Don't be a Pelicant; Be a Pelican - Friday 5pm PDT

[cpower]

Podz Hield Butler Green Post is not a bad lineup vs bad defensive teams

you see the offense starts to flow when JK is out of the floor

[AirP.]

Butler's more locked in, he's been setting up defensively to get a steal and took a midrange jumper. Need that effort in both halves of a game.

[multo]

Gui with the extra effort to let that 4 point play happen

[floppymoose]

Clippers and Wolvees both won

[cpower]

JK is the only negative +/- with -5

Jimmy Looney strong finish. Jimmy +7, he was - 15 at one point and then never played with JK in the 2nd half. Curry was + 16, ended up with +10 after playing with JK... lol what a magnet

[statsman]

JK signing a big RFA offer during the offseason and the Warriors not matching (at best, a S&T) can't happen soon enough.

[vvoland]

JK is the only negative +/- with -5

Jimmy Looney strong finish. Jimmy +7, he was - 15 at one point and then never played with JK in the 2nd half. Curry was + 16, ended up with +10 after playing with JK... lol what a magnet

JK was the only positive in the first half, posting good box score stats while putting up a +5 while Jimmy was -15.

Rough second half for jk, especially after he banged his knee. It was clear he was playing well in the first and was terrible in the second. Weird people can't admit that

[AirP.]

Jimmy is struggling to score if he doesn’t get a foul. Seriously feels like we have 2 draymonds out there. Can’t shoot 3s, can’t finish in the paint, but they sure can pass.

He's really not trying to score. I've followed him his whole career, this one of those 2nd gear games which happened a lot against lesser competition the last few years in Miami.

It’s not just this game. His shooting has been horrid. The only thing saving his efficiency has been free throws.

Sure now, if you listen to the plus/minus podcast (today's), Marcus Thompson II was talking about how Butler hasn't been taking the midrange shots and he's generally not looking to score IN GAMES SO FAR, maybe it was either Tim Kawakami or Anthony Slater (not sure which one) mentioned going to practices and watching Butler after practices taking on teammates in one-on-one games and utilizing those "missing" parts from regular season games. I can't stress this enough; Butler's mindset is nothing I've ever seen in the NBA. Instead of a player who scores letting off the scoring to do other things, Butler is the exact opposite of wanting to do everything else and then up his scoring to show he can do that. Like I mentioned early on, I am highly interested how much of the scoring he can get to ~20 months after dropping 56 on the #1 seed as a play in team.

For instance, of Butler not trying to score and then scoring...
3 Jan 2016 - Chicago at Toronto
1st Half
Butler 1-4 for 2 pts, 2 reb, 1 ast, 2 TO (nearly played 15 minutes)
2nd Half
Butler
14-19 for 40 points, 2 reb, 4 ast, 1 TO (played all 24 minutes) <- this also broke MJ's record of points in a half which was 39.

And the game he put up 30 in the first half and then went back to his normal game proving to Miami media/fans he could score (2019) because he was playing how he is currently with Golden State. Each time he's changed teams; Butler's not tried to be a scorer for a while.

Take in consideration the 2020 bubble run to the finals where Butler put up two 35+ point triple doubles in the finals, up until the finals he wasn't Miami's leading scorer, Goran Dragic was and that's how Butler likes it, let others score while he does everything else and tries to enhance his teammates with his passing. There is another scoring gear for Butler to get to, I, just like most everyone else here am curious how good that next gear can be. From time to time, I see him get close to that gear for a few plays, but really not for long at all so far in his tenure with GS.

His mentality in most games seems to be the exact opposite of someone who can score, he wants his teammates to score more than himself.

Here's Jeff Teague on Draymond's podcast in the last year explaining how Butler expected the Minnesota team to play (Butler expected to average 18 and do the little things and let Towns and Wiggins handle the scoring) and then after a few games how Butler said nah... Towns and Wiggins aren't it and decided to take over (which led them to 3rd in the West before he tore his meniscus). Right now, it's Curry's team and Butler is 100% good with that, Butler not in a scoring mentality which means he thinks there's enough offense on the team but this does not excuse Butler for some of the games he isn't very active like he could be.

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And yes, I absolutely understand how frustrating it is to watch this, especially when GS loses, it's also what fascinates me about his game, he had/has (not sure which one yet) the ability to be the MVP mix every year if he went all out each season.

