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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#301 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Mar 17, 2025 6:42 pm

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Mr B wrote:Hard to say. Some have him ranked as high as a late 1st and some have him as a 5th rounder. Realistically he’s probably somewhere in between. If I had to guess I would say he gets drafted by a decent team late in round 2 or 3.

I just have this odd feeling that the Cowboys are going to draft him a little higher than we all are expecting them to draft a QB (I’m thinking 2nd or 3rd round).

Ewers is a day three guy for me. He's a tough sell.

Yea and I can see why. He has all of the physical tools but he didn’t exactly light it up at Texas. Also I live in Dallas have heard some no so flattering things about Ewers since his days at Southlake. He has a lot of the Aaron Rodgers arrogance in him. He thinks his **** doesn’t stink.

Off the field? Idk...But his tape is rough. Footwork, accuracy, turnovers are all issues. His play is volatile. He's not the biggest guy either. So, durability is a major concern as well. Honestly, I would be shocked if a team took him in the first 2 rounds.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#302 » by Mr B » Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:10 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Ewers is a day three guy for me. He's a tough sell.

Yea and I can see why. He has all of the physical tools but he didn’t exactly light it up at Texas. Also I live in Dallas have heard some no so flattering things about Ewers since his days at Southlake. He has a lot of the Aaron Rodgers arrogance in him. He thinks his **** doesn’t stink.

Off the field? Idk...But his tape is rough. Footwork, accuracy, turnovers are all issues. His play is volatile. He's not the biggest guy either. So, durability is a major concern as well. Honestly, I would be shocked if a team took him in the first 2 rounds.

He’s 6’2” 215 lbs. He has adequate size for the NFL. He’s not one of the top 2 prospects so I agree I’d be surprised if he’s drafted in the 1st round. He’s not a perfect prospect and has his flaws. We see it every year though, GM’s always think they know “their guy” and Ewers won’t be any different. I would not be shocked at all if he’s drafted in the 3rd round.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#303 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:28 pm

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Mr B wrote:Yea and I can see why. He has all of the physical tools but he didn’t exactly light it up at Texas. Also I live in Dallas have heard some no so flattering things about Ewers since his days at Southlake. He has a lot of the Aaron Rodgers arrogance in him. He thinks his **** doesn’t stink.

Off the field? Idk...But his tape is rough. Footwork, accuracy, turnovers are all issues. His play is volatile. He's not the biggest guy either. So, durability is a major concern as well. Honestly, I would be shocked if a team took him in the first 2 rounds.

He’s 6’2” 215 lbs. He has adequate size for the NFL. He’s not one of the top 2 prospects so I agree I’d be surprised if he’s drafted in the 1st round. He’s not a perfect prospect and has his flaws. We see it every year though, GM’s always think they know “their guy” and Ewers won’t be any different. I would not be shocked at all if he’s drafted in the 3rd round.

He's not a big guy. Has dealt with injuries too. He lost a significant amount of weight. He's not 215lbs.
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2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#304 » by Mr B » Mon Mar 17, 2025 8:15 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Off the field? Idk...But his tape is rough. Footwork, accuracy, turnovers are all issues. His play is volatile. He's not the biggest guy either. So, durability is a major concern as well. Honestly, I would be shocked if a team took him in the first 2 rounds.

He’s 6’2” 215 lbs. He has adequate size for the NFL. He’s not one of the top 2 prospects so I agree I’d be surprised if he’s drafted in the 1st round. He’s not a perfect prospect and has his flaws. We see it every year though, GM’s always think they know “their guy” and Ewers won’t be any different. I would not be shocked at all if he’s drafted in the 3rd round.

He's not a big guy. Has dealt with injuries too. He lost a significant amount of weight. He's not 215lbs.

From all the scouting reports at the Combine he performed pretty well in all the drills he participated in and he officially weighed in at 210 lbs. that is a little light but he could easily get up to 220 by the time training camp starts.

Again, he’s not the guy I want the Cowboys to draft and I agree that he’s not a perfect prospect. He’s definitely flawed. Just saying he’s not a bad NFL QB prospect.

Edit: Ewers didn’t run the 40 at the Combine so we are unsure what his 40 time is.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#305 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Mar 17, 2025 8:19 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:Our needs elsewhere are too great to use a 1st or a 2nd on a QB who will just watch Dak.

