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Post#1 » by Xman » Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:13 pm

So, what moves would you make if your lottery team got Flagg?


Just have a feeling that SA wins the lottery.
Follow up with two small additions.
Keldon and filler (prosper) for CamJ
Barnes for Gafford.
Send pick 16 and some seconds as needed.
Guards: Fox, Vassell, Castle, CP3
Wings: Flagg and CamJ with Sochan and Cha off the bench.
Wemby with Gafford as backup.

Maybe Houston if phx pick hits. So overloaded at that point. Would just need a high volume scorer. Preferably a star sg like Booker. But, lots of options from Trae, KD, Zion, Gianis, Ant, If any become available.
Picks, Jalen, Jabari, Reed, Whitmore would all be on the table.
Sengun, Amen, Flagg with Eason, Brooks, Vleet. Provides lots of flexibility.

Utah.
Honestly, I think getting Flagg would restrict moves. Flagg/Markky would be great forward tandem and Kessler is adequate inside. Veteran guards to keep prospects developing. Not going to get much for them and probably worth more developing prospects.
Except Collins who could go.

Washington.
Sarr, Flagg and bilal make a great core. Needs time though. So, nothing big.

Brooklyn.
CamJ, Flagg and Claxton provide a good base. Lots of possibilities.

Charlotte?

NO. Trade Zion?

ATL?
Philly. Too cap locked Ty make moves?
Same for Dallas?

Which moves can you see happening for teams that might get Flagg?
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Post#2 » by HartfordWhalers » Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:58 pm

Ickey shuffle.
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Post#3 » by jayjaysee » Mon Mar 31, 2025 5:03 pm

Dallas’ cap isn’t that bad thanks to a few cheap contracts you’re happy playing 20+ mpg (Lively, PJ, Christie, Naji, Gafford, Martin).. And once those contracts expire and Dallas doesn’t own any draft picks, you probably replace 1-2 of them with vet mins and pay the others.. Wouldn’t be tough to stay well under the second apron through the next contracts if the team doesn’t make a big move..

Really depends on how much you pay an injured Kyrie. Hopefully there’s a long term deal at a pretty flat number..

But they do own their own 2026 first, you could see them trade AD and do a one year tank like some fans want if they get Flagg? Lively/Flagg and AD’s trade return mixed with a high 2026 pick could be a good young core - and Kyrie can come back healthy after the season to help the kids get to the play-in after just one tank season..

I think if Dallas does move up in the lottery, there won’t be a fire sale though. And they’d likely keep any of the top prospects in this draft. Use the LAL pick and Gafford (or Naji or PJ) to get an upgrade at guard (not very difficult), who can play with Kyrie once he’s healthy.
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Post#4 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Mar 31, 2025 5:03 pm

Dallas also dances but we do the California Quake (shout out to all my old homies who get this reference).

Then hopefully they just draft and keep him. But some sort of trade for a "star" wing in his 30's would probably be the move....
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Post#5 » by jowglenn » Mon Mar 31, 2025 5:15 pm

Well if the Pacers get Flagg, it means they traded Haliburton for him (and probably their 1st and J. Walker) ... so I guess the move is just, uh, hope Nembhard can take on the primary PG duties
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Post#6 » by ChettheJet » Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:05 pm

OK let's give the Bulls even the same 1.7% odds they had when Derrick Rose fell into their lap and they get Flagg.

I don't know if their trade prospects change very much.
They still want to move Vucevic, they still have Giddey as a RFA and they have White, Dosunmu, Huerter and Carter as expiring guards that they have to trim down

Their lineup is fine at

Flagg Phillips
Buzelis Williams
Collins (maybe wants to return when his contract expires) Smith
Giddey signed as RFA Ball
White (plays out his contract maybe resigns) Huerter (wants to return when his contract expires)

possibly bringing back Tre Jones, THT, as pros on the bench and in the locker room

trading Vucevic, Carter, , Dosunmu

In a perfect world CLE wants to trade Jarrett Allen, a 3rd team has the role players and an extra pick to send to CLE, that 3rd team isn't a contender but wants the expiring contracts of Vucevic and either Dosunmu or Carter and the PORT pick so they can make a splash in 2026 free agency
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Post#7 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:07 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Dallas also dances but we do the California Quake (shout out to all my old homies who get this reference).

