG to thrive offensively. He also always brought it every night, he always moved without the ball to promote more ball movement, and his competitive/ fight on-court demeanor was contagious to the rest of the team.

And, another thing I noted about KAT is he may not be the most easy going guy in the locker room, he seems to put a front because he wants to be seen in certain lights, but not seen in others, so it's hard if you're his teammate to be yourself around someone who puts on a social mask, so to speak.

That's surely up for debate. Even more so with the Detroit pick conveying and being a nice mid first round pick. Keep in mind though that one of the motivating factors for the trade was Hartenstein leaving the team. The FO extending the maximum offer they were allowed to offer so the plan was to keep Hartenstein around IMO. If Hartenstein stays the trade likely does not happen. Then when he left they needed to acquire a Center because Mitch was going to miss at least half the season.

As for DD---like all of you I loved DD as well. I do however feel like the main reason the trade has not worked out is not because we lost Randle and DD....it is because we lost 2 guys contributing well while playin 30minutes or more. We essentially lost a starter and all-star + an excellent bench player. If Leon can find a way to acquire a guard capable of getting 12points off the bench on effective shooting and solid defense, we may make a big jump forward. But it won't be easy at all with no assets left.

To me the big problem is/was the Bridges trade. Every questionable move could have been undone and despite our struggles I would have been pretty positive....but the fact that we have no tradable FRPs really left (WAS pick aside) and are clearly not a contender is kind of a bit disheartening. Maybe a new coach can put things into place better but I do see aspects of this team that won't be easy to fix.

[Reign23]

nothing to be mad about. We hung with a very good team for 3 quarters on a b2b w/o Brunson, McBride and Payne.
KAT and OG are awesome.

[3toheadmelo]

Say the KAT trade never happens,
How many wins does
JB Donte Mikal OG Randle precious deuce Mitch give us?
I feel like we would be right about the same LOL

yep. we went all in financially and spent all our picks to be around the same as last year. said it before the year started.

I'm one of the few who wish the KAT trade had not happened.

He is not shooting as many 3s as he should be, he's not working very well with JB, just good but nothing special, no really pick and roll/ pop actions between them, and his bad defense may outweigh his good offense. At the end of the day, he's not shooting enough 3s to make our team offense formidable. I really can't care less about his All Star starter selection.

Randle is a dog and physical, he somehow complements the rest of our "finesse" team very well, and if we have too many forwards he could always be traded for someone else.

But imo the biggest loss is Divo who stretched opponents' D last year and imo really allowed JB, Randle, and OG to thrive offensively. He also always brought it every night, he always moved without the ball to promote more ball movement, and his competitive/ fight on-court demeanor was contagious to the rest of the team.

And, another thing I noted about KAT is he may not be the most easy going guy in the locker room, he seems to put a front because he wants to be seen in certain lights, but not seen in others, so it's hard if you're his teammate to be yourself around someone who puts on a social mask, so to speak.

Facts!

[Adelheid]

kolek and mikal is a good combo so i noticed from the past few games

[Jalen Bluntson]

Good morning.
Fire Thibs.
Thanks.
Bye.