We need our 1st and 2nd round picks to be day 1 starters.

I agree 100% but I really think they are going to take a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round.

I think they NEED to draft a QB. Rush is gone now, and the Trey Lance experiment is over. So we definitely need something working in the background. It just needs to be after round 2 I think.

They basically need to draft a QB the same way they drafted Dak.
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Post#306 » by Mr B » Mon Mar 17, 2025 8:50 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:Our needs elsewhere are too great to use a 1st or a 2nd on a QB who will just watch Dak.

We need our 1st and 2nd round picks to be day 1 starters.

I agree 100% but I really think they are going to take a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round.

I think they NEED to draft a QB. Rush is gone now, and the Trey Lance experiment is over. So we definitely need something working in the background. It just needs to be after round 2 I think.

They basically need to draft a QB the same way they drafted Dak.

Personally I’d prefer they sign Jamis Winston to be the backup and then draft a guy with one of those compensatory picks.
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Post#307 » by Otis Driftwood » Tue Mar 18, 2025 3:12 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:Our needs elsewhere are too great to use a 1st or a 2nd on a QB who will just watch Dak.

We need our 1st and 2nd round picks to be day 1 starters.


Completely agree.

But… Jerry does have a habit of reaching for guys in the 2nd round who shouldn’t be picked there for various reasons. So I wouldn’t put it past him to follow that trend - as much as it would p**s all of us off.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#308 » by TFJava » Tue Mar 18, 2025 3:21 pm

2025 Dallas Cowboys draft picks

Round 1: 12th overall
Round 2: 44th overall
Round 3: 76th overall
Round 5: 149th overall
Round 5: 171st overall (compensatory)
Round 5: 174th overall (compensatory)
Round 6: 204th overall (acquired from Bills in Elam trade)
Round 6: 211th overall (compensatory)
Round 7: 239th overall (acquired from Titans in Murray trade)
Round 7: 247th overall

With all the draft capital the Cowboys currently have, should they attach one of their 5th round picks along with one of their 6th's and their 1st round pick to try to move up to the get one of the top 5 draft pick slots? OL and DE / Edge rusher is a need. I think they can get a solid RB in the 2nd round.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#309 » by Micah Prescott » Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:03 pm

We have soooo many needs now :lol:

I think after the last two drafts (Guyton and Mazi) I just don't even care who they take or what position as long as this player is a quality day 1 starter.

12th overall should be someone who is going to appear in a few ProBowls. Maybe not their rookie year, but the promise of that should be seen their rookie year.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#310 » by Micah Prescott » Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:07 pm

And Sam Williams? he needs to get his fkin sht together.

This is a make or break year for Sam Williams. A do or die year. I hope he is taking it seriously.

The guy has a ton of promise. Holds the Ole Miss sack record, but like so many is just a head case. GET IT TOGETHER.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#311 » by Mr B » Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:04 pm

TFJava wrote:2025 Dallas Cowboys draft picks

Round 1: 12th overall
Round 2: 44th overall
Round 3: 76th overall
Round 5: 149th overall
Round 5: 171st overall (compensatory)
Round 5: 174th overall (compensatory)
Round 6: 204th overall (acquired from Bills in Elam trade)
Round 6: 211th overall (compensatory)
Round 7: 239th overall (acquired from Titans in Murray trade)
Round 7: 247th overall

With all the draft capital the Cowboys currently have, should they attach one of their 5th round picks along with one of their 6th's and their 1st round pick to try to move up to the get one of the top 5 draft pick slots? OL and DE / Edge rusher is a need. I think they can get a solid RB in the 2nd round.

There are really only 2 players in this draft that would be worthy of a top 5 pick for the Cowboys… Abdul Carter or Mason Graham. Well Travis Hunter would be a good fit too if he’s willing to focus on playing CB only.

I wouldn’t hate adding any of those guys but I think the Cowboys just have too many holes to fill to be trading away multiple picks.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#312 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:01 pm

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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#313 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Mar 27, 2025 2:27 pm

The CeeDee nose wipe celebration has been banned...lol

like....what?

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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#314 » by Mr B » Thu Mar 27, 2025 3:09 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:The CeeDee nose wipe celebration has been banned...lol

like....what?

why?

They said it promotes violence. Lol
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#315 » by Mr B » Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:37 pm

So question for you guys. Should the Cowboys draft for position need or just take the Best Player Available at pick 12 (assuming no trading up or down).

