2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V

[Ghost of Kleine]

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I'd be all for bringing back Paul on a vet minimum as our backup point guard/ future coaching bench candidate?? Ideally, find a trade from the KD trade, sending some pieces to Washington for Marcus Smart. Move Booker back to SG with Smart starting at point guard defensively. Then, if actually attaching a 1st to Beal in a trade, which I'm adamantly against by the way.

BUT IF that's the intended plan, then aggressively look to trade Beal to Orlando for a package of Isaac/ Bidatze/ fillers OR to Utah (if he'd agree for Collins/ Sexton? Or to Chicago for Ball/ Vucevic/ Huerter. I might even consider taking back Williams if it means we'd give up fewer picks. We could give him a quick run next season, and if he doesn't show significant improvement, then Ishbia could stretch him (18 per annum over 3 years) or offer a buyout perhaps??

Because if attaching picks and trying to reload around Booker, either of those packages would help our positional depth tremendously.

[BobbieL]

I think I would rather have the JYD over Chris Paul. Dudley has been an assistant. Would trust him over Paul

But for the Suns - its all about three things
1) Ishbia practicing patience - even if they keep Booker
2) getting under the apron levels
3) maximizing a Durant trade and possibly offloading Allen &/or O"neal

Roster needs to be upgraded big time

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Why in giving up Bridges in the KD trade and then Camara in the Nurkic trade doomed us. We were never really legit contenders with our big three gimmick of trying to outscore everyone. Sure offense wins games, but defense wins championships!

[Revived]

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What a joke Ishbia has turned this franchise into.

[sunsfan1o1]

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PTO needs to stay off the marijuana. It doesn’t work for him.

[BobbieL]

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Why in giving up Bridges in the KD trade and then Camara in the Nurkic trade doomed us. We were never really legit contenders with our big three gimmick of trying to outscore everyone. Sure offense wins games, but defense wins championships!

Three reasons I wasn't including Bridges in the Durant trade
1) my favorite player in the league and on the team but the two more important reasons were

2) I thought including him was way too much with the other stuff especially when the Nets had one suitor only for KD
3) I thought he was the perfect fit next to Booker and Durant

[thamadkant]

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Why in giving up Bridges in the KD trade and then Camara in the Nurkic trade doomed us. We were never really legit contenders with our big three gimmick of trying to outscore everyone. Sure offense wins games, but defense wins championships!

There's a reason they always say defense wins championships.


Warriors dynasty is due to Green, Klay, Wiggins and role players playing immense defense.

[thamadkant]

Trading KD for picks and assets only to package some to unload Beal is the worst thing to do...

Hence this FO will definitely consider it.

[BobbieL]

Trading KD for picks and assets only to package some to unload Beal is the worst thing to do...

Hence this FO will definitely consider it.

Correct . Only way I am attaching a pick is if they trade Book Durant and either Oneale or Allen and get another late FRP

[Sunsdeuce]

Trading KD for picks and assets only to package some to unload Beal is the worst thing to do...

Hence this FO will definitely consider it.

Correct . Only way I am attaching a pick is if they trade Book Durant and either Oneale or Allen and get another late FRP

Ishbia destroyed this team in less than two years with minimal chances or avenues to building a winner within the next 5-10 years. lol, at least when Sarver inherited the team which was built by Bryan Colangelo, and was a contender, at least he rode that team till its death. And Sarver was a total scumbag and didn’t hide it. I feel like Ishbia is a total turd masquerading as a decent human being. Feeling like we got a richer version of Sarver except he’s willing to blow his whole fortune on his dumb ideas.

[SkyBill40]

We're not going to make the play in. What a damned joke. Ishbia needs to burn for this and it's a shame that the only way fans can hold owners accountable is to not buy tickets or renew season passes.

I went to one game this season, and early tilt against SAC. And the Suns, who lead most of the game, quit and let the Kings back in it and lost. That same SAC team is likely going to keep us out this time, too.

To hell with this team. Seriously. I said a lot of things about Robert Sarver over time but I'll be damned if I wouldn't take him back in an instant over this jackass.

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[BobbieL]

Trading KD for picks and assets only to package some to unload Beal is the worst thing to do...

Hence this FO will definitely consider it.

Correct . Only way I am attaching a pick is if they trade Book Durant and either Oneale or Allen and get another late FRP

Ishbia destroyed this team in less than two years with minimal chances or avenues to building a winner within the next 5-10 years. lol, at least when Sarver inherited the team which was built by Bryan Colangelo, and was a contender, at least he rode that team till its death. And Sarver was a total scumbag and didn’t hide it. I feel like Ishbia is a total turd masquerading as a decent human being. Feeling like we got a richer version of Sarver except he’s willing to blow his whole fortune on his dumb ideas.

I expect ishbia to do something stupid

Like Beal for Embiid

Or the Pincus trade
Durant to Houston
Young players to Utah
Markannen to Phoenix

Again “looking like he is trying”

[Hitachi77]

We're not going to make the play in. What a damned joke. Ishbia needs to burn for this and it's a shame that the only way fans can hold owners accountable is to not buy tickets or renew season passes.

