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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#1921 » by Dan Z » Fri Apr 4, 2025 6:45 am

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I’d draft the best guy. I think Queen and Khaman will be gone at 10 anyway (assuming we don’t go back to 12).


Egor’s ceiling is nice:

https://youtu.be/3aYtZj9w6uI?si=VcEZY-Of1PjuwayD

What’s wrong with developing another triple-double? Looks like a Billy PF to me anyway. That handle and vision for 6’9 is excellent. Either way he’d be a 3Y project.

I like Malauch as a prospect, regardless of our need for rim protection. Been sold. But I see him as a 20 MPG prospect. Chance he’ll be too weak to defend Cs. I don’t know for sure, but it’s a risk. If he can’t defend the NBA post-up, he’ll be unplayable at PF obviously, so he’s a position-less risk (bad kind) until he gains strength (probable) or offensive skills (ambiguous). Fine 10-14 pick imo. But I’d put Egor in strong consideration.

Ultimately I think AK doesn’t believe in 1-way defenders at C. I think he’d rather die on the Vuc hill. Obviously Vuc’s very bad. You can get away with a mediocre defensive C. But it’s very hard to win with a terrible offensive C with 0 on-ball skills these days. You’re pretty much better off playing a dinosaur (Horford), a tweener (DJJ). Bam, Chet, Wemby are good ball-handlers.


Giddey looking like his max self isn't considered a #1 and also questions persist how he would look without being the lead ball handler. Why would you want another similar guy who most likely won't get to Giddeys level? Would they even be playable at the same time?

No one believes in one way defense centers. Khaman has way more upside then that. His ultimate upside is Wemby. More realistic is Gobert with perimeter play. Even low development makes him playable with a 7'8" standing reach. Him hitting big time depends on his work ethic, but seems like a good kid. Draft workouts will likely push him outside of the Bulls range anyway.


Malauch’s upside is Wemby? No, it’s not. Wemby was the best prospect since Lebron. Malauch averages 0.1 3Ps a game, 1.4 FTs, and mostly catches lobs for dunks on 16% usage.

Giddey and Lonzo are playable. Terry’s been playable with Giddey. It doesn’t matter who Giddey plays with- he needs to play well (cough, make shots) or else he’s a waste of a starting spot, and if you draft Egon, he needs to play well too (cough shoot) or else he’s no good with whoever he plays with.


If Malauch had Wemby's upside then he'd be in consideration for the number 1 pick. But he doesn't have the level of ability and that's okay. He can still be a good player (I'm just not sold on him, but that's my two cents).

I'm also not sold on Demin because I'm not sure about his shooting and think the Bulls could better use their pick on someone else. Who that is....I have no idea. Someone in their range will be good, but it's not easy to find them.

Last year picks 10-12 were: Cody Williams, Matas, and Nikola Topic.

The year before that: Cason Wallace, Jett Howard and Dereck Lively.

And the year before that: Johnny Davis, Ousmane Dieng and Jalen Williams.
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Post#1922 » by Rose2Boozer » Fri Apr 4, 2025 7:10 am

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Post#1924 » by Infinity2152 » Fri Apr 4, 2025 5:54 pm

Maluach looks to be one of the safest prospects maybe available around 10. Ironically, center is the most crowded position on the Bulls right now effectively, because most of ours only play center. Even if we're able to move one of Vucevic or Collins, we're still left with the other one and Smith at center. We'd have to move two for him to even see the floor, or waste Smith who probably gets the short stick.

Any guys who watch a lot of college basketball, any underrated players who have that IT factor? Like the Jimmy Butler intensity, D Wade aggressiveness, fire, heart, whatever you want to call it? Or like Giddey, I think his intangibles, energy and will are underrated and make his athleticism less important. Or players with extremely high basketball IQ/elite skills. Jokic might be another example. Not opposed to drafting a 20-21 year old who has shown they know how to play basketball but drops because of age/perceived athleticism.
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Post#1925 » by DuckIII » Fri Apr 4, 2025 6:11 pm

Please stop saying Maluach has anything even remotely resembling Wemby's upside. Its silly. Wemby is the greatest basketball prospect of all time, and has natural assets Maluach (and all other humans) can only dream about.

