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[Jalen Bluntson]

No team that has a core of Brunson, KAT, OG and Bridges should be getting blown out by anyone.

Two of those four play poor defence. One of those four plays slow while the other 3 play fast. All four want/need 15+ shots.

It's the mentality that is a problem. Bridges doesn't really love being a third option. Neither does OG.

The names sound good but there are holes in the seams.

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What? The holes are in the coaching. Insinuating that Bridges/OG play poorly because of mentality is ridiculous. Maybe if the HC would get EVERYONE involved on offense we wouldn't be getting blown out all of the time. Maybe if he utilized the talent he has on the bench, players wouldn't be burned out or dealing with nagging overuse injuries by the time January rolls around. We should have been playing Brunson off ball a lot sooner than waiting for him to be out with an injury. Thibs doesn't try anything other than ISO Brunson running the show. Everyone else standing in the corner waiting to see what happens next. That's not an offensive system. It's not the best use of your roster at all. We are seeing the proof unfold in real time

. Let other guys handle the ball where they are comfortable. Players like Shamet are best getting the ball in motion for catch and shoot. Thibs usually has him standing in a corner. OG has to defend the entire team and then he gets to stand in the corner on offense. Mikal has to chase guys around fighting through screens on defense for 40 minutes a night and he gets to stand in the corner on offense. KAT should be shooting way more threes. He is driving from the perimeter and getting hacked and whacked all the way to the basket with no calls. Brunson is fighting longer defenders full court to get the ball over the line. We don't even set back screens for him! Just leave him on an island.

There is no design to our offense. Let the game tell you what to do? No. Impose your will. Make the opponent play your game. Make them expend energy on defense so they have tired legs on offense. You know, like every other team does to us because they already know we will be tired from playing too many minutes as it is.

The crazy excuses for why we suddenly see better play after 60+ games due to injuries really tells the whole story. Thibs has zero business running an offense. His antiquated defense only works with the a top rim protector in the league. Without that he has no answers for anything. His positives as a HC are minimal.

[3toheadmelo]

We may lose, but there’s too many adjustments that Tom hasn’t attempted that another coach could at least try that may make it much more competitive.

But again, not saying you play Kolek “over” Cam or Deuce, I’m saying when injuries occur, instead of Tom shortening the rotation like he does, he should be giving Kolek and Huk some minutes.

Brunson out? Play Kolek. Cam out? Play Kolek. Deuce out? Play Kolek. Shamet out? Play Kolek. Hart out? Start Deuce, play Kolek. Mitch out? Play Huk not Sims. Precious out? Play Huk. KAT out? Play Huk. See what I mean?

Instead the adjustment Tom makes is just playing 7-8 guys. Like last playoffs when he played a 6 man rotation before giving Burks a shot.

If you’re saying we’re still going to lose to those teams then what’s the point? An L is an L no matter how much we lose by. Which goes back to my point, you need to fix the roster no matter who the coach is.


You’re basically arguing for Thibs to play unknowns like Kolek and Huk over proven vets. They not even good like that lol. And even if he made those adjustments it won’t change anything. We have a very bad bench.

I’m not saying we’re going to lose to those teams, I said we “may” lose, but you have to try to change your strategy to see if you can win.

I know you hate KAT and the Mikal trade, but I dunno how you can defend Thibs and act like there’s nothing he can do until the roster is completely overhauled or say no other coach can do better with the roster… I feel like that part is something you refuse to even remotely consider because you hate KAT and Mikal so much.

And no I’m not arguing to play the rookies over vets? I’m saying to play them instead of playing the starters 40+ minutes. Wouldn’t it be wise to be cautious after last year’s playoffs? Top coaches do this and succeed more often than you think, Spo, Kerr, Dag, Malone, Kenny, etc.. these guys play rookies all the time and still win.

Kolek and Huk seemed good enough to me from day 1 to help keep the starters fresh for the playoffs. I’m not saying these guys are All-Stars in the making bro

I’m not defending Thibs tho. I don’t mind firing him for an upgrade. I just think no matter who the coach is you’re ending up with the same result which is not winning a championship. The adjustments you’re talking about is getting us a few extra wins at most but still isn’t good enough to make us a contender.

I agree Thibs overplays his guys sometimes but it’s also not like we have very good players on the bench who Thibs isn’t utilizing.

