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Re: Derik Queen 

Post#81 » by azcatz11 » Mon Mar 24, 2025 4:46 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
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He just looks like he needs to get in better shape and develop his body.

The tools are there to be okay defensively and combined with his offensive prowess he should be good.


if you're at this level and are both out of shape and seemingly disinterested on defense, there's really very little hope that he will change his ways. If making it into the league and being a high lottery pick isn't enough motivation then nothing will be. I am evaluating him based on the notion that he's a below average defender without a position. His offense is good enough to make that palatable but only if he lands with a team that runs a lot of action through him so landing spot is paramount.


I am evaluating him from a position of I am from Maryland. My fraternity brothers are from the DMV and Baltimore. You have no clue. Motivation? Disinterested. Go back and watch Nique Clifford when Queen alone defended him twenty feet from the basket. He couldn't dribble past Derik, and he passed. Average defender? Who blocked that CSU shot as the score was 64-64? Palatable offense? Queen hit two threes. Maryland's guards froze him out the last 10 minutes. SO WHAT happened next? "Coach, give me the MF ball." How'd that work out?


So because you are from the state he is from, that gives you authority? I think you need to grow up.
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Re: Derik Queen 

Post#82 » by SeattleJazzFan » Mon Mar 24, 2025 5:16 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:
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He just looks like he needs to get in better shape and develop his body.

The tools are there to be okay defensively and combined with his offensive prowess he should be good.


if you're at this level and are both out of shape and seemingly disinterested on defense, there's really very little hope that he will change his ways. If making it into the league and being a high lottery pick isn't enough motivation then nothing will be. I am evaluating him based on the notion that he's a below average defender without a position. His offense is good enough to make that palatable but only if he lands with a team that runs a lot of action through him so landing spot is paramount.


I am evaluating him from a position of I am from Maryland. My fraternity brothers are from the DMV and Baltimore. You have no clue. Motivation? Disinterested. Go back and watch Nique Clifford when Queen alone defended him twenty feet from the basket. He couldn't dribble past Derik, and he passed. Average defender? Who blocked that CSU shot as the score was 64-64? Palatable offense? Queen hit two threes. Maryland's guards froze him out the last 10 minutes. SO WHAT happened next? "Coach, give me the MF ball." How'd that work out?


lol. if anything, being from maryland makes you biased.
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Re: Derik Queen 

Post#83 » by Klomp » Mon Mar 24, 2025 7:44 pm

I don't know why, but he reminds me of a pre-weight loss version of Naz Reid.

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Re: Derik Queen 

Post#84 » by Negrodamus » Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:17 pm

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He just doesn’t try on defense. He doesn’t move his feet at all. He’s lazy. I think it’s fixable and he can at least be somewhat passable


He just looks like he needs to get in better shape and develop his body.

The tools are there to be okay defensively and combined with his offensive prowess he should be good.


if you're at this level and are both out of shape and seemingly disinterested on defense, there's really very little hope that he will change his ways. If making it into the league and being a high lottery pick isn't enough motivation then nothing will be. I am evaluating him based on the notion that he's a below average defender without a position. His offense is good enough to make that palatable but only if he lands with a team that runs a lot of action through him so landing spot is paramount.


Cousins and Kel’el Ware are two guys who come to mind that had frequent lapses in defense due to effort.

Not a weight problem, but go watch Ben Simmons at LSU again; often looked completely checked out on defense.

I trust the stats now over the look test on how they project on defense and Queen passes. I think he, and probably Willard, recognize his availability is more important than his rim protection; so he doesn’t go hunting for blocks that’ll only turn into fouls.
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Post#85 » by EvanZ » Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:27 pm

I went to John’s Hopkins so I’m an expert on Baltimore lol.
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Post#86 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Mar 25, 2025 9:59 pm

EvanZ wrote:I went to John’s Hopkins so I’m an expert on Baltimore lol.

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Re: Derik Queen 

Post#87 » by Upperclass » Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:24 am

He looks like he may be injury prone in the pros based on his body composition. He doesn't seem lazy but he also doesn't seem like he has a super high motor when he's not getting the ball. Should be a better player but reminds me of Thomas Bryant
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Re: Derik Queen 

Post#88 » by azcatz11 » Wed Mar 26, 2025 4:48 am

Upperclass wrote:He looks like he may be injury prone in the pros based on his body composition. He doesn't seem lazy but he also doesn't seem like he has a super high motor when he's not getting the ball. Should be a better player but reminds me of Thomas Bryant


He's very lazy on defense. It's actually embarrassing how lazy he is. I don't know if I buy the not picking up fouls thing either...it just looks like he doesn't care about playing defense.

