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2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1721 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Mar 30, 2025 3:23 am

PushDaRock wrote:Think I'm switching my pick from Liam to Kon, but hopefully we can get another pick to draft both and pair with Gradey


Kon is a rich man’s Liam
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1722 » by NotMyKawhi » Sun Mar 30, 2025 3:24 am

Kon a better offensive player than Cooper
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1723 » by Bruin » Sun Mar 30, 2025 3:25 am

Maluach is gonna be out of our range now too. What a worthless run of games we won
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1724 » by Psubs » Sun Mar 30, 2025 3:25 am

MEDIC wrote:Kon is such a smart basketball player. Very impressive. He just does all the little thngs.

You notice him out there on and off the ball because he is always doing something valuable. Never relaxes.


All those moving screens, more like NFL pick plays!
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1725 » by Psubs » Sun Mar 30, 2025 3:30 am

Yallbecrazy wrote:Condon can totally be used as a high post facilitator in the NBA, unsure why Florida doesn't use him more in this way. Seems to make perfect passes to cutters while manipulating the d with his eyes and ball fakes.


They do use him as a screener, he's just not aggressive enough even with passes.

Tonight he looked like he had a mild sprain and didn't want to do too much. But he did sky for 2 late offensive rebounds. I think he could be had in the 20's now.

Clayton should be a late lottery pick even though he's a senior. Lillard was a young senior.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1726 » by MEDIC » Sun Mar 30, 2025 3:31 am

NotMyKawhi wrote:Kon a better offensive player than Cooper


For sure he is. He just doesn't have the length or athleticism. He is a superior baskball player (skill wise).

Kon seems like the type of guy that really gets the most out of what he has..

After the top 4, I rhink my favorite picks are Fears, Tre Jon, Kon & Mal.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1727 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Mar 30, 2025 3:37 am

Kon got screwed over the refs a couple times tonight and he also missed some easy layups which he usually makes.

Kid is real good. I started giving him props a couple months ago.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1728 » by Indeed » Sun Mar 30, 2025 4:02 am

MEDIC wrote:
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MEDIC wrote:With the 2nd round pick , I think the Raps should take the most elite defensive player available. Preferably a PG or C.

I really liked the way this team looked defensively with Davion Mitchell at PG. If they can find a Mitchell clone in the 2nd round (one with some shooting potential) & use him as 3rd PG/ 905 for development, I think it would help with depth over the long haul.

Big depth & PG depth are fhe biggest needs.


I still think we need better backup SF with the potential to be a starter.

If we need a good defensive PG, we trade Quickley or Barrett and sign & trade for Marcus Smart

I think eventually we need to deal our excessive SGs for better fit.


We have Ingram, Barnes, Mogbo........plus Barrett & Dick.

There is quite a bit of depth there.

One option would be to start training Walter as a 1/2 combo guard.He could play spot minutes at PG & be a really good POA defender for us.


We will still end up trading one of Quickley or Barrett, particularly, we are most likely above the tax.

Walter has been playing some PG, but his handle is still a year or two away (got a few times poked away when bringing up the ball), so I think it will take him few years to improve his handling, 3 point shooting, and PG play. We will need injury reserve anyway.

Barnes also got poked away a few times, he is not a PG, and unlikely he can be one. Furthermore, the reason we need a lock down defender like Mitchell or Smart, because our starting lineup needs one (or lack one).
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1729 » by DKB333 » Sun Mar 30, 2025 4:11 am

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djsunyc wrote:is kon a legit 6'7?