[Iron Mantis]

No team that has a core of Brunson, KAT, OG and Bridges should be getting blown out by anyone.

Two of those four play poor defence. One of those four plays slow while the other 3 play fast. All four want/need 15+ shots.

It's the mentality that is a problem. Bridges doesn't really love being a third option. Neither does OG.

The names sound good but there are holes in the seams.

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What? The holes are in the coaching. Insinuating that Bridges/OG play poorly because of mentality is ridiculous. Maybe if the HC would get EVERYONE involved on offense we wouldn't be getting blown out all of the time. Maybe if he utilized the talent he has on the bench, players wouldn't be burned out or dealing with nagging overuse injuries by the time January rolls around. We should have been playing Brunson off ball a lot sooner than waiting for him to be out with an injury. Thibs doesn't try anything other than ISO Brunson running the show. Everyone else standing in the corner waiting to see what happens next. That's not an offensive system. It's not the best use of your roster at all. We are seeing the proof unfold in real time

. Let other guys handle the ball where they are comfortable. Players like Shamet are best getting the ball in motion for catch and shoot. Thibs usually has him standing in a corner. OG has to defend the entire team and then he gets to stand in the corner on offense. Mikal has to chase guys around fighting through screens on defense for 40 minutes a night and he gets to stand in the corner on offense. KAT should be shooting way more threes. He is driving from the perimeter and getting hacked and whacked all the way to the basket with no calls. Brunson is fighting longer defenders full court to get the ball over the line. We don't even set back screens for him! Just leave him on an island.

There is no design to our offense. Let the game tell you what to do? No. Impose your will. Make the opponent play your game. Make them expend energy on defense so they have tired legs on offense. You know, like every other team does to us because they already know we will be tired from playing too many minutes as it is.

The crazy excuses for why we suddenly see better play after 60+ games due to injuries really tells the whole story. Thibs has zero business running an offense. His antiquated defense only works with the a top rim protector in the league. Without that he has no answers for anything. His positives as a HC are minimal.

[spree8]

If you’re saying we’re still going to lose to those teams then what’s the point? An L is an L no matter how much we lose by. Which goes back to my point, you need to fix the roster no matter who the coach is.


You’re basically arguing for Thibs to play unknowns like Kolek and Huk over proven vets. They not even good like that lol. And even if he made those adjustments it won’t change anything. We have a very bad bench.

I’m not saying we’re going to lose to those teams, I said we “may” lose, but you have to try to change your strategy to see if you can win.

I know you hate KAT and the Mikal trade, but I dunno how you can defend Thibs and act like there’s nothing he can do until the roster is completely overhauled or say no other coach can do better with the roster… I feel like that part is something you refuse to even remotely consider because you hate KAT and Mikal so much.

And no I’m not arguing to play the rookies over vets? I’m saying to play them instead of playing the starters 40+ minutes. Wouldn’t it be wise to be cautious after last year’s playoffs? Top coaches do this and succeed more often than you think, Spo, Kerr, Dag, Malone, Kenny, etc.. these guys play rookies all the time and still win.

Kolek and Huk seemed good enough to me from day 1 to help keep the starters fresh for the playoffs. I’m not saying these guys are All-Stars in the making bro

I’m not defending Thibs tho. I don’t mind firing him for an upgrade. I just think no matter who the coach is you’re ending up with the same result which is not winning a championship. The adjustments you’re talking about is getting us a few extra wins at most but still isn’t good enough to make us a contender.

I agree Thibs overplays his guys sometimes but it’s also not like we have very good players on the bench who Thibs isn’t utilizing.

It’s not so much about having very good players he’s not utilizing as much as it is simply just playing them to give the starters a break. That’s really the root of why people complain about it. People are saying these guys can play in the league at least and give you the chance to rest the starters without blowing a lead or putting the game at a major risk of getting out of hand. That’s really all. And if they prove to be better than we thought, it’s only a plus because maybe we kill two birds with one stone and up their trade value.

As for all the other adjustments or experimenting with the offense, defense, rotations, etc, it’s not so much about getting extra wins, it’s about seeing what we really got here playing at its best so we can make the best decisions in the summer to improve it.

