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Post#61 » by Packbuckman » Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:33 pm

pifhluk23 wrote:Firing Doc isn't going to save this team, you could replace him with Spoelstra right now and they might lose 2-4 in the 1st rd instead of 0-4. He's just one of many different problems that I don't see getting fixed this off season. End of an era unfolding right now..

He is the main problem having consistently starting prince since the kuzma trade and not Trent should get you fired right there! His rotations and offense is just pathetic coaching matters and spoelstra would have this team winning over 50 gms easily before dame went out.
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Post#62 » by fan230 » Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:40 pm

Is there any coach directly or indirectly from the pop tree? I think Bud or Atkinson type coach would lend us stability as a team. If we can’t get that, a Brad Stevens type coach could be good.

Portis will help a lot; that suspension has really hurt the Bucks.

Kpj seems to have hit a wall and that takes out our most promising upside player. I continue to think that he should get much more minutes as he is one player who can create for others.

Khris for all his injury related situations, was a good creator even recently. Kuzma is quite the wrong kind of player for the Bucks; Horst should have known.

The other high upside player was Aj Johnson. He has gone. We should, as others have said, try to build a younger team with breadth and depth.

We failed to get a good player for the Khris trade. It is most crucial to get a good player soon by trading Dame before he gets too old.

We are losing consistently now as there is nobody other than Giannis and Brook, who are contributing on both offense and defense.

Doc is going to be fired but before that, he should try to play our younger players like Smith and Livingston more. Play Prince and Kuzma less. Plsy kpj more. Shake up the roster. Our “team “ has no enthusiasm now; I hope we make these minutes changes starting tomorrow. Nothing good will happen with Prince and Kuzma.
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Post#63 » by ReasonablySober » Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:41 pm

Who knows. Maybe the Heat and Spo mutually agree that they're at the end of their run.
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Post#64 » by KidA24 » Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:51 pm

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Giannis doesn't believe in exploiting matchups. His ego won't let him do that.

You saw that way back against Brooklyn, when he refused to put Harden in any actions when Harden could barely walk.
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Post#65 » by fan230 » Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:54 pm

We had a higher percentage in both fg and 3 points. Still we lost. Our high turnovers were a major cause; the biggest number of turnovers came from Kuzma and Rollins. Doc needs to focus on reducing turnovers.
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Post#66 » by BigO » Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:55 pm

Just think of the unity on this board:

1) The vast majority want a new coach.

2) The vast majority want a new GM

3) The vast majority think the roster is not championship caliber and the Kuzma trade was a bad one.

The problem lies in after you get rid of Doc and Horst, then what?

My suggestions:

1) I think OKC and Cleveland have done a great job drafting and trading. Get someone from that tree.

2) Coach- Look at Frank Vogel, Taylor Jenkins(need to get details of what happened),emphasize coaches who are willing to change and adapt
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Post#67 » by pifhluk23 » Sat Mar 29, 2025 2:09 pm

BigO wrote:Just think of the unity on this board:

1) The vast majority want a new coach.

2) The vqast majority want a new GM

3) The vast majority think the roster is not championship caliber and the Kuzma trade was a bad one.

The problem lies in after you get rid of Doc and Horst, then what?

My suggestions:

1) I think OKC and Cleveland have done a great job drafting and trading. Get someone from that tree.

2) Coach- Look at Frank Vogel, Taylor Jenkins(need to get details of what happened),emphasize coaches who are willing to change and adapt


I think we need a full teardown. I'm torn on whether that includes Giannis assuming he even wants to stay. On one hand he's a once in 20+ years kinda guy and you just pray you can build something around him (personally I don't see it being possible anymore.) On the other hand he's 31 next season, his trade value is likely maxed out this Summer and starts declining from there.

If OKC whiffs again and assuming Giannis is ok going there, it would be really hard to turn down a nice package from them.
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Post#68 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Mar 29, 2025 2:15 pm

fan230 wrote:Is there any coach directly or indirectly from the pop tree? I think Bud or Atkinson type coach would lend us stability as a team. If we can’t get that, a Brad Stevens type coach could be good.

Portis will help a lot; that suspension has really hurt the Bucks.

Kpj seems to have hit a wall and that takes out our most promising upside player. I continue to think that he should get much more minutes as he is one player who can create for others.

Khris for all his injury related situations, was a good creator even recently. Kuzma is quite the wrong kind of player for the Bucks; Horst should have known.

The other high upside player was Aj Johnson. He has gone. We should, as others have said, try to build a younger team with breadth and depth.

We failed to get a good player for the Khris trade. It is most crucial to get a good player soon by trading Dame before he gets too old.

We are losing consistently now as there is nobody other than Giannis and Brook, who are contributing on both offense and defense.

Doc is going to be fired but before that, he should try to play our younger players like Smith and Livingston more. Play Prince and Kuzma less. Plsy kpj more. Shake up the roster. Our “team “ has no enthusiasm now; I hope we make these minutes changes starting tomorrow. Nothing good will happen with Prince and Kuzma.


Smith and Livingston aren't even good G League players. Doc has no options. I agree that Prince and Kuzma stink. The fact that Smith and Livingston are on our roster is an indictment of how awful Horst is at his job.

