2025 OFFSEASON

Pattersonca65 · Post #721 » by **Pattersonca65** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 6:05 pm

https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/niners/2025/04/01/49ers-c-jake-brendel-wont-face-competition-for-starting-job/82767207007/

CrimsonCrew · Post #722 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 7:14 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/niners/2025/04/01/49ers-c-jake-brendel-wont-face-competition-for-starting-job/82767207007/

If he doesn't, and the offense struggles again because of him, I think that's enough to put Shanahan on the hot seat. Dude just objectively struggled last year. He was routinely embarrassed in pass protection. I can't recall seeing a starting NFL player on the ground so much or just turning around and watching his QB getting killed/chased all over. If he is just handed a starting gig again after that, it would be a huge blow to my faith in the coaching staff.

Having said that, if they were happy with Brendel, I don't see why they would have brought Hennessy in at the end of the year, so hopefully this is just coach speak.

clyde21 · Post #723 » by **clyde21** » Thu Apr 3, 2025 7:42 pm

we're not drafting an OL in the 1st, and probably not even in the second unless there is crazy value there, people have to come to terms with that at this point lol

they'll take a LG in the 3rd/4th and maybe a developmental OT later and call it a day. calling it now.

clyde21 · Post #724 » by **clyde21** » Thu Apr 3, 2025 7:46 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:I hope Lynch is just blowing smoke about the offensive line. I can kind of understand Mckivitz but not Brendal. And not sure about where the article gets Brendel being ranked 12th with blocking. For 2024, Brendel had a PFF pass blocking score of 55 which is bad. Brendel is ranked among the bottom starting centers in the league.

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/nfl-annual-meeting-john-lynch-colton-mckivitz/1838916/

I think we're fine with McKivitz starting. He was alright last year. Same can't be said for Brendel. He disrupted the whole offense with his inept pass blocking left year.

this article is kinda BSing this:

Brendel ranked 12th in the NFL among all centers who played 700 or more snaps last season, per PFF’s blocking grades. McKivitz compiled solid grades, ranking 28th among all offensive tackles with 700 or more snaps.

that 12th PFF ranking is strictly run blocking, btw, in pass pro he ranked 51st out of 64 possible players.

but Kyle doesn't really give a **** about pass pro tbh which means he's perfectly fine with Brendel this season.

clyde21 · Post #725 » by **clyde21** » Thu Apr 3, 2025 7:58 pm

it's getting harder and harder to defend Kyle with his nonsense man, if he's not gonna put much effort into protecting the QB which means he doesn't really care why the **** are we even gonna pay this dude 50m+ a pop?

CrimsonCrew · Post #726 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Thu Apr 3, 2025 8:07 pm

clyde21 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:I hope Lynch is just blowing smoke about the offensive line. I can kind of understand Mckivitz but not Brendal. And not sure about where the article gets Brendel being ranked 12th with blocking. For 2024, Brendel had a PFF pass blocking score of 55 which is bad. Brendel is ranked among the bottom starting centers in the league.

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/nfl-annual-meeting-john-lynch-colton-mckivitz/1838916/

I think we're fine with McKivitz starting. He was alright last year. Same can't be said for Brendel. He disrupted the whole offense with his inept pass blocking left year.

this article is kinda BSing this:

Brendel ranked 12th in the NFL among all centers who played 700 or more snaps last season, per PFF’s blocking grades. McKivitz compiled solid grades, ranking 28th among all offensive tackles with 700 or more snaps.

that 12th PFF ranking is strictly run blocking, btw, in pass pro he ranked 51st out of 64 possible players.

but Kyle doesn't really give a **** about pass pro tbh which means he's perfectly fine with Brendel this season.

Yeah, so as you noted, the article is misleading. Brendel was 12th in run blocking among Cs with a score of 71.6. He was 51st in pass-blocking with a score of 55.1. His overall grade at a position with 32 starters was 23rd. McKivitz was 46th in run blocking among OTs, but his 68.6 grade isn't far behind Brendel's. He was 43rd in pass-blocking, with a 72.8 grade that destroys Brendel's. His overall rank at a position with 64 starters was 37th. I can't narrow those based on snaps, so maybe a bunch of the guys ahead of Brendel didn't play enough snaps.

Of the two, replacing Brendel has to be the priority. You can get by in the league with decent OL play at every spot. But one bad player can sink the entire OL. We saw that with Brendel last year. Can't do it again IMO, and if we do and it's a problem, there should be consequences for the FO.

Pattersonca65 · Post #727 » by **Pattersonca65** » Fri Apr 4, 2025 4:23 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
I think we're fine with McKivitz starting. He was alright last year. Same can't be said for Brendel. He disrupted the whole offense with his inept pass blocking left year.

this article is kinda BSing this:

Brendel ranked 12th in the NFL among all centers who played 700 or more snaps last season, per PFF’s blocking grades. McKivitz compiled solid grades, ranking 28th among all offensive tackles with 700 or more snaps.

that 12th PFF ranking is strictly run blocking, btw, in pass pro he ranked 51st out of 64 possible players.

but Kyle doesn't really give a **** about pass pro tbh which means he's perfectly fine with Brendel this season.