Then hopefully they just draft and keep him. But some sort of trade for a "star" wing in his 30's would probably be the move....


Cooper Flagg is going to be a positive impact player as a rookie. He can take on a smaller offensive role, be a +defender, make some open shots and be a connector.

No chance Dallas trades him for anyone other than Giannis.
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Post#8 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:07 pm

jowglenn wrote:Well if the Pacers get Flagg, it means they traded Haliburton for him (and probably their 1st and J. Walker) ... so I guess the move is just, uh, hope Nembhard can take on the primary PG duties


I thought the same :lol:
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Post#9 » by Godaddycurse » Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:30 pm

short term: RJ gets moved
long term: one of Barnes/Flagg gets moved
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Post#10 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:49 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:No chance Dallas trades him for anyone other than Giannis.


I mean you are almost certainly right. But do I wholly trust them after going all-in on an AD/Kyrie pairing in lieu of continuing to build around Luka? I don't. Because there is a ton of pressure on them in the city to prove they can win and win big and win now.
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Post#11 » by Xman » Mon Mar 31, 2025 7:16 pm

[quote="ChettheJet"]OK let's give the Bulls even the same 1.7% odds they had when Derrick Rose fell into their lap and they get Flagg.

I don't know if their trade prospects change very much.
They still want to move Vucevic, they still have Giddey as a RFA and they have White, Dosunmu, Huerter and Carter as expiring guards that they have to trim down

Their lineup is fine at

Flagg Phillips
Buzelis Williams
Collins (maybe wants to return when his contract expires) Smith
Giddey signed as RFA Ball
White (plays out his contract maybe resigns) Huerter (wants to return when his contract expires)

possibly bringing back Tre Jones, THT, as pros on the bench and in the locker room

trading Vucevic, Carter, , Dosunmu

In a perfect world CLE wants to trade Jarrett Allen, a 3rd team has the role players and an extra pick to send to CLE, that 3rd team isn't a contender but wants the expiring contracts of Vucevic and either Dosunmu or Carter and the PORT pick so they can make a splash in 2026 free agency[/quote]

Yeah, I wouldn’t expect much
Buzelis/Flagg as core going forward. So, need another tank year for third piece and tons of cap space after next year. Resign pieces as needed but don’t really see much value in anyone on team with exception of Buze and White.
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Post#12 » by Xman » Mon Mar 31, 2025 7:20 pm

[quote="ReggiesKnicks"][quote="Texas Chuck"]Dallas also dances but we do the California Quake (shout out to all my old homies who get this reference).

Then hopefully they just draft and keep him. But some sort of trade for a "star" wing in his 30's would probably be the move....[/quote]

Cooper Flagg is going to be a positive impact player as a rookie. He can take on a smaller offensive role, be a +defender, make some open shots and be a connector.

No chance Dallas trades him for anyone other than Giannis.[/quote]

Could you imagine being the GM that traded Luka and Flagg within six months. It would surpass Stepien. The new saying would be: “he got Nico’d” or “don’t Nico it”
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Post#13 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Mar 31, 2025 7:25 pm

Flagg isn't a Luka level prospect though. I know not everyone realized it at the time (he went 3rd and that team traded out after all), but lots of people did and were screaming at their top of their lungs about him.

Flagg is a nice prospect but of the sort that comes around almost every single year. Luka is more of a once in a decade type guy.

I don't think trading the rights to rookie Flagg is remotely the same thing.
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Post#14 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon Mar 31, 2025 7:37 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Flagg isn't a Luka level prospect though. I know not everyone realized it at the time (he went 3rd and that team traded out after all), but lots of people did and were screaming at their top of their lungs about him.

Flagg is a nice prospect but of the sort that comes around almost every single year. Luka is more of a once in a decade type guy.

I don't think trading the rights to rookie Flagg is remotely the same thing.