He wouldn't have gotten the job, but it's an indictment of how clueless our ownership is that he wasn't allowed to interview for the Detroit job.
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Post#69 » by trwi7 » Sat Mar 29, 2025 2:34 pm

I would say tank but I don't even know what years we have our 1st round pick anymore.
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Post#70 » by Neuromancer56 » Sat Mar 29, 2025 2:47 pm

I refuse to give into the gloom and doom. I see Bobby, Dame, and hopefully Jericho coming back for the playoffs and us winning it all. I will let no negative thoughts in my mind.
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Post#71 » by drew881 » Sat Mar 29, 2025 2:52 pm

Do we have any update on Sims? Thinking he and Porter can solve the rebounding woes. I don’t think it will get us past the Knicks in Round 1 (assuming no Dame) but it won’t be as ugly.
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Post#72 » by Milbucks96 » Sat Mar 29, 2025 2:58 pm

Neuromancer56 wrote:I refuse to give into the gloom and doom. I see Bobby, Dame, and hopefully Jericho coming back for the playoffs and us winning it all. I will let no negative thoughts in my mind.

I can see the bucks having a better playoff performance than expected, like beating the pacers in round one or something. I can’t see Dame coming back anytime soon though. Have no knowledge of the medical field whatsoever but from the few blood clot cases that we’ve seen in the nba, most guys sit out the year and try again the next.
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Post#73 » by Neuromancer56 » Sat Mar 29, 2025 3:07 pm

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Neuromancer56 wrote:I refuse to give into the gloom and doom. I see Bobby, Dame, and hopefully Jericho coming back for the playoffs and us winning it all. I will let no negative thoughts in my mind.

I can see the bucks having a better playoff performance than expected, like beating the pacers in round one or something. I can’t see Dame coming back anytime soon though. Have no knowledge of the medical field whatsoever but from the few blood clot cases that we’ve seen in the nba, most guys sit out the year and try again the next.
I think it might matter where the blood clot is. Wemby had it in his shoulder which is really close to the brain, so that is far more dangerous than one in your leg. One of the initial findings I heard was that Dame was definitely out for the rest of the regular season but might come back for the playoffs.
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Post#74 » by BigO » Sat Mar 29, 2025 3:28 pm

Neuromancer56 wrote:I refuse to give into the gloom and doom. I see Bobby, Dame, and hopefully Jericho coming back for the playoffs and us winning it all. I will let no negative thoughts in my mind.


I have this great property in the swamplands of Florida (it's all a swampland as far as I'm concerned). Would you be interested?
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Post#75 » by Wonka » Sat Mar 29, 2025 3:32 pm

BigO wrote:
Neuromancer56 wrote:I refuse to give into the gloom and doom. I see Bobby, Dame, and hopefully Jericho coming back for the playoffs and us winning it all. I will let no negative thoughts in my mind.


I have this great property in the swamlands of Florida (it's all a swampland as faras I'm concerned). Would you be interested?


Can’t wait for Dame, Bobby, and Jericho to fix all the problems this team had even when they were all healthy/unsuspended.
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Post#76 » by BroncoBuck » Sat Mar 29, 2025 3:54 pm

BigO wrote:Just think of the unity on this board:

1) The vast majority want a new coach.

2) The vqast majority want a new GM

3) The vast majority think the roster is not championship caliber and the Kuzma trade was a bad one.

The problem lies in after you get rid of Doc and Horst, then what?

My suggestions:

1) I think OKC and Cleveland have done a great job drafting and trading. Get someone from that tree.

2) Coach- Look at Frank Vogel, Taylor Jenkins(need to get details of what happened),emphasize coaches who are willing to change and adapt


You realize Cleveland is just a bunch of Bud’s guys right? Even Ham’s kid is part of their staff. Taylor Jenkins is a Bud disciple as well.

It’s very funny that the “how do we fix this team” question keeps coming back to Giannis and the Bucks throwing Bud under the bus. Who could’ve seen that coming…
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Post#77 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Mar 29, 2025 3:57 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:Rollins is good. He's not much of a creator yet, but in today's game, you have to establish as a scorer first, before you can draw enough gravity to create for others. He's gotten to the rack easily the last 2 games.


Even with 4 turnovers last night, Rollins has just 5 turnovers to 18 assists over the last 5 games. Combine that with 40% 3 point shooting, plus his hawking defense, and its easy to see how the team was +24 with him on the floor over that span.
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Post#78 » by BigO » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:18 pm

BroncoBuck wrote:
BigO wrote:Just think of the unity on this board:

1) The vast majority want a new coach.

2) The vqast majority want a new GM

3) The vast majority think the roster is not championship caliber and the Kuzma trade was a bad one.

The problem lies in after you get rid of Doc and Horst, then what?

My suggestions:

1) I think OKC and Cleveland have done a great job drafting and trading. Get someone from that tree.

2) Coach- Look at Frank Vogel, Taylor Jenkins(need to get details of what happened),emphasize coaches who are willing to change and adapt


You realize Cleveland is just a bunch of Bud’s guys right? Even Ham’s kid is part of their staff. Taylor Jenkins is a Bud disciple as well.

It’s very funny that the “how do we fix this team” question keeps coming back to Giannis and the Bucks throwing Bud under the bus. Who could’ve seen that coming…


Bad (or is it Bud) takes never die. He took a plus 16 game Suns team and helped destroy it. Who could have seen that coming?
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Post#79 » by randy84 » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:18 pm

Neuromancer56 wrote:I refuse to give into the gloom and doom. I see Bobby, Dame, and hopefully Jericho coming back for the playoffs and us winning it all. I will let no negative thoughts in my mind.

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Post#80 » by Ron Swanson » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:46 pm

I’m already tapping out on this season, but to think that getting a healthy Dame and Bobby back, plus a good coach in place of Doc immediately turns this roster back into a 50+ win team isn’t some delusional optimist take.

Jenkins got that collection of meh talent in Memphis to be a Top-6 offense even with Ja being out half the year. Bring him and a new GM in with some roster tweaks and I’d easily bet on this team being a Top 2-3 seed next season.

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