Yeah, so as you noted, the article is misleading. Brendel was 12th in run blocking among Cs with a score of 71.6. He was 51st in pass-blocking with a score of 55.1. His overall grade at a position with 32 starters was 23rd. McKivitz was 46th in run blocking among OTs, but his 68.6 grade isn't far behind Brendel's. He was 43rd in pass-blocking, with a 72.8 grade that destroys Brendel's. His overall rank at a position with 64 starters was 37th. I can't narrow those based on snaps, so maybe a bunch of the guys ahead of Brendel didn't play enough snaps.

Of the two, replacing Brendel has to be the priority. You can get by in the league with decent OL play at every spot. But one bad player can sink the entire OL. We saw that with Brendel last year. Can't do it again IMO, and if we do and it's a problem, there should be consequences for the FO.

According to Matt Maiocco, the 49ers are sticking with Brendel at center

Pattersonca65 · Post #728 » by **Pattersonca65** » Fri Apr 4, 2025 5:05 pm

Fans were freaking out over Schecter's post about Aiyuk not being ready till midseason but really what info did he really have or was it just speculation? Seems like an earlier return is possible. Seems too early to tell at this point in his recovery

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/brandon-aiyuk-injury-update-week-1/1839973/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJc77JleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHhkGcJVm23T-9USGXji8mRUrRohRR8qj-Kfa46XeF3wywEFK666btRQ6PLaM_aem_tMAwEuanxjcKOKZOwMilMg

CrimsonCrew · Post #729 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri Apr 4, 2025 9:46 pm

Trey Lance to the Chargers on a one-year deal. Not a bad situation for him, though he's unlikely to see any playing time. Power run scheme, QB-friendly system. Had to chuckle at this, though:

Lance gives the Chargers another competent backup option -- along with Heinicke, who appeared in four games last season -- if Herbert misses any time.

Does he? His NFL tenure to date does not scream competent. He's 1-4 in games in which he's had significant snaps. Never had any ill will toward the guy, but he's been downright almost every time he's stepped on the field.

Jikkle · Post #730 » by **Jikkle** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 8:45 am

clyde21 wrote:we're not drafting an OL in the 1st, and probably not even in the second unless there is crazy value there, people have to come to terms with that at this point lol

they'll take a LG in the 3rd/4th and maybe a developmental OT later and call it a day. calling it now.

I wouldn't completely rule out an OT at #11 because it's just such a difficult position to get elite play from later in the draft like you could with almost any other position outside of QB.

I still think odds are it'll be a front 4 defensive guy though.

But yeah I don't see them using a second on offensive line. Although a lot of these guys were crazy athletic when they were tested so I guess I wouldn't be completely shock if Shanahan falls in love with some of these guys drooling over the prospect of these guys getting to the 2nd level in the running game.

Jikkle · Post #731 » by **Jikkle** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 8:56 am

clyde21 wrote:it's getting harder and harder to defend Kyle with his nonsense man, if he's not gonna put much effort into protecting the QB which means he doesn't really care why the **** are we even gonna pay this dude 50m+ a pop?

I've defended Kyle's mindset in the past but I just think he takes it to the extremes.

Because offensive line gives you the worst return on investment over any position group. I mean you just look at the money guys like McGlinchey, Moore, and Banks got and it's obscene.

But I think his tunnel vision when it comes to run blocking with pass blocking a complete afterthought has cost us two Super Bowls at this point. McGlinchey was solely drafted because he was excellent getting to the 2nd level and blocking in space. It did not matter if he completely blew drives by getting worked over in pass protection at the worst possible times.

I would bet if you gave Shanahan the choice of having the guy that's 1st in run blocking but dead last in pass blocking or the guy that's 10th in run blocking and 5th in pass blocking he would choose the guy 1st in run blocking without hesitation.

Jikkle · Post #732 » by **Jikkle** » Mon Apr 7, 2025 10:28 am

Pattersonca65 wrote:https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/niners/2025/04/01/49ers-c-jake-brendel-wont-face-competition-for-starting-job/82767207007/

You have to look more at their actions than their words and last training camp they had Feliciano take 1st team snaps at C which tells me they were open to the idea of replacing him.

I don't think they would hesitate to yank Brendel out of there if someone on the roster is the better option.

It's just that we're not going to draft anyone that will take his job even if we do draft a C it would be to replace him next season so basically they are saying they aren't going to go out of their way to replace anyone on the offensive line except for LG since we lost Banks but I wouldn't interrupt that as the line being set in stone either.

CrimsonCrew · Post #733 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Mon Apr 7, 2025 4:15 pm

They have met with pretty much all the OT prospects, so it's at least on their radar this year. But far from certain they'll make that move at 11.

Pattersonca65 · Post #734 » by **Pattersonca65** » Mon Apr 7, 2025 5:09 pm

Jikkle wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/niners/2025/04/01/49ers-c-jake-brendel-wont-face-competition-for-starting-job/82767207007/

You have to look more at their actions than their words and last training camp they had Feliciano take 1st team snaps at C which tells me they were open to the idea of replacing him.

I don't think they would hesitate to yank Brendel out of there if someone on the roster is the better option.

It's just that we're not going to draft anyone that will take his job even if we do draft a C it would be to replace him next season so basically they are saying they aren't going to go out of their way to replace anyone on the offensive line except for LG since we lost Banks but I wouldn't interrupt that as the line being set in stone either.

There could be several reasons why a player might take snaps at Center and not necessarily as a competition for the job. Not much at center in the draft but they have a couple of centers on the roster. Overall it wouldn't be hard to replace Brendel's production if they really open to replacing him.