[Nvnervous45]

I think at age 35 butler knows how to preserve his body more, and he knows that his offensive game relies on drawing contact and that can lead to injuries. If he has to score, he will, otherwise he limits the contact in the offensive end.
Everybody knows if Jimmy goes down with an injury this time of year, we're sunk. I think it's more about knowing his injury history and avoiding a catastrophic injury.

[whatisacenter]

JK is the only negative +/- with -5

Jimmy Looney strong finish. Jimmy +7, he was - 15 at one point and then never played with JK in the 2nd half. Curry was + 16, ended up with +10 after playing with JK... lol what a magnet

JK was the only positive in the first half, posting good box score stats while putting up a +5 while Jimmy was -15.

Rough second half for jk, especially after he banged his knee. It was clear he was playing well in the first and was terrible in the second. Weird people can't admit that

Most fans here root for JK to fail it seems.

[cladden]

JK is the only negative +/- with -5

Jimmy Looney strong finish. Jimmy +7, he was - 15 at one point and then never played with JK in the 2nd half. Curry was + 16, ended up with +10 after playing with JK... lol what a magnet

JK was the only positive in the first half, posting good box score stats while putting up a +5 while Jimmy was -15.

Rough second half for jk, especially after he banged his knee. It was clear he was playing well in the first and was terrible in the second. Weird people can't admit that

Most fans here root for JK to fail it seems.

Exhausting. I don't understand why people are so invested in his failure.

[cpower]

JK is the only negative +/- with -5

Jimmy Looney strong finish. Jimmy +7, he was - 15 at one point and then never played with JK in the 2nd half. Curry was + 16, ended up with +10 after playing with JK... lol what a magnet

JK was the only positive in the first half, posting good box score stats while putting up a +5 while Jimmy was -15.

Rough second half for jk, especially after he banged his knee. It was clear he was playing well in the first and was terrible in the second. Weird people can't admit that

Curry was the most positive in the first half. what you said was clearly off.

[cpower]

JK was the only positive in the first half, posting good box score stats while putting up a +5 while Jimmy was -15.

Rough second half for jk, especially after he banged his knee. It was clear he was playing well in the first and was terrible in the second. Weird people can't admit that

Most fans here root for JK to fail it seems.

Exhausting. I don't understand why people are so invested in his failure.

nobody wants him to fail just like nobody wants Wiseman to fail. but at the end of the day is he the player that can help the team win? Not saying JK will be a bust like Wiseman but he is not trending in the right direction.

People just have to accept the fact that not everyone can be a star in this league, and that is ok. play him the way he deserves and trade him like anyone else.

[ILOVEIT]

If Kerr can't get the most out of Kuminga, HE'S the failure here, not Kuminga.

But I have faith. I think we'll see Kuminga dominating again as the season winds down.

[Jester_]

JK has the special ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and consistently end up near the bottom of plus/minus lol

it really is impressive

it's also impressive how many people will continue to defend a wannabe corey maggette

[billinder33]

JK reminds me of Kelly Oubre. You see the athleticism and possibilities and there appears to be something exceptional hidden within, if only it can be unlocked.

Shame all the games missed this year. Everyone would have a better sense of whether that thing will ever materialize. More will be learned by the end of the season, but at this point I'm leaning heavily that this a more tantalizing version of Oubre and whatever exceptional potential will never fully see the light of day.

[Chris Porter's Hair]

I'll be there tonight. Can only hope they put on a better show than they did for my Miami visit the other day /shudder

Damn this sounds like a fun way to live.

It has been a really amazing project. I was at Celtics/Spurs last night, so technically speaking I've now seen all 30 arenas. But going to Spurs/Warriors tonight to really finish it up the way I wanted.

[EvanZ]

Dang it's too bad Wemby is out.

[Jester_]

JK reminds me of Kelly Oubre. You see the athleticism and possibilities and there appears to be something exceptional hidden within, if only it can be unlocked.

Shame all the games missed this year. Everyone would have a better sense of whether that thing will ever materialize. More will be learned by the end of the season, but at this point I'm leaning heavily that this a more tantalizing version of Oubre and whatever exceptional potential will never fully see the light of day.

JK has the same issue all inefficient superathletes have had since the dawn of time

he's an idiot

it's only the ones with decent bbiq like kawhi and jaylen who turn it into something

[Chris Porter's Hair]

Dang it's too bad Wemby is out.

And Fox heh On the other hand, it definitely made tickets cheaper. They put up a good fight against Boston last night. They were trailing the whole way, but they at least hung in there and made a few runs (Castle, Vassell, Barnes, Keldon Johnson). Every time I watch Boston, I end up wondering why they aren't clearly the best team in the league.