Making a bunch of changes one summer and then wasting the season because the coach didn’t use them correctly, kinda puts you back to square one the following summer… like damn, what do we really have here and where do we really need to improve or what would help these guys even more?

[Gravy]

Shamet turned into Steve Novak all of a sudden. Let's see if he can keep this up in the playoffs or at least tonight against the Cavs. He was definitely terrible and a liability earlier in the season.

[3toheadmelo]

Yep. 100% do. Atkinson especially would have this group at plus 50 wins. How Tom approaches offense and defense holds this team back.

I'm not knocking Cam Payne at all though. I've never had an issue with Cam tbh, he competes hard. But we've heard all season that Tom doesn't have anyone else on the bench that can play when it wasn't true, he just wasn't utilizing anyone

Yeah gonna have to agree to disagree. No coach is going to fix KAT’s defense unless we gave up a haul for a DPOY like Gobert. No coach is gonna fix Brunson being to small on defense. Mikal hasn’t played elite defense in years. Hart is scared to shoot 3s which is why he has been bouncing from team to team in his career. These issues with these players have been going on since before Thibs coached them.

Who was Thibs not utilizing?

About the only thing I’d concede is he probably could have played the bench another 5mpg each. But I don’t think that results in extra wins. In fact given the razor thin margin for error and so many close and OT games I say we have an even worse record.

Shamet is playing more now but at the end of the day I still think he sucks, and was injured for months. last nights performance against g leaguers nonwithstanding. Anything at the guard spot would have involved Brunson playing less so…. More losses. Same with benching towns (team high +349 plus minus) for more minutes to the likes of Jericho sims or Hukporti

So yeah I don’t see these extra wins manifesting

And if I’m a betting man, by the end of these next 7 games we roll into the playoffs at 100% strength

Yea these adjustments that people are complaining about really isn’t changing much.

[3toheadmelo]

I’m not saying we’re going to lose to those teams, I said we “may” lose, but you have to try to change your strategy to see if you can win.

I know you hate KAT and the Mikal trade, but I dunno how you can defend Thibs and act like there’s nothing he can do until the roster is completely overhauled or say no other coach can do better with the roster… I feel like that part is something you refuse to even remotely consider because you hate KAT and Mikal so much.

And no I’m not arguing to play the rookies over vets? I’m saying to play them instead of playing the starters 40+ minutes. Wouldn’t it be wise to be cautious after last year’s playoffs? Top coaches do this and succeed more often than you think, Spo, Kerr, Dag, Malone, Kenny, etc.. these guys play rookies all the time and still win.

Kolek and Huk seemed good enough to me from day 1 to help keep the starters fresh for the playoffs. I’m not saying these guys are All-Stars in the making bro

I’m not defending Thibs tho. I don’t mind firing him for an upgrade. I just think no matter who the coach is you’re ending up with the same result which is not winning a championship. The adjustments you’re talking about is getting us a few extra wins at most but still isn’t good enough to make us a contender.

I agree Thibs overplays his guys sometimes but it’s also not like we have very good players on the bench who Thibs isn’t utilizing.

It’s not so much about having very good players he’s not utilizing as much as it is simply just playing them to give the starters a break. That’s really the root of why people complain about it. People are saying these guys can play in the league at least and give you the chance to rest the starters without blowing a lead or putting the game at a major risk of getting out of hand. That’s really all. And if they prove to be better than we thought, it’s only a plus because maybe we kill two birds with one stone and up their trade value.

As for all the other adjustments or experimenting with the offense, defense, rotations, etc, it’s not so much about getting extra wins, it’s about seeing what we really got here playing at its best so we can make the best decisions in the summer to improve it.

Making a bunch of changes one summer and then wasting the season because the coach didn’t use them correctly, kinda puts you back to square one the following summer… like damn, what do we really have here and where do we really need to improve or what would help these guys even more?

The issues with our players have been going on since before Thibs has even coached them as I said in another post though. Blaming Thibs for that doesn’t really make much sense.

And again I agree Thibs overplays his guys sometimes and could get more creative with his offense. But ultimately I care about the wins. I don’t really see anything changing even with the adjustments you want him to do. Those are just very minor adjustments at the end of the day. At the end of the day he got KAT to be an all star starter for the first time… hart and OG are having career seasons. Hes done a lot to get guys to play better.

