KD to the Knicks part 2?

[Knicksfan1992]

Team starphucking is backup

Get mikal outta here and bring in kd

Mikal for KD in a heartbeat

and now find 35 MM of additional matching salary.

Hart+Mitch gets you close but you're gutting the team to start a KD-Towns frontcourt and losing two hustle/ top tier role guys would be brutal for a team playing JB/KAT/KD heavy minutes...

Any KD trade is probably a Towns swap and I just don't see how that's worth it even if you have some doubts about KAT's ability in high leverage situations. KD could fall off a cliff at any moment (and there are already real signs of decline to anyone who doesn't just look at box score numbers). KAT still has 2-4 prime years left and you have more flexibility to get the right ancillary pieces around him. People think we're "stuck" now... Wait until we give 36 year old KD with tons of mileage, a ruptured Achilles and a Lisfranc injury in his past a massive extension... Hello Isiah!

Give what you would give up for KD for Giannis if you're going to make a move like that IMO

[Guano]

its got to be trolling at this point.

Complain about the depth...now lets make a 3 for 1 trade.

two being iron men and one our only interior presence. For a oft injured (still good scoring) soon to be 37 year old wing with one more year left on his deal?

This is craziness.

Thought you could sneak this one in without us noticing, eh

huh?

Oh you must be talking about mitch cause I know you're not trying to mention kat as a defensive presence.

[GONYK]

Mikal for KD in a heartbeat

and now find 35 MM of additional matching salary.

Hart+Mitch gets you close but you're gutting the team to start a KD-Towns frontcourt and losing two hustle/ top tier role guys would be brutal for a team playing JB/KAT/KD heavy minutes...

Any KD trade is probably a Towns swap and I just don't see how that's worth it even if you have some doubts about KAT's ability in high leverage situations. KD could fall off a cliff at any moment (and there are already real signs of decline to anyone who doesn't just look at box score numbers). KAT still has 2-4 prime years left and you have more flexibility to get the right ancillary pieces around him. People think we're "stuck" now... Wait until we give 36 year old KD with tons of mileage, a ruptured Achilles and a Lisfranc injury in his past a massive extension... Hello Isiah!

Give what you would give up for KD for Giannis if you're going to make a move like that IMO

From a pure asset management standpoint, the Knicks would never do it.

[JayTWill]

I think like Lebron, Durant is gonna remain a great player at age 40

He may still be good but not great, and there’s clearly a noticeable decline. Not to mention a decline in games played at his older age. Father Time is a sob that sneaks up out of nowhere too.

You know if we trade for him at 37 years old, dude will age rapidly overnight. I fear it’ll be a Philly/PG situation especially with him wanting a max extension. It could be another one in the long list of has beens or past their prime players the Knicks finally get: DRose, T-Mac, Noah, Amare, Baron, Bibby, Marbury, etc etc etc

37 year old with no bench and thibs rotations...what could go wrong?

Don't worry ironmen OG and KAT will be here with the 37 year old.

[HEZI]

We are already a top offensive team and you think trading Mikal, Hart, and Mitch 3 of the teams best defenders (outside of OG) and all that rebounding and minutes they eat up (durability). Is a good decision for another ISO scorer when we have Brunson and KAT that can already score? And we already have a depth issue and making a 3 for 1 trade destroys our depth (which you constantly complain about).

On top of that KD is 36 and hasn't had a healthy season since 2019. He's basically played over 60 games once in the last 6 years.

We are awful against any teams that can defend. Unless you are just happy with beating mediocre and bad teams then that’s fine. Anything more than that will require a major trade. Not sure what else could be expected with those three pieces, nobody is going to trade anybody more significant than KD for Mikal, Hart and Robinson. I’m not sure Suns would even do that. But at some point we will have to take another risk and that will involve breaking up this current core but there’s just no way to get anybody better without draft picks that we already traded away. So the best we will be able to do is an aging star or reshuffling of better fitting role players and hoping that can work out better.

we have two of the best offensive players in the sport...I agree we shouldn't struggle vs the best teams so badly.

Those two have been the entire offense against those teams. The issue is the others

[mpharris36]

and now find 35 MM of additional matching salary.