You need to pair him with a stretch 5 whose also a rim protector...like Chet. That's maybe the only way this will work with him. OKC would obviously be a great fit for him. Indiana also
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Re: Derik Queen 

Post#89 » by FrightCoward » Fri Mar 28, 2025 2:07 am

Dude had probably the least impressive 27 point game in history. All he did was foul bait all game with his annoying Harden head jerks and don’t even get me started on his defense where he didn’t even make an effort. This guy will be the epitome of empty stats at the next level, stay far away.
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Re: Derik Queen 

Post#90 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Mar 28, 2025 4:53 am

azcatz11 wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:
if you're at this level and are both out of shape and seemingly disinterested on defense, there's really very little hope that he will change his ways. If making it into the league and being a high lottery pick isn't enough motivation then nothing will be. I am evaluating him based on the notion that he's a below average defender without a position. His offense is good enough to make that palatable but only if he lands with a team that runs a lot of action through him so landing spot is paramount.


I am evaluating him from a position of I am from Maryland. My fraternity brothers are from the DMV and Baltimore. You have no clue. Motivation? Disinterested. Go back and watch Nique Clifford when Queen alone defended him twenty feet from the basket. He couldn't dribble past Derik, and he passed. Average defender? Who blocked that CSU shot as the score was 64-64? Palatable offense? Queen hit two threes. Maryland's guards froze him out the last 10 minutes. SO WHAT happened next? "Coach, give me the MF ball." How'd that work out?


So because you are from the state he is from, that gives you authority? I think you need to grow up.
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Re: Derik Queen 

Post#91 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Mar 28, 2025 4:54 am

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:
if you're at this level and are both out of shape and seemingly disinterested on defense, there's really very little hope that he will change his ways. If making it into the league and being a high lottery pick isn't enough motivation then nothing will be. I am evaluating him based on the notion that he's a below average defender without a position. His offense is good enough to make that palatable but only if he lands with a team that runs a lot of action through him so landing spot is paramount.


I am evaluating him from a position of I am from Maryland. My fraternity brothers are from the DMV and Baltimore. You have no clue. Motivation? Disinterested. Go back and watch Nique Clifford when Queen alone defended him twenty feet from the basket. He couldn't dribble past Derik, and he passed. Average defender? Who blocked that CSU shot as the score was 64-64? Palatable offense? Queen hit two threes. Maryland's guards froze him out the last 10 minutes. SO WHAT happened next? "Coach, give me the MF ball." How'd that work out?


lol. if anything, being from maryland makes you biased.
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Re: Derik Queen 

Post#92 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Mar 28, 2025 4:58 am

FrightCoward wrote:Dude had probably the least impressive 27 point game in history. All he did was foul bait all game with his annoying Harden head jerks and don’t even get me started on his defense where he didn’t even make an effort. This guy will be the epitome of empty stats at the next level, stay far away.
I think he will be drafted #9 by the Spurs.

Queen and Wembegyana. Remember you said empty stats guy.
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Re: Derik Queen 

Post#93 » by JMAC3 » Fri Mar 28, 2025 4:24 pm

FrightCoward wrote:Dude had probably the least impressive 27 point game in history. All he did was foul bait all game with his annoying Harden head jerks and don’t even get me started on his defense where he didn’t even make an effort. This guy will be the epitome of empty stats at the next level, stay far away.


What? He had 27 pts on 17 shots, and that is the worst game of 27 in history? gtfoh lol.
A freshman vs a top 3 team in country just was the best player on the floor.

62% TS% and 13.5 BPM

The rest of Maryland shot under 38%.
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Re: Derik Queen 

Post#94 » by azcatz11 » Fri Mar 28, 2025 4:31 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
FrightCoward wrote:Dude had probably the least impressive 27 point game in history. All he did was foul bait all game with his annoying Harden head jerks and don’t even get me started on his defense where he didn’t even make an effort. This guy will be the epitome of empty stats at the next level, stay far away.


What? He had 27 pts on 17 shots, and that is the worst game of 27 in history? gtfoh lol.
A freshman vs a top 3 team in country just was the best player on the floor.

62% TS% and 13.5 BPM

The rest of Maryland shot under 38%.


