2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4
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Masai & co. might honestly view a player that is projected to go 10-15, as a top talent in this draft. Hence, why they're comfortable winning games (is my assumption, I don't know if they actually are).
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Psubs wrote:Dalek wrote:Psubs wrote:
I think Queen needs to be paired up with Walker Kessler, Gobert, Sarr, Giannis, Embiid, Lively, Jokic, Clingan or Edey. I guess I wouldn't want him to be my starting C. Would be nice if the C can shoot the 3 and would run PnR up top and have Queen getting offensive boards.
To me, the ideal would be the Spurs and putting being beside Wemby. Queen and Wemby would be a very fun and crafty frontcourt because they compliment each other well.
Spurs should trade for Poeltl back.
I dont see Spurs GM and headcoach think Wemby should play with another big (unless elite shooting).
I usually see teams go small, hardly see teams go big.
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LoveMyRaps wrote:Masai & co. might honestly view a player that is projected to go 10-15, as a top talent in this draft. Hence, why they're comfortable winning games (is my assumption, I don't know if they actually are).
they've often just missed targets because we've picked a little late tho. I could see a scenario where they really want edgecombe or queen/maluach and they are gone right before we pick. This org knows talent, we should be making sure they are able to grab the talent they want.
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LoveMyRaps wrote:Masai & co. might honestly view a player that is projected to go 10-15, as a top talent in this draft. Hence, why they're comfortable winning games (is my assumption, I don't know if they actually are).
We can only hope that is the case. Just like when they identified SGA who was slated 10-15
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We're losing games due to mismanagement and a lack of top-down communication. We've seen poor half measures compared to the Sixers, Nets, Jazz, Pels, and pretty much any other team. It's a big time concern for the Raptors. From SGA, Coulibaly, Edey, Ware, etc we've been off by 1-2 picks in our modern history.
I'm comfortable at 7th, but if we get 8th and drop down to the 10th or 11th pick we're in the danger zone of not getting a core piece. We need creation, scoring, handles, and size. Another role player isn't doing anything for us in the future. We need to add to our logjam of youth at the 2/3 and eventually make a consolidation trade (RJ + IQ). Then we can get meaningful experience for our prospects and develop them past their perceived ceiling.
Poeltl / (Agbaji Trade)
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Battle
Walter / Dick
(IQ + RJ) / Shead / Fears
I'm comfortable at 7th, but if we get 8th and drop down to the 10th or 11th pick we're in the danger zone of not getting a core piece. We need creation, scoring, handles, and size. Another role player isn't doing anything for us in the future. We need to add to our logjam of youth at the 2/3 and eventually make a consolidation trade (RJ + IQ). Then we can get meaningful experience for our prospects and develop them past their perceived ceiling.
Poeltl / (Agbaji Trade)
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Battle
Walter / Dick
(IQ + RJ) / Shead / Fears
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I prefer not getting a project tbh unless Masai feels it's another Giannis, Shai etc.
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Dalek wrote:Psubs wrote:Dalek wrote:I kind of wonder if you gamble on this type of big, hasn't Johni Broome shown enough defense, scoring and playmaking in a similar way and would be available much later with less need to focus on him?
I just think with Queen you have to build around his skillset if you go high lotto given his skill-set and I am not sure if that is compatible with Scottie. A player like Broome would be a role-player that would like outplay his draft slot and can for sure bring you defense.
I think Queen needs to be paired up with Walker Kessler, Gobert, Sarr, Giannis, Embiid, Lively, Jokic, Clingan or Edey. I guess I wouldn't want him to be my starting C. Would be nice if the C can shoot the 3 and would run PnR up top and have Queen getting offensive boards.
To me, the ideal would be the Spurs and putting being beside Wemby. Queen and Wemby would be a very fun and crafty frontcourt because they compliment each other well.
It's cool that they're nice to each other, but I don't see how that helps the Spurs win games.
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Dalek wrote:Otega Oweh could be that next special Kentucky guard to hit the NBA. In the NCAA tournament he looked like their best player.
Some Oweh stats:
6'4" size
6'10" wingspan
210 lbs
2.2 STL%
0.7 blk% (19 blocks on the year)
13.6 Def Reb%
46.3 FTR
47 dunks
61% at the rim%
27-76 on 3s (36%)
Is this guy the next Lu Dort or is there more offense in him? He dunks like a forward and can get hot from outside. I think there is an NBA player who could go undrafted.
I think the Kentucky guard thing was really a coach Calipari thing where he recruited high schoolers really well and identified guard talent especially well, but made them look relatively poor because he was a bad in game coach.
Now you'd want to look at Arkansas guards going forward.
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I think Jak can at least be as good as Podz but just taller and a better passer. I think thats a good player
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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:I think Jak can at least be as good as Podz but just taller and a better passer. I think thats a good player


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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:UnbelievablyRAW wrote:I think Jak can at least be as good as Podz but just taller and a better passer. I think thats a good player
Not sure what to take from this but KJ is also a BPM darling and seems to be a good rebounder for his position (not as good as Podz). I think he'll be a great 6th man for a team if he's in that role but as a starter he might look washed against starter level guards
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Indeed wrote:Psubs wrote:Dalek wrote:
To me, the ideal would be the Spurs and putting being beside Wemby. Queen and Wemby would be a very fun and crafty frontcourt because they compliment each other well.
Spurs should trade for Poeltl back.
I dont see Spurs GM and headcoach think Wemby should play with another big (unless elite shooting).
I usually see teams go small, hardly see teams go big.
OKC went out and signed Hartenstein and 7'1 Chet is playing PF.

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This draft class will have some All stars in it.....Sad we won't be getting a top pick in this one.

