What Teams Are Best Equipped To Land Giannis In A Potential Trade Request?

[JM00n69]

OKC best team and fit if he wants to win and they've got the assests

[Helsbyte]

Indiana's offer: Siakim +Mathurin + draft picks

[ArksNetsSince99]

Lakers could probably get him for a heavily protected 2nd.

No way Bucks bite this without Bronny being part of the deal as well

[Onlytimewilltel]

Lakers could probably get him for a heavily protected 2nd.

No way Bucks bite this without Bronny being part of the deal as well

The Chosen Son

[EArl]

Lakers could probably get him for a heavily protected 2nd.

This is the way

[ReasonablySober]

Giannis only cares about winning, which as a Bucks fan, seems unlikely.

Simmons is a moron. He's not ending up in NY or LA. If Golden State had any assets they'd be the favorite. OKC has a million picks but they're all trash and they don't have the contracts to make it work.

Houston's the only answer. FVV, Thompson, and picks probably get it done.

[Sphynx]

OKC is NOT the team IMO, their picks aren't great and they shouldn't break a 70 wins pace core.
Rockets are the team IMO.

I don't think people ׳ים mentioned OKC talked about OKC's own picks.

2025:
They will swap for Clippers pick.
Lottery protected Miami pick (or 2026 unprotected)
1-6 protected one from 76ers (or 1-4 protection the following 2 years)

2026: (not including the above mentioned Miami and 76ers picks):
Houston and Clippers FRPs (basically, 2 best out of these and their own pick)

2027:
Denver 1-5 protected (same protection for 2 more years)
Swap with Clippers

2028:
Dallas
OKC own pick

2029-2031:
Won picks

So basically, even their own picks are more valuable that what you think, as their 2025 pick might be worth around 18-ish pick (swap with Clippers), their 2026 and 2027 worth some middle of the pack pick at worst (Clippers are oooold).
And you have some potentially lottery picks in Denver 2027, Miami 2026 (if not conveyed this year and Miami struggle next year), lottery one from Sixers this year or next year (with some luck) - those 3 picks and those from Clippers have potential to land anything between 2-5 lottery picks, I believe. It's crazy. Plus their own 2029-2031 are so far away, that even such picks might be worth a gamble. I mean, would you rather have a 20th pick in 2025 or a pick 6 years from now that have like 15% to be in lottery (health, CBA effect, whatever else), 50% to be around the same 20-ish range and 35% to be one of the last picks?

Yeah, but Denver picks are protected, Clippers pick is next year and they're still good, PHI/MIA picks aren't great PHI is just tanking, they aren't as bad as their record suggest, Heat are still good it was just a bad year with the Butler stuff.
Compare that with HOU who own the imploding Suns futre and Mavs 29 1st, it's definitely better.

How are the 76ers pick a bad one?

In fact, based on current odds. The most likely outcome is 76ers getting pick 7, which is literally the best possible result for OKC

[Mavrelous]

I don't think people ׳ים mentioned OKC talked about OKC's own picks.

2025:
They will swap for Clippers pick.
Lottery protected Miami pick (or 2026 unprotected)
1-6 protected one from 76ers (or 1-4 protection the following 2 years)

2026: (not including the above mentioned Miami and 76ers picks):
Houston and Clippers FRPs (basically, 2 best out of these and their own pick)

2027:
Denver 1-5 protected (same protection for 2 more years)
Swap with Clippers

2028:
Dallas
OKC own pick

2029-2031:
Won picks

So basically, even their own picks are more valuable that what you think, as their 2025 pick might be worth around 18-ish pick (swap with Clippers), their 2026 and 2027 worth some middle of the pack pick at worst (Clippers are oooold).
And you have some potentially lottery picks in Denver 2027, Miami 2026 (if not conveyed this year and Miami struggle next year), lottery one from Sixers this year or next year (with some luck) - those 3 picks and those from Clippers have potential to land anything between 2-5 lottery picks, I believe. It's crazy. Plus their own 2029-2031 are so far away, that even such picks might be worth a gamble. I mean, would you rather have a 20th pick in 2025 or a pick 6 years from now that have like 15% to be in lottery (health, CBA effect, whatever else), 50% to be around the same 20-ish range and 35% to be one of the last picks?

Yeah, but Denver picks are protected, Clippers pick is next year and they're still good, PHI/MIA picks aren't great PHI is just tanking, they aren't as bad as their record suggest, Heat are still good it was just a bad year with the Butler stuff.
Compare that with HOU who own the imploding Suns futre and Mavs 29 1st, it's definitely better.

How are the 76ers pick a bad one?

In fact, based on current odds. The most likely outcome is 76ers getting pick 7, which is literally the best possible result for OKC

The most likely outcome is 6ers keeping their pick, and Sixers are tanking, next year they won't tank and will likely be PO team.

[Slot Machine]

Well, Chris Bosh is always gonna be the worst case scenario, Ala retirement at athletic peak… but supposedly he neglected the issue for years. So, you hope that we’ve come a lot further with recognizing and dealing with them accordingly.