Hart+Mitch gets you close but you're gutting the team to start a KD-Towns frontcourt and losing two hustle/ top tier role guys would be brutal for a team playing JB/KAT/KD heavy minutes...

Any KD trade is probably a Towns swap and I just don't see how that's worth it even if you have some doubts about KAT's ability in high leverage situations. KD could fall off a cliff at any moment (and there are already real signs of decline to anyone who doesn't just look at box score numbers). KAT still has 2-4 prime years left and you have more flexibility to get the right ancillary pieces around him. People think we're "stuck" now... Wait until we give 36 year old KD with tons of mileage, a ruptured Achilles and a Lisfranc injury in his past a massive extension... Hello Isiah!

Give what you would give up for KD for Giannis if you're going to make a move like that IMO

From a pure asset management standpoint, the Knicks would never do it.

The CBA already limits roster construction. We are seeing the effects of what a 2 for 1 trade can do to the depth from a trade that was needed because we lost our center depth to start the year.

Imagine what a roster would look like with KD/KAT/OG/Brunson making 180 MM combined. You are basically already above the 1st apron with the rest of the roster still needed to be filled out

[HEZI]

Mikal for KD in a heartbeat

and now find 35 MM of additional matching salary.

Hart+Mitch gets you close but you're gutting the team to start a KD-Towns frontcourt and losing two hustle/ top tier role guys would be brutal for a team playing JB/KAT/KD heavy minutes...

Any KD trade is probably a Towns swap and I just don't see how that's worth it even if you have some doubts about KAT's ability in high leverage situations. KD could fall off a cliff at any moment (and there are already real signs of decline to anyone who doesn't just look at box score numbers). KAT still has 2-4 prime years left and you have more flexibility to get the right ancillary pieces around him. People think we're "stuck" now... Wait until we give 36 year old KD with tons of mileage, a ruptured Achilles and a Lisfranc injury in his past a massive extension... Hello Isiah!

Give what you would give up for KD for Giannis if you're going to make a move like that IMO

Giannis is a worse fit. You trade KAT and who plays the 5? You absolutely can’t have Giannis with a rim running big, that will be a disaster. KDs skill set fits better than Giannis unless we could instantly find a starting caliber stretch 5 somewhere.

[mpharris36]

Thought you could sneak this one in without us noticing, eh

huh?

Oh you must be talking about mitch cause I know you're not trying to mention kat as a defensive presence.

Yes I'm talking about Mitch because HEZI proposed trading Mikal, Hart, and Mitch for KD since that roughly makes the math work.

[MrDollarBills]

I'm not trading Karl Anthony Towns in his prime for Kevin Durant at this stage of his career. I swear people act like KAT isn't putting up an All NBA season come on yall

Also, Durant is now forcing his way off his 2nd straight team that has grossly underachieved. He is the one constant.

I'd rather stay the course with who we have and add pieces to fill needs this summer.

I mean unless you want Tom to get fired, by all means, because KD has seen like 4 straight coaches get canned because of him.

[HopelessKnick]

The Suns are 33-28 with KD in the line-up (lost all their 3 OT games so could have easily been 36-25ish).

They are 2-13 without him in the line-up.

KD is still a big time difference maker.

If the Suns do KD for KAT straight up you do it and run. Try to get Richards as a backup Center but do the trade regardless.

[MrDollarBills]

We are awful against any teams that can defend. Unless you are just happy with beating mediocre and bad teams then that’s fine. Anything more than that will require a major trade. Not sure what else could be expected with those three pieces, nobody is going to trade anybody more significant than KD for Mikal, Hart and Robinson. I’m not sure Suns would even do that. But at some point we will have to take another risk and that will involve breaking up this current core but there’s just no way to get anybody better without draft picks that we already traded away. So the best we will be able to do is an aging star or reshuffling of better fitting role players and hoping that can work out better.

we have two of the best offensive players in the sport...I agree we shouldn't struggle vs the best teams so badly.

Those two have been the entire offense against those teams. The issue is the others

Mikal and OG are playing their best basketball of the season right now because the ball is moving.