[3toheadmelo]

Shamet turned into Steve Novak all of a sudden. Let's see if he can keep this up in the playoffs or at least tonight against the Cavs. He was definitely terrible and a liability earlier in the season.

Our players look amazing against the worst teams. So people are using that as a way to say Thibs has been holding them back. Yet those very same players disappear against the contenders.

[prophet_of_rage]

No team that has a core of Brunson, KAT, OG and Bridges should be getting blown out by anyone.

Two of those four play poor defence. One of those four plays slow while the other 3 play fast. All four want/need 15+ shots.

It's the mentality that is a problem. Bridges doesn't really love being a third option. Neither does OG.

The names sound good but there are holes in the seams.

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What? The holes are in the coaching. Insinuating that Bridges/OG play poorly because of mentality is ridiculous. Maybe if the HC would get EVERYONE involved on offense we wouldn't be getting blown out all of the time. Maybe if he utilized the talent he has on the bench, players wouldn't be burned out or dealing with nagging overuse injuries by the time January rolls around. We should have been playing Brunson off ball a lot sooner than waiting for him to be out with an injury. Thibs doesn't try anything other than ISO Brunson running the show. Everyone else standing in the corner waiting to see what happens next. That's not an offensive system. It's not the best use of your roster at all. We are seeing the proof unfold in real time

. Let other guys handle the ball where they are comfortable. Players like Shamet are best getting the ball in motion for catch and shoot. Thibs usually has him standing in a corner. OG has to defend the entire team and then he gets to stand in the corner on offense. Mikal has to chase guys around fighting through screens on defense for 40 minutes a night and he gets to stand in the corner on offense. KAT should be shooting way more threes. He is driving from the perimeter and getting hacked and whacked all the way to the basket with no calls. Brunson is fighting longer defenders full court to get the ball over the line. We don't even set back screens for him! Just leave him on an island.

There is no design to our offense. Let the game tell you what to do? No. Impose your will. Make the opponent play your game. Make them expend energy on defense so they have tired legs on offense. You know, like every other team does to us because they already know we will be tired from playing too many minutes as it is.

The crazy excuses for why we suddenly see better play after 60+ games due to injuries really tells the whole story. Thibs has zero business running an offense. His antiquated defense only works with the a top rim protector in the league. Without that he has no answers for anything. His positives as a HC are minimal.

I said Mikal/OG don't have the mentality of third options. They don't. They want more touches not fewer. Do you disagree with that?

You can say it's on Thibs to weave it all together and I can agree with that but it is clear the four are not a natural seamless fit. You saying the hole is in the coaching still acknowledges the holes exist.

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[robillionaire]

Yeah gonna have to agree to disagree. No coach is going to fix KAT’s defense unless we gave up a haul for a DPOY like Gobert. No coach is gonna fix Brunson being to small on defense. Mikal hasn’t played elite defense in years. Hart is scared to shoot 3s which is why he has been bouncing from team to team in his career. These issues with these players have been going on since before Thibs coached them.

Who was Thibs not utilizing?

About the only thing I’d concede is he probably could have played the bench another 5mpg each. But I don’t think that results in extra wins. In fact given the razor thin margin for error and so many close and OT games I say we have an even worse record.

Shamet is playing more now but at the end of the day I still think he sucks, and was injured for months. last nights performance against g leaguers nonwithstanding. Anything at the guard spot would have involved Brunson playing less so…. More losses. Same with benching towns (team high +349 plus minus) for more minutes to the likes of Jericho sims or Hukporti

So yeah I don’t see these extra wins manifesting

And if I’m a betting man, by the end of these next 7 games we roll into the playoffs at 100% strength

Yea these adjustments that people are complaining about really isn’t changing much.

Which is fine because we’re going to be a 50+ win 3 seed and have the same crack at winning in the playoffs as any other team would whether they had more regular season wins or not. So let’s see what happens in the playoffs. Brunson and Towns have at least both been in conference finals and Mikal to the nba finals, maybe the fit of the team does eventually get exposed and we’ll see on that but they aren’t all just incapable of winning a playoff game or anything. Even the fit could theoretically be helped with staggering or playing 2 bigs for stretches at a time. Maybe a different coach does something different to mitigate the weaknesses, who knows

But you did identify correctly that the bench sucks so fixing that could even be a world of difference regardless of coach so there is actually upside to just tweaking the roster as far as I’m concerned. Will be hard with no assets but yeah. Come on down ring chasers

[3toheadmelo]

About the only thing I’d concede is he probably could have played the bench another 5mpg each. But I don’t think that results in extra wins. In fact given the razor thin margin for error and so many close and OT games I say we have an even worse record.