I have Flagg as a Luka-level prospect. Not everyone had Luka as a generational prospect, and not everyone views Flagg as a "Sort that comes around almost every single year".
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Post#15 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Mar 31, 2025 7:42 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:Flagg isn't a Luka level prospect though. I know not everyone realized it at the time (he went 3rd and that team traded out after all), but lots of people did and were screaming at their top of their lungs about him.

Flagg is a nice prospect but of the sort that comes around almost every single year. Luka is more of a once in a decade type guy.

I don't think trading the rights to rookie Flagg is remotely the same thing.


I have Flagg as a Luka-level prospect. Not everyone had Luka as a generational prospect, and not everyone views Flagg as a "Sort that comes around almost every single year".


I know not everyone did--I thought I was pretty clear on that? :D But a bunch of people more qualified to know(the guys more invested in the European basketball scene) were saying it so loudly and for years prior to him being draft eligible. I never get hyped about prospects because I don't personally follow college or international basketball closely enough and I know high school ratings are mostly pay for play and aren't worth much, but I was all in on Luka when Dallas picked 5 knowing we could never get him.

I may be too low on Flagg. Like I said, I'm no expert. But I've seen nobody talk about him in the kind of terms I heard people talk about Luka. Not since Lebron had I heard that kind of talk(even more than Anthony Davis another hugely hyped prospect).

But even if Flagg and Luka should be grouped together as prospects(I'll defer to others as I don't have the expertise), big difference about trading the maybe of Flagg and the just carried you to the Finals, playoff proven Luka Doncic just entering his prime.
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Post#16 » by tacos » Mon Mar 31, 2025 9:11 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:Flagg isn't a Luka level prospect though. I know not everyone realized it at the time (he went 3rd and that team traded out after all), but lots of people did and were screaming at their top of their lungs about him.

Flagg is a nice prospect but of the sort that comes around almost every single year. Luka is more of a once in a decade type guy.

I don't think trading the rights to rookie Flagg is remotely the same thing.


I have Flagg as a Luka-level prospect. Not everyone had Luka as a generational prospect, and not everyone views Flagg as a "Sort that comes around almost every single year".


I know not everyone did--I thought I was pretty clear on that? :D But a bunch of people more qualified to know(the guys more invested in the European basketball scene) were saying it so loudly and for years prior to him being draft eligible. I never get hyped about prospects because I don't personally follow college or international basketball closely enough and I know high school ratings are mostly pay for play and aren't worth much, but I was all in on Luka when Dallas picked 5 knowing we could never get him.

I may be too low on Flagg. Like I said, I'm no expert. But I've seen nobody talk about him in the kind of terms I heard people talk about Luka. Not since Lebron had I heard that kind of talk(even more than Anthony Davis another hugely hyped prospect).

But even if Flagg and Luka should be grouped together as prospects(I'll defer to others as I don't have the expertise), big difference about trading the maybe of Flagg and the just carried you to the Finals, playoff proven Luka Doncic just entering his prime.



Luca was too out of shape to be taken seriously as a potential star in the NBA...
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Post#17 » by jayjaysee » Mon Mar 31, 2025 9:38 pm

Unfortunately for Dallas, Phoenix is so far unable to keep what’s left of Dallas’ roster out of the playin some how.

Good for Houston. Bad for Dallas and Phoenix…

I’d like Flagg ending up in CLT. Ball, Miller, Flagg feels like a really good fitting trio and the team deserves it.
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Post#18 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon Mar 31, 2025 9:40 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
I have Flagg as a Luka-level prospect. Not everyone had Luka as a generational prospect, and not everyone views Flagg as a "Sort that comes around almost every single year".


I know not everyone did--I thought I was pretty clear on that? :D But a bunch of people more qualified to know(the guys more invested in the European basketball scene) were saying it so loudly and for years prior to him being draft eligible. I never get hyped about prospects because I don't personally follow college or international basketball closely enough and I know high school ratings are mostly pay for play and aren't worth much, but I was all in on Luka when Dallas picked 5 knowing we could never get him.

I may be too low on Flagg. Like I said, I'm no expert. But I've seen nobody talk about him in the kind of terms I heard people talk about Luka. Not since Lebron had I heard that kind of talk(even more than Anthony Davis another hugely hyped prospect).