I’m asking because Ashton Jeanty and Tet McMillan would be the BPA if either are there at 12 but there is a real chance that both are off the board at 12.

If that happens the BPA would likely be TE Tyler Warren. Would you guys be ok taking a TE even if he’s the BPA at pick 12?
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#316 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:34 pm

Mr B wrote:So question for you guys. Should the Cowboys draft for position need or just take the Best Player Available at pick 12 (assuming no trading up or down).

I’m asking because Ashton Jeanty and Tet McMillan would be the BPA if either are there at 12 but there is a real chance that both are off the board at 12.

If that happens the BPA would likely be TE Tyler Warren. Would you guys be ok taking a TE even if he’s the BPA at pick 12?

Weren't the Mazi & Guyton picks kind of forcing a need? Why go down that road again? Is my point.

You always should take the best player available approach (Micah & CeeDee). Reaching for need usually ends up with the team eventually regretting it down the line.

In 2019, the Hawks reached on LJ Collier, who ended up being a massive bust because taking a DE was a huge need at the time. The other guy in consideration for them was Deebo Samuel. But they chose to take Collier instead. Which obviously backfired.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#317 » by Mr B » Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:52 pm

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Mr B wrote:So question for you guys. Should the Cowboys draft for position need or just take the Best Player Available at pick 12 (assuming no trading up or down).

I’m asking because Ashton Jeanty and Tet McMillan would be the BPA if either are there at 12 but there is a real chance that both are off the board at 12.

If that happens the BPA would likely be TE Tyler Warren. Would you guys be ok taking a TE even if he’s the BPA at pick 12?

Weren't the Mazi & Guyton picks kind of forcing a need? Why go down that road again? Is my point.

You always should take the best player available approach (Micah & CeeDee). Reaching for need usually ends up with the team eventually regretting it down the line.

In 2019, the Hawks reached on LJ Collier, who ended up being a massive bust because taking a DE was a huge need at the time. The other guy in consideration for them was Deebo Samuel. But they chose to take Collier instead. Which obviously backfired.

That’s also why I bring it up. Drafting for need is how the Cowboys ended up with Mazi, and a guy like Taco Charlton. I won’t put Guyton in that same boat only because Guyton was drafted at the end of round 1. Plus the jury is still out on Guyton. I’ll wait until year 3 before labeling him a bust or not.

With that said, BPA at 12 is likely TE Tyler Warren. TE is definitely not a “need” position and would be very much a luxury pick. Warren would absolutely help the passing game. He’s basically a big WR. Not a great blocker though.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#318 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:58 pm

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Mr B wrote:So question for you guys. Should the Cowboys draft for position need or just take the Best Player Available at pick 12 (assuming no trading up or down).

I’m asking because Ashton Jeanty and Tet McMillan would be the BPA if either are there at 12 but there is a real chance that both are off the board at 12.

If that happens the BPA would likely be TE Tyler Warren. Would you guys be ok taking a TE even if he’s the BPA at pick 12?

Weren't the Mazi & Guyton picks kind of forcing a need? Why go down that road again? Is my point.

You always should take the best player available approach (Micah & CeeDee). Reaching for need usually ends up with the team eventually regretting it down the line.

In 2019, the Hawks reached on LJ Collier, who ended up being a massive bust because taking a DE was a huge need at the time. The other guy in consideration for them was Deebo Samuel. But they chose to take Collier instead. Which obviously backfired.

That’s also why I bring it up. Drafting for need is how the Cowboys ended up with Mazi, and a guy like Taco Charlton. I won’t put Guyton in that same boat only because Guyton was drafted at the end of round 1. Plus the jury is still out on Guyton. I’ll wait until year 3 before labeling him a bust or not.

With that said, BPA at 12 is likely TE Tyler Warren. TE is definitely not a “need” position and would be very much a luxury pick. Warren would absolutely help the passing game. He’s basically a big WR. Not a great blocker though.

I mentioned Guyton because Tackle was a huge need for them this time last year.

Yeah, the consensus on Mazi was 2nd round talent.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#319 » by Mr B » Thu Apr 3, 2025 2:17 pm

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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#320 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Apr 3, 2025 3:43 pm

I don't know anything at all about Joe Milton.

But I suppose this frees up a draft pick we would have had to use on an experimental QB.

I'm glad they are doing things outside of the draft.

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