Shamet is playing more now but at the end of the day I still think he sucks, and was injured for months. last nights performance against g leaguers nonwithstanding. Anything at the guard spot would have involved Brunson playing less so…. More losses. Same with benching towns (team high +349 plus minus) for more minutes to the likes of Jericho sims or Hukporti

So yeah I don’t see these extra wins manifesting

And if I’m a betting man, by the end of these next 7 games we roll into the playoffs at 100% strength

Yea these adjustments that people are complaining about really isn’t changing much.

Which is fine because we’re going to be a 50+ win 3 seed and have the same crack at winning in the playoffs as any other team would whether they had more regular season wins or not. So let’s see what happens in the playoffs. Brunson and Towns have at least both been in conference finals and Mikal to the nba finals, maybe the fit of the team does eventually get exposed and we’ll see on that but they aren’t all just incapable of winning a playoff game or anything. Even the fit could theoretically be helped with staggering or playing 2 bigs for stretches at a time. Maybe a different coach does something different to mitigate the weaknesses, who knows

But you did identify correctly that the bench sucks so fixing that could even be a world of difference regardless of coach so there is actually upside to just tweaking the roster as far as I’m concerned. Will be hard with no assets but yeah. Come on down ring chasers

We’ll see in the playoffs if anything changes but based on what I seen from this team we are a second round exit at best

[spree8]

I’m not defending Thibs tho. I don’t mind firing him for an upgrade. I just think no matter who the coach is you’re ending up with the same result which is not winning a championship. The adjustments you’re talking about is getting us a few extra wins at most but still isn’t good enough to make us a contender.

I agree Thibs overplays his guys sometimes but it’s also not like we have very good players on the bench who Thibs isn’t utilizing.

It’s not so much about having very good players he’s not utilizing as much as it is simply just playing them to give the starters a break. That’s really the root of why people complain about it. People are saying these guys can play in the league at least and give you the chance to rest the starters without blowing a lead or putting the game at a major risk of getting out of hand. That’s really all. And if they prove to be better than we thought, it’s only a plus because maybe we kill two birds with one stone and up their trade value.

As for all the other adjustments or experimenting with the offense, defense, rotations, etc, it’s not so much about getting extra wins, it’s about seeing what we really got here playing at its best so we can make the best decisions in the summer to improve it.

Making a bunch of changes one summer and then wasting the season because the coach didn’t use them correctly, kinda puts you back to square one the following summer… like damn, what do we really have here and where do we really need to improve or what would help these guys even more?

The issues with our players have been going on since before Thibs has even coached them as I said in another post though. Blaming Thibs for that doesn’t really make much sense.

And again I agree Thibs overplays his guys sometimes and could get more creative with his offense. But ultimately I care about the wins. I don’t really see anything changing even with the adjustments you want him to do. Those are just very minor adjustments at the end of the day. At the end of the day he got KAT to be an all star starter for the first time… hart and OG are having career seasons. Hes done a lot to get guys to play better.

Sure Tom is good at getting guys to play harder and gives them free reign to go out and get buckets which is why KAT n Jalen got their starting All Star nods, but how does that translate to winning playoff basketball?

It also leaves guys like Mikal just standing in the corner and KAT (despite having an All Star starter year) not being used to his max ability… mainly 3pt shot attempts, types of looks (doesn’t come off screens much), playing in drop coverage, posting up 100 ft out, etc. Jalen n KAT aren’t really a dynamic duo either… I expected more in the way of them playing off one another. Not Joker-Jamal level, but better than this.

I haven’t mentioned anything specifically in this convo adjustments wise yet besides minutes and rotation. The schemes and actions mentioned throughout the year that he hasn’t tried are significant.

Like what I mentioned above about KAT and Mikal plus a lack of p&r with those two. With Brunson out Mikal has looked better with more opportunities to handle the rock. Thibs needs to find a way to get these guys to play better when they’re all together. Also needs to get them to shoot more from 3. Not to mention putting better lineups out there that complement each other/staggering correctly.