It's not them, it's the fact that Tom thinks having JB and KAT iso spam is a great use of the talent on this roster. It clearly isn't and well coached teams know how to shut that down quickly

[HopelessKnick]

we have two of the best offensive players in the sport...I agree we shouldn't struggle vs the best teams so badly.

Those two have been the entire offense against those teams. The issue is the others

Mikal and OG are playing their best basketball of the season right now because the ball is moving.

It's not them, it's the fact that Tom thinks having JB and KAT iso spam is a great use of the talent on this roster. It clearly isn't and well coached teams know how to shut that down quickly

KAT is great against not-elite defenses. Elite defenses take away his 3 pointer as well as drive. This is why he struggles in the playoffs. He is one of those guys whose offensive game does not translate well against elite defenses. KD is like the exact opposite. It is in the nature of the game. No defense can take away a jump shooting 7 footer, shooting fade aways from midrange and literal jumpshot from 3, elevating 1-2 feet into the air. KAT has a set shot. If you guard him closely at the 3 point line he can't take the 3. Hence why he has been able to only shoot 2 three pointer a game against the top teams. They take it away.

[thebuzzardman]

Brunson for KD

[GONYK]

Has anyone noticed that the Suns suck?

Nope. They just seeing a sexy name.

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2 years ago KD was 1cm away from taking the Nets to the finals and winning a ship. Had Kyrie stayed healthy the Nets would be rocking a title right now. I know, uncomfortable truths, but it is what it is.

If the Suns are down for KD for KAT you do it.

That was 4 years ago. That's how old KD is.

[sol537]

If you can't get Giannis with KAT as your centerpiece, you think long and hard about KD...

Isiah is consulting over there, so you could likely pry Dunn, a future unprotected 1st rounder, and a future 1st pick swap out of it as well since KAT is younger and under contract for longer.

Isiah will sell their owner on pairing an all-star big (KAT) with an all-star guard (Booker)... They'll still be a play-in team, but they'll be younger, at least.

KAT, Tucker, Precious (S&T) for KD, Dunn, future 1st, future 1st swap

Start: Mitch / KD / OG / Mikal / Brunson
Bench: Huk / Dunn / Hart / Deuce / Kolek
Coach: Dan Hurley or Johnnie Bryant

[Guano]

huh?

Oh you must be talking about mitch cause I know you're not trying to mention kat as a defensive presence.

Yes I'm talking about Mitch because HEZI proposed trading Mikal, Hart, and Mitch for KD since that roughly makes the math work.

Count me in

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[gavran]

Nope. They just seeing a sexy name.

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2 years ago KD was 1cm away from taking the Nets to the finals and winning a ship. Had Kyrie stayed healthy the Nets would be rocking a title right now. I know, uncomfortable truths, but it is what it is.

If the Suns are down for KD for KAT you do it.

That was 4 years ago. That's how old KD is.

Also 1 cm apparently includes 1 whole round of the playoffs.

[HEZI]

we have two of the best offensive players in the sport...I agree we shouldn't struggle vs the best teams so badly.

Those two have been the entire offense against those teams. The issue is the others

Mikal and OG are playing their best basketball of the season right now because the ball is moving.

It's not them, it's the fact that Tom thinks having JB and KAT iso spam is a great use of the talent on this roster. It clearly isn't and well coached teams know how to shut that down quickly

What are you talking about? It’s the same coach and same system just shot distribution is different. Brunson being out has created more shots for a guy like OG. This is just common sense. 20 shot attempts per game have to get distributed somewhere. Every team has a number 2 and number 2 option so we can stop pretending like we are the only team featuring our main scorers.

And our schedule recently has been extremely easy, it’s been a bunch of lotto teams and we haven’t really faced many good teams. Clippers, Warriors and I think that’s it.

And by the way Brunson is an iso scorer so if you don’t want to feature his strengths then you should probably look at getting another PG. Brunson has done fine scoring against tough opponents. The issue has been the others have not. I trust OG to be able to but he needs shots too and this is where the Mikal trade is bad because OG should really be our 3rd option but it’s been Mikal and he’s failed to step up against the top teams because his game is easily shut down by good defenses due to his lack of ability.

[Guano]

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