I went to one game this season, and early tilt against SAC. And the Suns, who lead most of the game, quit and let the Kings back in it and lost. That same SAC team is likely going to keep us out this time, too.

To hell with this team. Seriously. I said a lot of things about Robert Sarver over time but I'll be damned if I wouldn't take him back in an instant over this jackass.

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Probably won’t make it, but it’s still a higher chance than it might appear. Kings have a very tough next 4 games. All teams jockeying for position. Even the Cavs haven’t clinched the conference yet. It’s possible they will lose all 4, in which case the Suns would only need to win the home game vs SA and that Kings game. The only other team that could mess that up is the Blazers, which apparently we lose out if it’s a 3 way tie with them and the Kings. But the Blazers seem to be tanking enough, otherwise they’d have more wins.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[Hitachi77]

This Warriors turn around has been crazy. They have a good chance at the 3 seed. I’d take them over anyone but OKC easily, and even over OKC maybe. They have way more experience. I might take them over Boston too. They kind of have Boston’s number even when they suck.

[Saberestar]

This Warriors turn around has been crazy. They have a good chance at the 3 seed. I’d take them over anyone but OKC easily, and even over OKC maybe. They have way more experience. I might take them over Boston too. They kind of have Boston’s number even when they suck.

It was crystal clear that Jimmy Butler would be a game changer and we would have been much better with him in Beal's place.

The trade was always a long shot because of Beal's NTC and his low value around the league, but our season and future would look much better than now.

5 games left. It’s gonna be interesting to see if KD can be back early enough to win some more games or the season is already over.

[Saberestar]

Trading KD for picks and assets only to package some to unload Beal is the worst thing to do...

Hence this FO will definitely consider it.

The idea is trading KD for a package that would help us now and in the future.

A package around an All-Star, borderline All-Star o future All-Star player, a young player and some picks or/and swaps.

That's why we agreed on trading him at the deadline. We got wat we needed from the GSW but they wanted KD on board with coming back to San Francisco.

The rumored trade was: Jimmy Butler (borderline All-Star player), Kuminga (young player), two picks and one swap (future).

So it's no putting ALL those positive assets that we could get for KD in the market next to Beal to ship him out. We could use one of those assets, no doubt about it, but obviously not most of the package.

I can't imagine the Rockets trading Jalen Green in a KD's trade. I know that Gambo keeps saying that the Rockets wants to trade him for his salary...but ****, he destroyed the Thunder yesterday.

[BobbieL]

We're not going to make the play in. What a damned joke. Ishbia needs to burn for this and it's a shame that the only way fans can hold owners accountable is to not buy tickets or renew season passes.

I went to one game this season, and early tilt against SAC. And the Suns, who lead most of the game, quit and let the Kings back in it and lost. That same SAC team is likely going to keep us out this time, too.

To hell with this team. Seriously. I said a lot of things about Robert Sarver over time but I'll be damned if I wouldn't take him back in an instant over this jackass.

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Probably won’t make it, but it’s still a higher chance than it might appear. Kings have a very tough next 4 games. All teams jockeying for position. Even the Cavs haven’t clinched the conference yet. It’s possible they will lose all 4, in which case the Suns would only need to win the home game vs SA and that Kings game. The only other team that could mess that up is the Blazers, which apparently we lose out if it’s a 3 way tie with them and the Kings. But the Blazers seem to be tanking enough, otherwise they’d have more wins.

Watched a lot of the Suns game last night - just because I was at happy hour with friends - it was on in the corner

Not sure how anybody can watch that game and think a Durant trade alone will be enough to turn the team around to build around Booker. I just don't see it. If the Suns think they can build around Booker - they are mistaken. He needs to go as much as Durant does to rebuild the roster

[BobbieL]

Trading KD for picks and assets only to package some to unload Beal is the worst thing to do...

Hence this FO will definitely consider it.

The idea is trading KD for a package that would help us now and in the future.

A package around an All-Star, borderline All-Star o future All-Star player, a young player and some picks or/and swaps.

That's why we agreed on trading him at the deadline. We got wat we needed from the GSW but they wanted KD on board with coming back to San Francisco.

The rumored trade was: Jimmy Butler (borderline All-Star player), Kuminga (young player), two picks and one swap (future).

So it's no putting ALL those positive assets that we could get for KD in the market next to Beal to ship him out. We could use one of those assets, no doubt about it, but obviously not most of the package.

I can't imagine the Rockets trading Jalen Green in a KD's trade. I know that Gambo keeps saying that the Rockets wants to trade him for his salary...but ****, he destroyed the Thunder yesterday.

Jalen Green makes more sense in a Booker to Houston trade . Granted, they still have Reed Sheppard if they traded Durant for a package centered around Green. Booker and Green again play the same position. How is that different than Beal and Booker playing together - meaning allocation of resources

At some point -- building a roster has to come into player. Complementary players.