But even if Flagg and Luka should be grouped together as prospects(I'll defer to others as I don't have the expertise), big difference about trading the maybe of Flagg and the just carried you to the Finals, playoff proven Luka Doncic just entering his prime.



Luca was too out of shape to be taken seriously as a potential star in the NBA...


Huh?

Luka was Mocked Top 1 for 50% of the time from January 2017 through June 2018. The lowest he was ever mocked was 4th. (Per Draft Express)

His overall rank was 98. (Per NBADraft.net)

Luka Doncic is a by all measures a prodigy … Europe has never seen anything like him … He has been playing at the highest level of European basketball since he was 16 years old and excelled … The way he handled this pressure the past few years has been amazing … He is a great scorer with an elite court vision, a Pick and Roll maestro who posseses rare versatility …


Doncic has the chance to be special, but even if he never blows up, no prospect in the draft has a higher floor.


His game will translate very well. The NBA is a fast-paced, pick-and-roll, three-point shooting league, and that suits Luka's style perfectly. He is a fantastic pick-and-roll player who is great at finding shooters at the three-point line and big men rolling to the rim. He can see over the top of defenses at 6-foot-8, and he's strong enough to throw passes that most perimeter players simply can't. Only elite-level guys like LeBron James, James Harden and Ben Simmons can make the type of passes that you'll see Luka make on a regular basis.


He was considered by many as the most accomplished teenage international prospect ever to make the leap to the NBA.

His advanced feel for the game and playmaking skills coupled with his size made him a clear candidate to engineer an offense in an evolving, perimeter-centric NBA.
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Post#19 » by Mr Swagtastic » Mon Mar 31, 2025 9:46 pm

If Toronto won the lotto how far off is Barnes + whatever is needed for Antetokounmpo?
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Post#20 » by tacos » Mon Mar 31, 2025 9:58 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
tacos wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
I know not everyone did--I thought I was pretty clear on that? :D But a bunch of people more qualified to know(the guys more invested in the European basketball scene) were saying it so loudly and for years prior to him being draft eligible. I never get hyped about prospects because I don't personally follow college or international basketball closely enough and I know high school ratings are mostly pay for play and aren't worth much, but I was all in on Luka when Dallas picked 5 knowing we could never get him.

I may be too low on Flagg. Like I said, I'm no expert. But I've seen nobody talk about him in the kind of terms I heard people talk about Luka. Not since Lebron had I heard that kind of talk(even more than Anthony Davis another hugely hyped prospect).

But even if Flagg and Luka should be grouped together as prospects(I'll defer to others as I don't have the expertise), big difference about trading the maybe of Flagg and the just carried you to the Finals, playoff proven Luka Doncic just entering his prime.



Luca was too out of shape to be taken seriously as a potential star in the NBA...


Huh?

Luka was Mocked Top 1 for 50% of the time from January 2017 through June 2018. The lowest he was ever mocked was 4th. (Per Draft Express)

His overall rank was 98. (Per NBADraft.net)

Luka Doncic is a by all measures a prodigy … Europe has never seen anything like him … He has been playing at the highest level of European basketball since he was 16 years old and excelled … The way he handled this pressure the past few years has been amazing … He is a great scorer with an elite court vision, a Pick and Roll maestro who posseses rare versatility …


Doncic has the chance to be special, but even if he never blows up, no prospect in the draft has a higher floor.


His game will translate very well. The NBA is a fast-paced, pick-and-roll, three-point shooting league, and that suits Luka's style perfectly. He is a fantastic pick-and-roll player who is great at finding shooters at the three-point line and big men rolling to the rim. He can see over the top of defenses at 6-foot-8, and he's strong enough to throw passes that most perimeter players simply can't. Only elite-level guys like LeBron James, James Harden and Ben Simmons can make the type of passes that you'll see Luka make on a regular basis.


He was considered by many as the most accomplished teenage international prospect ever to make the leap to the NBA.

His advanced feel for the game and playmaking skills coupled with his size made him a clear candidate to engineer an offense in an evolving, perimeter-centric NBA.


You can't take a Luca level Prospect when you have Surefire Superstars like Deandre Ayton and Marvin Bagley on the board

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