The fear is real, but you hope that they are on top of it.

I wasn’t aware that Bosh apparently neglected the blood clot issue beforehand. What evidence is there of that?

Read for yourself sir. He rushed back upon first discovery, and maintained multiple come back attempts despite the reoccurrence in diff parts of the body. I’m not saying he could have avoided the outcome of retirement necessarily.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/why-did-chris-bosh-retire-blood-clot-issue-nba-career/eb64c1ad5322f0b3c685edd2

Yeah, your link doesn’t support what you said at all. Bosh never “neglected the issue for years,” and didn’t rush back. He was expected to be out for 6 months after the initial blood clot, was out 6+ months and then came back the next season. Then, the issue occurred again at the ASB of that year. He never rushed back, the comebacks just didn’t work out.

The issue wasn’t that he neglected to treat the blood clot issue for some time, it’s more so that there’s no way for it to be treated (for him) to still have an active NBA career. I’m not sure if there’s been medical breakthroughs or anything like that as I know Ausar Thompson had a similar issue and came back successfully.

But there’s not some special thing that Bosh didn’t/couldn’t do and Lillard/Wemby can. I think both of their careers are in pretty serious jeopardy and the risk is being very much undersold.

[ConSarnit]

I’m not asking him to win a championship, just carry a team a little for once. Off the top of my head Luka when he went to the WCF and Jimmy has done it multiple times with the Heat. It’s not too much to ask.

Giannis has won a chip though. Those other dudes haven’t. He was the finals mvp 35/13/5 on efficient shooting with elite D . He also lead his team to the ECF another time. It’s like you are living in a world that started in 2022.

You’re missing the point of my posts in this thread. What I’m saying is he’s had a good team put around him relatively early by a competent front office which many other great players never had. He did great to win a championship, but when he did he took shots at players who had to leave for better situations which I don’t think is fair. Not everyone has had the luxury that he did. Now he’s in a **** situation and I want to see what he does with it.

Why is this a badge of honor? You’re also ignoring a key factor: with Dame out the Bucks don’t just get to add another $50m in player salary. So your expectation is for Giannis to not only drag a mediocre team to the ECF but also do it with a roster hole that’s a third of the cap? How is that going to prove anything? Go cut out $50m in salary of every other playoff team and tell me who you’ll be disappointed in for not making the conference finals.

[ConSarnit]

I wasn’t aware that Bosh apparently neglected the blood clot issue beforehand. What evidence is there of that?

Read for yourself sir. He rushed back upon first discovery, and maintained multiple come back attempts despite the reoccurrence in diff parts of the body. I’m not saying he could have avoided the outcome of retirement necessarily.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/why-did-chris-bosh-retire-blood-clot-issue-nba-career/eb64c1ad5322f0b3c685edd2

Yeah, your link doesn’t support what you said at all. Bosh never “neglected the issue for years,” and didn’t rush back. He was expected to be out for 6 months after the initial blood clot, was out 6+ months and then came back the next season. Then, the issue occurred again at the ASB of that year. He never rushed back, the comebacks just didn’t work out.

The issue wasn’t that he neglected to treat the blood clot issue for some time, it’s more so that there’s no way for it to be treated (for him) to still have an active NBA career. I’m not sure if there’s been medical breakthroughs or anything like that as I know Ausar Thompson had a similar issue and came back successfully.

But there’s not some special thing that Bosh didn’t/couldn’t do and Lillard/Wemby can. I think both of their careers are in pretty serious jeopardy and the risk is being very much undersold.

Bosh is the minority as far as return to play goes. His first clot was also in a higher risk area (lungs). On average the vast majority of athletes are able to return from blood clots. Bosh’s case was not the normal/expected outcome for a professional athletes suffering from a blood clot.

[Sixers in 4]

Giannis only cares about winning, which as a Bucks fan, seems unlikely.

Simmons is a moron. He's not ending up in NY or LA. If Golden State had any assets they'd be the favorite. OKC has a million picks but they're all trash and they don't have the contracts to make it work.

Houston's the only answer. FVV, Thompson, and picks probably get it done.

Again Giannis has agency here. He'll choose his next destination because whatever team acquires knows he needs to agree to sign an extension either that or the Bucks settle for pennies on the dollar.

[Himothy Duncan]

Giannis has won a chip though. Those other dudes haven’t. He was the finals mvp 35/13/5 on efficient shooting with elite D . He also lead his team to the ECF another time. It’s like you are living in a world that started in 2022.

You’re missing the point of my posts in this thread. What I’m saying is he’s had a good team put around him relatively early by a competent front office which many other great players never had. He did great to win a championship, but when he did he took shots at players who had to leave for better situations which I don’t think is fair. Not everyone has had the luxury that he did. Now he’s in a **** situation and I want to see what he does with it.