Kon is 6'7 the same way Scottie is 6'9 and Gradey is 6'8. Going to measure between 6'4 and 6'5 barefoot from what I can see.


he does look about 6'7 but his wingspan looks weak and his vertical too


I have heard him compared to Paul Pierce as a best case scenario.
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Post#1730 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Mar 30, 2025 4:18 am

MainEvent wrote:I want Maluach eating rebounds at 7'2 and w that length, looks like he was a weak base right now. when battling for positioning he gets pushed off balance easily and has 0 lift so guys he's jockeying with who are way smaller can high point the ball over his reach


Yep it might be uncorrectable, Maluach's center of gravity is messed up and it could just be because of his natural build.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1731 » by DreamTeam09 » Sun Mar 30, 2025 4:19 am

Barnes and Maluach PNR would be crazy
RJ and Maluach PNR would be crazy
BI Maluach PNR is an automatic jumper for BI & Mal is an excellent offensive rebounder
IQ and Maluach PNR and IQ is getting to that floater every time
Walter n Mal will form some good chemistry off the bench
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1732 » by Tha Cynic » Sun Mar 30, 2025 5:10 am

Kon has a ton of skill and feel for the game. I just don’t trust his size and athleticism. Things are going to be much harder for him in the NBA. I’m not sure that strength game will play either.

Maluach looks very raw and his feel for the game looks like it’s only in the early stages. It’s just hard to project him when he has so much to learn and understand.

I think I prefer the raw potential of Maluach. A guy like Kon - one of our current wings can probably be developed into a version of what he does in Walter or Dick. Maluach, if he puts it together can completely transform the team. I would probably risk him being a bust over missing out on Kon.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1733 » by Thaddy » Sun Mar 30, 2025 5:50 am

Maluach has high hips which will hurt him in the pick and roll. I would stay clear of him. He doesn't alter enough shots and Flagg, Kon and Duke make him look better than he is.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1734 » by KillaSham23 » Sun Mar 30, 2025 11:53 am

I agree Malauch isn't the guy.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1735 » by Tripod » Sun Mar 30, 2025 11:58 am

Man does Maluach ever had such extremes on opinions on him.

Lots saying he won't be available when we pick.
Lots saying don't pick him if he is as he will bust.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1736 » by OakleyDokely » Sun Mar 30, 2025 12:09 pm

Malachi has only been playing the game for 4-5 years. Most of his competition was dribbling a basketball at 2 or 3 years old. He's got a tremendous amount of poise and bball iq for someone with very little experience. A guy with his size and mobility who is already displaying shooting potential is extremely valuable.
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Post#1737 » by mtcan » Sun Mar 30, 2025 12:25 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Malachi has only been playing the game for 4-5 years. Most of his competition was dribbling a basketball at 2 or 3 years old. He's got a tremendous amount of poise and bball iq for someone with very little experience. A guy with his size and mobility who is already displaying shooting potential is extremely valuable.

He has that going for him. I also saw the shots he was making in the Olympics and he was hitting 3s and drilled a middy with Embiid in his face. Those plays are what I didn't see enough of at Duke and that might just be because Flagg's star is shining so brightly. If he really does have that shooting touch...he stock will rise. Dude held his own against Team USA in a limited stretch.

I just hope that whatever team takes him continues to work on his complete game instead of turning him into Rudy Gobert 2.0.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1738 » by Prestige » Sun Mar 30, 2025 1:41 pm

Maluach has high bust potential. I would be ok with taking him at 10-15, but not higher than that. There are a lot of players the same age as him who can play basketball right now and don’t need years to develop. Being behind developmentally isn’t a good thing.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1739 » by ArthurVandelay » Sun Mar 30, 2025 1:46 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Malachi has only been playing the game for 4-5 years. Most of his competition was dribbling a basketball at 2 or 3 years old. He's got a tremendous amount of poise and bball iq for someone with very little experience. A guy with his size and mobility who is already displaying shooting potential is extremely valuable.


His nickname should be Projection

Khaman “Projection” Maluach

No one would be drafting him on what he is today.

If he hits, he is going to be handful in 4 years.

(Btw, I know Projection is an awful nickname)
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4 

Post#1740 » by Stromile12 » Sun Mar 30, 2025 1:46 pm

I will be sad if we draft Kon

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