I really hate to talk like this but his absolute best case scenario is a poor man’s sengun…and idk what that will give you at the next level.
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Re: Derik Queen 

Post#95 » by FrightCoward » Fri Mar 28, 2025 5:51 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
FrightCoward wrote:Dude had probably the least impressive 27 point game in history. All he did was foul bait all game with his annoying Harden head jerks and don’t even get me started on his defense where he didn’t even make an effort. This guy will be the epitome of empty stats at the next level, stay far away.


What? He had 27 pts on 17 shots, and that is the worst game of 27 in history? gtfoh lol.
A freshman vs a top 3 team in country just was the best player on the floor.

62% TS% and 13.5 BPM

The rest of Maryland shot under 38%.


His defense might as well not even exist, he’s abysmal on that end of the court and his offense is conducive of being bigger and stronger than most players in college and foul baiting, not a fan. He’s going to be an empty stats player who has no effect on winning in the NBA.
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Re: Derik Queen 

Post#96 » by JMAC3 » Fri Mar 28, 2025 5:56 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
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FrightCoward wrote:Dude had probably the least impressive 27 point game in history. All he did was foul bait all game with his annoying Harden head jerks and don’t even get me started on his defense where he didn’t even make an effort. This guy will be the epitome of empty stats at the next level, stay far away.


What? He had 27 pts on 17 shots, and that is the worst game of 27 in history? gtfoh lol.
A freshman vs a top 3 team in country just was the best player on the floor.

62% TS% and 13.5 BPM

The rest of Maryland shot under 38%.


I really hate to talk like this but his absolute best case scenario is a poor man’s sengun…and idk what that will give you at the next level.


Big Ten Freshman of the Year, First team all-big ten. He is 6-10, 245lbs. It is not like he is 6-6 center who is going to be massively undersized in the NBA nor is he is some terrible stiff athlete. He can put the ball on the floor, shot it some already, passes really well. His game is going to fit the NBA well.

He is going to be able to play the top of the key position, where you run dribble handoffs, PnR with him and if his man sits in the paint he is really good at putting the ball on the floor eating up that space the defender leaves to draw fouls and get to the rim with his dribble and footwork at his size.

His face up game + passing is going to make him very good offensive player in the NBA.
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Post#97 » by JMAC3 » Fri Mar 28, 2025 6:05 pm

FrightCoward wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
FrightCoward wrote:Dude had probably the least impressive 27 point game in history. All he did was foul bait all game with his annoying Harden head jerks and don’t even get me started on his defense where he didn’t even make an effort. This guy will be the epitome of empty stats at the next level, stay far away.


What? He had 27 pts on 17 shots, and that is the worst game of 27 in history? gtfoh lol.
A freshman vs a top 3 team in country just was the best player on the floor.

62% TS% and 13.5 BPM

The rest of Maryland shot under 38%.


His defense might as well not even exist, he’s abysmal on that end of the court and his offense is conducive of being bigger and stronger than most players in college and foul baiting, not a fan. He’s going to be an empty stats player who has no effect on winning in the NBA.


You think his game is built on being bigger and stronger as a college freshman? Imagine how much stronger he will be at age 24 or 25 instead of 20 yrs old. Trying to decide if a kid is going to effect winning in the NBA when he dominated college basketball as a freshman is a really weird way of trying to box him in as a player at a very young age.

Especially when BPM has him the 8th best freshman in the country.
10 best Defensive BPM among freshman too lol

Overall I think labeling players as winning and losing players is simply a bad decision 90% of the time at virtually any level of basketball, because winning and losing is team dependent the majority of the time.
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Re: Derik Queen 

Post#98 » by 165bows » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:23 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
FrightCoward wrote:Dude had probably the least impressive 27 point game in history. All he did was foul bait all game with his annoying Harden head jerks and don’t even get me started on his defense where he didn’t even make an effort. This guy will be the epitome of empty stats at the next level, stay far away.


What? He had 27 pts on 17 shots, and that is the worst game of 27 in history? gtfoh lol.
A freshman vs a top 3 team in country just was the best player on the floor.

62% TS% and 13.5 BPM

The rest of Maryland shot under 38%.

I never understood why we got rid of points per possession as a stat. He was efficient as a scorer but that stat describes that so much better.
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Post#99 » by CptCrunch » Sat Mar 29, 2025 7:15 pm

Queen has way too much raw talent and efficient box score stats to not be drafted in the lotto.
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Post#100 » by MalonesElbows » Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:13 pm

CptCrunch wrote:Queen has way too much raw talent and efficient box score stats to not be drafted in the lotto.


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