Why is this a badge of honor? You’re also ignoring a key factor: with Dame out the Bucks don’t just get to add another $50m in player salary. So your expectation is for Giannis to not only drag a mediocre team to the ECF but also do it with a roster hole that’s a third of the cap? How is that going to prove anything? Go cut out $50m in salary of every other playoff team and tell me who you’ll be disappointed in for not making the conference finals.

C’mon man. What is this 50 mill of salary nonsense? It’s one All-Star player removed. If LeBron could carry a bunch of scrubs to the Finals as a 23 year old then why can’t Giannis go deep in his prime? I have already mentioned in this thread that Luka and Jimmy did it in recent years, why can’t he? It’s not about a badge of honor, it’s about talking **** after winning a title and trashing the less fortunate. That’s my problem.

[GiannisAnte34]

Raptors

Raptors are interesting re Giannis.

Kuzma (29 y/o) and Giannis (30 y/o) are 76M in salary, combined. Barnes (23 y/o) and Ingram (27 y/o) will be same… but I doubt Ingram is appealing to the Bucks. RJ + Barnes is 66 M… could be matched with Giannis and Connaughton. Not sure that picks would be needed in that case. TO now goes IQ-Dick-Ingram-Giannis as their starting 1-4, while the Bucks go Lillard-RJ-Barnes-Kuzma, having gotten a lot younger.

But would the Bucks send Giannis somewhere he didn’t want to go? And would he be ok going to TO?

RJ + Barnes would get outbid by multiple teams, that's a weak offer IMO

Also why is that Raps team appealing to Giannis from the standpoint of being competitive on arrival? Don't see that aspect either

[YogurtProducer]

Will Giannis get the same hate as other stars that left their teams if he does leave? Or will people pick and choose? This is a guy who many consider is a top 3 player but has never put a team on his back and took them deep all by himself. How about he does that for a change? He was talking **** after winning his injury riddled ring about “doing it the right way” lol. Let’s see what he’s about.

I'm sorry, did I only imagine him scoring 50 points in a close out finals game?

Does that change the fact the Nets would have beat them if they were healthy? I just want to see this guy make a deep playoff run without a single all-star teammate.

He won a title with Middleton as his best teammate

[YogurtProducer]

Raptors

Raptors are interesting re Giannis.

Kuzma (29 y/o) and Giannis (30 y/o) are 76M in salary, combined. Barnes (23 y/o) and Ingram (27 y/o) will be same… but I doubt Ingram is appealing to the Bucks. RJ + Barnes is 66 M… could be matched with Giannis and Connaughton. Not sure that picks would be needed in that case. TO now goes IQ-Dick-Ingram-Giannis as their starting 1-4, while the Bucks go Lillard-RJ-Barnes-Kuzma, having gotten a lot younger.

But would the Bucks send Giannis somewhere he didn’t want to go? And would he be ok going to TO?

RJ + Barnes would get outbid by multiple teams, that's a weak offer IMO

Also why is that Raps team appealing to Giannis from the standpoint of being competitive on arrival? Don't see that aspect either

Raptors can offer Barnes + a top 10 pick THIS YEAR and futures.

Can’t see anyone offering a better player (on a 5-year deal) or a better pick.

Giannis/Ingram/Quickley is a very nice start

[Himothy Duncan]

I'm sorry, did I only imagine him scoring 50 points in a close out finals game?

Does that change the fact the Nets would have beat them if they were healthy? I just want to see this guy make a deep playoff run without a single all-star teammate.

He won a title with Middleton as his best teammate

Who was an All-star... plus Jrue who was arguably the best perimeter defender in the league

[RRyder823]

Giannis only cares about winning, which as a Bucks fan, seems unlikely.

Simmons is a moron. He's not ending up in NY or LA. If Golden State had any assets they'd be the favorite. OKC has a million picks but they're all trash and they don't have the contracts to make it work.

Houston's the only answer. FVV, Thompson, and picks probably get it done.

Again Giannis has agency here. He'll choose his next destination because whatever team acquires knows he needs to agree to sign an extension either that or the Bucks settle for pennies on the dollar.

Giannis will have agency "if" he requests out

"Big market" isn't gonna be high on his priority list though and whether Simmons or the other talking heads want to believe or not it will most likely be a liability with getting on to his preferred destinations list

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[YogurtProducer]

Does that change the fact the Nets would have beat them if they were healthy? I just want to see this guy make a deep playoff run without a single all-star teammate.

He won a title with Middleton as his best teammate

Who was an All-star... plus Jrue who was arguably the best perimeter defender in the league

So you wanna seem him make a playoff run with no good teammates? Who in NBA history outside LBJ in CLE 1.0 has ever done that?

Middleton is only an all star because he was on a MIL team with Giannis lol let’s be honest here

That Bucks team without Giannis that win is arguably one of the worst rosters to win in recent memory. Like what are you talking about?

[Tor_Raps]

Us raptors fans have an irrational confidence that Giannis will come here because of his Masai connection. Masai looked like an idiot when he was clearing cap space to make a run for him in 2021 just for him to re-sign with the Bucks lol.

Bucks will accept Barnes + Dick + draft picks and like it lol.