Defensively, it’s been beaten to death how a switch heavy defense would benefit this team and limit getting killed by the 3 like we do. Also playing zone at times with a double big lineup (KAT n Mitch) would be nice like Houston does. With a lack of wings on the team, try bringing Hart off the bench. Mikal out of position at POA, start Deuce. These things aren’t trivial.

[robillionaire]

Yea these adjustments that people are complaining about really isn’t changing much.

Which is fine because we’re going to be a 50+ win 3 seed and have the same crack at winning in the playoffs as any other team would whether they had more regular season wins or not. So let’s see what happens in the playoffs. Brunson and Towns have at least both been in conference finals and Mikal to the nba finals, maybe the fit of the team does eventually get exposed and we’ll see on that but they aren’t all just incapable of winning a playoff game or anything. Even the fit could theoretically be helped with staggering or playing 2 bigs for stretches at a time. Maybe a different coach does something different to mitigate the weaknesses, who knows

But you did identify correctly that the bench sucks so fixing that could even be a world of difference regardless of coach so there is actually upside to just tweaking the roster as far as I’m concerned. Will be hard with no assets but yeah. Come on down ring chasers

We’ll see in the playoffs if anything changes but based on what I seen from this team we are a second round exit at best

Well the 2 seed is typically favored to beat the 3 seed especially when the 2 seed are the defending champions so I don’t think there’s anything wrong with predicting that. If nothing else it will be interesting to see if we get swept or are competitive to get a better idea of where we stand

[Jalen Bluntson]

Two of those four play poor defence. One of those four plays slow while the other 3 play fast. All four want/need 15+ shots.

It's the mentality that is a problem. Bridges doesn't really love being a third option. Neither does OG.

The names sound good but there are holes in the seams.

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What? The holes are in the coaching. Insinuating that Bridges/OG play poorly because of mentality is ridiculous. Maybe if the HC would get EVERYONE involved on offense we wouldn't be getting blown out all of the time. Maybe if he utilized the talent he has on the bench, players wouldn't be burned out or dealing with nagging overuse injuries by the time January rolls around. We should have been playing Brunson off ball a lot sooner than waiting for him to be out with an injury. Thibs doesn't try anything other than ISO Brunson running the show. Everyone else standing in the corner waiting to see what happens next. That's not an offensive system. It's not the best use of your roster at all. We are seeing the proof unfold in real time

. Let other guys handle the ball where they are comfortable. Players like Shamet are best getting the ball in motion for catch and shoot. Thibs usually has him standing in a corner. OG has to defend the entire team and then he gets to stand in the corner on offense. Mikal has to chase guys around fighting through screens on defense for 40 minutes a night and he gets to stand in the corner on offense. KAT should be shooting way more threes. He is driving from the perimeter and getting hacked and whacked all the way to the basket with no calls. Brunson is fighting longer defenders full court to get the ball over the line. We don't even set back screens for him! Just leave him on an island.

There is no design to our offense. Let the game tell you what to do? No. Impose your will. Make the opponent play your game. Make them expend energy on defense so they have tired legs on offense. You know, like every other team does to us because they already know we will be tired from playing too many minutes as it is.

The crazy excuses for why we suddenly see better play after 60+ games due to injuries really tells the whole story. Thibs has zero business running an offense. His antiquated defense only works with the a top rim protector in the league. Without that he has no answers for anything. His positives as a HC are minimal.

I said Mikal/OG don't have the mentality of third options. They don't. They want more touches not fewer. Do you disagree with that?

You can say it's on Thibs to weave it all together and I can agree with that but it is clear the four are not a natural seamless fit. You saying the hole is in the coaching still acknowledges the holes exist.

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The holes exist BC of the coach. It's not about mentality, it's about being put in the best position to succeed. By the way. Mikal and OG have never been anything more than a third option in their careers except by default in NJ for Mikal.

The holes I am talking about are in the strategy. Not the players fit. It's wild how BOS doesn't suddenly discover what their rosters can do until game 60+. Cleveland. OKC. etc etc. Whatever. Thibs is clearly getting his pass for this being a new team. He needs to do better moving forward as usual.

