Mavericks out: Dwight Powell,PJ Washington, Mavericks 2025 pick(likely 12-14 range),Lakers 2029 1st round pick
Mavericks In: Coby White
Magic out: Wendell Carter Jr, Magic 2025 1st round pick(12-15th pick), Tristan Da Silva
Magic In: PJ Washington
Bulls out: Coby White
Bulls In: Wendell Carter Jr,Tristan Da Silva, Dwight Powell, Magic 2025 1st round pick(likely in the 12-15 range) + Mavericks 2025 1st round pick(likely 12-14)+Lakers 2029 1st round pick
Why the Mavericks do this: Their playmaking and offensive issues are well documented with the loss of Luka Doncic. They gain some of that back with the addition of Coby White.
Why the Magic do this? They upgrade from Wendell Carter Jr while still having the assets to chase after a offensive star guard with their remaining assets(Devin Booker or Trae Young?)
Why the Bulls do this: They get multiple 1st round picks, including possibly 2 late lottery picks and a solid young prospect in Tristan Da Silva back in exchange for Coby White.
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I like Coby White, but a good starter, a lottery pick and an unprotected first is just more than I would be willing to pay for one year of him.
My offer would probably be Klay/25 DAL 1st. And if Chicago balks, I say I understand and move on to the next target.
My offer would probably be Klay/25 DAL 1st. And if Chicago balks, I say I understand and move on to the next target.
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Man, what a massive overpay by DAL (and a not so massive overpay by ORL).
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The Mavs don't do this. PJ, with his size and defense, is worth at least as much as White, plus a suspicious fit with KI once he's healthy. I don't understand it for the MAGIC either. PJ isn't a center, he's a 4, and he overlaps with Banchelo...
Mavs counteroffer? Lively+Klay+Martin for Suggs
Mavs counteroffer? Lively+Klay+Martin for Suggs
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This is a bit rich for Coby White. He is a low-end starter who can't orchestrate an offense and is best suited to play next to a larger lead ball-handler.
He is in the Collin Sexton tier/type of guards, where you don't want them as your lead guard, but they also don't do enough other things to make you excited about having them, and you would certainly be disappointed if your team spent multiple, real assets to acquire them.
Seems to me Coby White is overrated here, and all the statistical footprints we have of him from this year and past seasons suggest the same.
He is in the Collin Sexton tier/type of guards, where you don't want them as your lead guard, but they also don't do enough other things to make you excited about having them, and you would certainly be disappointed if your team spent multiple, real assets to acquire them.
Seems to me Coby White is overrated here, and all the statistical footprints we have of him from this year and past seasons suggest the same.
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Doesn't make ANY sense for ORL...why trade their starting Center, a solid rookie scale find, and a valuable FRP (hopefully, their last lotto pick for a while)...for Paolo's backup?
I like PJ, but doesn't make sense. WCJ is nice for DAL, because he can play more on the perimeter as well as down low, so he can play WITH Lively or AD, to make a solid big man rotation. Gafford makes a lot more sense, but still a big overpay from ORL. I'd say WCJ and DEN pick for Gafford. I'd be happy to also take PJ in return for other pieces potentially...
DAL sends: PJ, Gaff
ORL sends: WCJ, KCP, DEN 25 frp
I like PJ, but doesn't make sense. WCJ is nice for DAL, because he can play more on the perimeter as well as down low, so he can play WITH Lively or AD, to make a solid big man rotation. Gafford makes a lot more sense, but still a big overpay from ORL. I'd say WCJ and DEN pick for Gafford. I'd be happy to also take PJ in return for other pieces potentially...
DAL sends: PJ, Gaff
ORL sends: WCJ, KCP, DEN 25 frp
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Skybox wrote:DAL sends: PJ, Gaff
ORL sends: WCJ, KCP, DEN 25 frp
So Dallas downgrades at center in order to swap PJ for KCP and a late first? I can't see why Dallas considers this. Other than "balance". But WCJ shoots like 20% from 3 so this idea of him as a spacer is not matching reality.
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I got PJ and White roughly equal in trade value. This is a wild overpayment for a guy that likely projects as a 6th man on a contending team.
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Apparently you saw that Coby White won back to back player of the week awards, he would have been nothing a month ago.
The Bull don't really want 2 centers back so they would have FIVE on the roster with Smith signed, Collins expiring and Vucevic ready to be traded. Nobody would give them a break seeing the corner they backed themselves into
What makes you thin Wendell Carter jr would be one bit happy returning to CHI? Powell even with Vuc gone would be 4th in line on the bench, happy veteran?
The Laker pick would be an investment, do they still have Luka to build around then? Otherwise the Bulls have their own lottery pick back, there's an outside chance PORT keeps winning to get out of the lottery and the Bulls draft #15 so they really don't want to draft 4 rookies this year no matter what kind of draft if turns out to be. They have 14 players under contract for next year before this trade, they move Coby and get back 3 players under contract and could add 3 lottery picks + #15. You didn't think it through very well because that looks like 19 or 20 players with contracts. Do you think they should just buyout or cut which bunch?
Lousy trade
The Bull don't really want 2 centers back so they would have FIVE on the roster with Smith signed, Collins expiring and Vucevic ready to be traded. Nobody would give them a break seeing the corner they backed themselves into
What makes you thin Wendell Carter jr would be one bit happy returning to CHI? Powell even with Vuc gone would be 4th in line on the bench, happy veteran?
The Laker pick would be an investment, do they still have Luka to build around then? Otherwise the Bulls have their own lottery pick back, there's an outside chance PORT keeps winning to get out of the lottery and the Bulls draft #15 so they really don't want to draft 4 rookies this year no matter what kind of draft if turns out to be. They have 14 players under contract for next year before this trade, they move Coby and get back 3 players under contract and could add 3 lottery picks + #15. You didn't think it through very well because that looks like 19 or 20 players with contracts. Do you think they should just buyout or cut which bunch?
Lousy trade
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