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Psubs wrote:Indeed wrote:Psubs wrote:
Spurs should trade for Poeltl back.
I dont see Spurs GM and headcoach think Wemby should play with another big (unless elite shooting).
I usually see teams go small, hardly see teams go big.
OKC went out and signed Hartenstein and 7'1 Chet is playing PF.
Cavs have Mobley & Allen, KAT & Gobert really changed the dynamics for the TWolves.
Although I will say that I think the Spurs are more likely to select someone like Kon, personally I don't fully rule out that they might at least consider Maluach to create a similar dynamic and potentially the bigger & best version of it. They could put an absolute lid on the rim from the mid-range inward and then all guys have to do is run their man off the 3pt line, that has potential to one of, if not the best defence in the league. Again I do think they'll favor Kon's shooting buuut he is likely only 6'5+ and with 2 guards both at 6'4, sure Vic will compensate for a lot of that but I don't think you want to exhaust Vic with him having to handle almost everything defensively. Also like Chet, Mobley, AD etc...the tendency is to want a bigger body to deal with the punishment/banging (pause) in post for rebounds etc. That really wears guys down and of course the Spurs' entire future is dependent on Wemby's sustained health. And I said it before Maluach could be a workout king where he wows teams with some flashes of shooting and footwork he wasn't able to use at Duke, while I think there's a good chance he'll still be on the board when we pick, I don't think it's a certainty like some do.
As to the Spurs trading for Yak, what would you expect them to trade for him?! It won't be the 7th pick, I doubt Vassell and he'd be SG #8 on the roster lol, Keldon Johnson is kinda meh for me...I'm not sure what the move would be there.
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PhilBlackson wrote:Psubs wrote:Indeed wrote:
I dont see Spurs GM and headcoach think Wemby should play with another big (unless elite shooting).
I usually see teams go small, hardly see teams go big.
OKC went out and signed Hartenstein and 7'1 Chet is playing PF.
Cavs have Mobley & Allen, KAT & Gobert really changed the dynamics for the TWolves.
Although I will say that I think the Spurs are more likely to select someone like Kon, personally I don't fully rule out that they might at least consider Maluach to create a similar dynamic and potentially the bigger & best version of it. They could put an absolute lid on the rim from the mid-range inward and then all guys have to do is run their man off the 3pt line, that has potential to one of, if not the best defence in the league. Again I do think they'll favor Kon's shooting buuut he is likely only 6'5+ and with 2 guards both at 6'4, sure Vic will compensate for a lot of that but I don't think you want to exhaust Vic with him having to handle almost everything defensively. Also like Chet, Mobley, AD etc...the tendency is to want a bigger body to deal with the punishment/banging (pause) in post for rebounds etc. That really wears guys down and of course the Spurs' entire future is dependent on Wemby's sustained health. And I said it before Maluach could be a workout king where he wows teams with some flashes of shooting and footwork he wasn't able to use at Duke, while I think there's a good chance he'll still be on the board when we pick, I don't think it's a certainty like some do.
As to the Spurs trading for Yak, what would you expect them to trade for him?! It won't be the 7th pick, I doubt Vassell and he'd be SG #8 on the roster lol, Keldon Johnson is kinda meh for me...I'm not sure what the move would be there.
Poeltl, Agbaji and 2026 2nd pick for Keldon Johnson, Blake Wesley, 2025 1st pick (Atl) and a 2026 1st pick
Maybe expand the trade sending KJ, BW and 2025 1st pick along with RJ Barrett to Phoenix for Kevin Durant.

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This draft class will have some All stars in it.....Sad we won't be getting a top pick in this one.
Besides the obvious guys, Tounde Yessoufou looks good!
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This draft class will have some All stars in it.....Sad we won't be getting a top pick in this one.
DP and AJ are both generational talents.
They're both better prospects than Flagg.
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PhilBlackson wrote:Psubs wrote:Indeed wrote:
I dont see Spurs GM and headcoach think Wemby should play with another big (unless elite shooting).
I usually see teams go small, hardly see teams go big.
OKC went out and signed Hartenstein and 7'1 Chet is playing PF.
Cavs have Mobley & Allen, KAT & Gobert really changed the dynamics for the TWolves.
Although I will say that I think the Spurs are more likely to select someone like Kon, personally I don't fully rule out that they might at least consider Maluach to create a similar dynamic and potentially the bigger & best version of it. They could put an absolute lid on the rim from the mid-range inward and then all guys have to do is run their man off the 3pt line, that has potential to one of, if not the best defence in the league. Again I do think they'll favor Kon's shooting buuut he is likely only 6'5+ and with 2 guards both at 6'4, sure Vic will compensate for a lot of that but I don't think you want to exhaust Vic with him having to handle almost everything defensively. Also like Chet, Mobley, AD etc...the tendency is to want a bigger body to deal with the punishment/banging (pause) in post for rebounds etc. That really wears guys down and of course the Spurs' entire future is dependent on Wemby's sustained health. And I said it before Maluach could be a workout king where he wows teams with some flashes of shooting and footwork he wasn't able to use at Duke, while I think there's a good chance he'll still be on the board when we pick, I don't think it's a certainty like some do.
As to the Spurs trading for Yak, what would you expect them to trade for him?! It won't be the 7th pick, I doubt Vassell and he'd be SG #8 on the roster lol, Keldon Johnson is kinda meh for me...I'm not sure what the move would be there.
Financially they cannot sustain in the long term, which is the reason they break off between KAT and Gobert.
The Spurs would get better value with a good shooter at forward spot, ideally having good defense as well.
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:
This draft class will have some All stars in it.....Sad we won't be getting a top pick in this one.
Besides the obvious guys, Tounde Yessoufou looks good!
He caught my eye as well .....Looks like an Anthony Edwards type