[spree2kawhi]

Wright a -5 in 33 minutes with 4 assists and 12 points, only minus of starters.
Kolek a +12 in 20 minutes with 7 assists and 5 points, highest plus on bench, 3rd highest on team.

Force Thibs hand kid. He really sets everyone up good.The more we see, the more we like. Offense is coming around.

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But OG was by far our best player so that tells you something about all these types of stats.

[Gravy]

Shamet turned into Steve Novak all of a sudden. Let's see if he can keep this up in the playoffs or at least tonight against the Cavs. He was definitely terrible and a liability earlier in the season.

Our players look amazing against the worst teams. So people are using that as a way to say Thibs has been holding them back. Yet those very same players disappear against the contenders.

Fans are focusing on the coaches from the other top teams but those teams made a leap when they added key players to the roster and fixed some of their issues.
OKC- Caruso, IHart
Cle- Deandre Hunter, healthier players
Celtics - Jrue + KP

[robillionaire]

Wright a -5 in 33 minutes with 4 assists and 12 points, only minus of starters.
Kolek a +12 in 20 minutes with 7 assists and 5 points, highest plus on bench, 3rd highest on team.

Force Thibs hand kid. He really sets everyone up good.The more we see, the more we like. Offense is coming around.

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But OG was by far our best player so that tells you something about all these types of stats.

Yeah they’re not super meaningful on this amount of sample size

But as far as the plus minus of last night that only shows that Kolek is currently in an appropriate position to succeed and not kill his confidence. And is helping the bench play better. Again he’s never going to be the starter over Brunson so why not let him get acclimated running the point off the bench? That’s what we’d need him for in the coming years. So this is still good relevant experience for him.

In the game Payne got injured at halftime we started out the 3rd against their starters with Kolek, it went bad and he looked frazzled.

Wright is only a stop gap veteran but it’s good to have him there to manage the game and protect Kolek and let him get acclimated fairly without throwing him to the wolves

I could see us starting Kolek in the last couple games of the season once our position is locked in though

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Shamet turned into Steve Novak all of a sudden. Let's see if he can keep this up in the playoffs or at least tonight against the Cavs. He was definitely terrible and a liability earlier in the season.

Our players look amazing against the worst teams. So people are using that as a way to say Thibs has been holding them back. Yet those very same players disappear against the contenders.

Fans are focusing on the coaches from the other top teams but those teams made a leap when they added key players to the roster and fixed some of their issues.
OKC- Caruso, IHart
Cle- Deandre Hunter, healthier players
Celtics - Jrue + KP

What? The excuses for Thibs running 7-8 man rotations all season has reached desperately low levels.

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But OG was by far our best player so that tells you something about all these types of stats.

Yeah they’re not super meaningful on this amount of sample size

But as far as the plus minus of last night that only shows that Kolek is currently in an appropriate position to succeed and not kill his confidence. And is helping the bench play better. Again he’s never going to be the starter over Brunson so why not let him get acclimated running the point off the bench? That’s what we’d need him for in the coming years. So this is still good relevant experience for him.

In the game Payne got injured at halftime we started out the 3rd against their starters with Kolek, it went bad and he looked frazzled.

Wright is only a stop gap veteran but it’s good to have him there to manage the game and protect Kolek and let him get acclimated fairly without throwing him to the wolves

I could see us starting Kolek in the last couple games of the season once our position is locked in though

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Still can’t believe Thibs said that

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But OG was by far our best player so that tells you something about all these types of stats.

Yeah they’re not super meaningful on this amount of sample size

But as far as the plus minus of last night that only shows that Kolek is currently in an appropriate position to succeed and not kill his confidence. And is helping the bench play better. Again he’s never going to be the starter over Brunson so why not let him get acclimated running the point off the bench? That’s what we’d need him for in the coming years. So this is still good relevant experience for him.

In the game Payne got injured at halftime we started out the 3rd against their starters with Kolek, it went bad and he looked frazzled.

Wright is only a stop gap veteran but it’s good to have him there to manage the game and protect Kolek and let him get acclimated fairly without throwing him to the wolves

I could see us starting Kolek in the last couple games of the season once our position is locked in though

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Still can’t believe Thibs said that

Yeah it sounds kinda stupid. Output is always situational and he has to put players in situations they will succeed in.