I’d still love to leave this draft with Maluach, but one has nothing to do with the other.
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Post#1926 » by League Circles » Fri Apr 4, 2025 6:24 pm

Can Newell play C long term for us?
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Post#1927 » by 2weekswithpay » Fri Apr 4, 2025 6:35 pm

League Circles wrote:Can Newell play C long term for us?


It's unlikely. Newell isn't a good defensive rebounder and is undersized at the 5.
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Post#1928 » by Lexluthor » Fri Apr 4, 2025 9:50 pm

DuckIII wrote:Please stop saying Maluach has anything even remotely resembling Wemby's upside. Its silly. Wemby is the greatest basketball prospect of all time, and has natural assets Maluach (and all other humans) can only dream about.

Its still love to leave this draft with Maluach, but one has nothing to do with the other.

People are overrating wemby . I would take a young Tim Duncan and David Robinson over him . Remember the spurs won a championship in Tim Duncan Second year in the league . Tim Duncan never played on a losing team .
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Post#1929 » by Lexluthor » Fri Apr 4, 2025 9:54 pm

DuckIII wrote:Please stop saying Maluach has anything even remotely resembling Wemby's upside. Its silly. Wemby is the greatest basketball prospect of all time, and has natural assets Maluach (and all other humans) can only dream about.

Its still love to leave this draft with Maluach, but one has nothing to do with the other.

Im sorry people are overrrating Wemby . I would gladly take a young Tim Duncan or David Robinson . Plus he already has potential career / life threating concerns . Give me those two over him
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Post#1930 » by Rose2Boozer » Sat Apr 5, 2025 3:18 am

League Circles wrote:Can Newell play C long term for us?


Newell will more than likely measure out similar to Noah(6'10.5 w/o shoes, 232lbs), so yes I think he can play the center position. Billy Donovan has given Matas minutes at the five. I would start Newell's career at the four, and move him to the five after a season or two.
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Post#1931 » by NecessaryEvil » Sat Apr 5, 2025 3:23 am

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I hope we don’t draft this guy lol
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Post#1932 » by Rose2Boozer » Sat Apr 5, 2025 4:48 am

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I hope we don’t draft this guy lol


He'll be a great pick for the Blazers. They could use his shooting and secondary playmaking.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#1933 » by Ice Man » Sat Apr 5, 2025 11:22 am

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I hope we don’t draft this guy lol


I think he will have a nice NBA career as a shooting guard. Might be a BPA pick for us, but obviously he doesn't fit our current need for defenders.
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Post#1934 » by DuckIII » Sat Apr 5, 2025 2:12 pm

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I hope we don’t draft this guy lol


I think he will have a nice NBA career as a shooting guard. Might be a BPA pick for us, but obviously he doesn't fit our current need for defenders.


Ideally we want versatile and mobile defenders around Giddey and Coby. Matas will be a plus defender, so he is one of them.

But I gotta say, given the Bulls situation and the likelihood we will get at most two more drafts with lottery picks, and none that will likely land near the top of the draft, I’m perfectly fine with the Bulls going in wildly creative and unusual directions.

As such, I’m totally fine and even excited about adding smart, skilled, unselfish offense-only guys like Kon and Demin even though they don’t fit what we need defensively.

Basically what I’m saying is **** it. There are no imperatives for me. Try to score 160 a game with 40 assists. Or go more traditional and focus on adding defenders. I have preferences, but I don’t recall a draft in which I’m so wide open to so many guys. I have a few I don’t want (Newell among them), but would be okay with a variety of outcomes.
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Post#1935 » by pipfan » Sat Apr 5, 2025 2:15 pm

I like Newell too-play Matas at the 3 long term and be bigger
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#1936 » by Jcool0 » Sat Apr 5, 2025 4:47 pm

MrSparkle wrote:
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I’d draft the best guy. I think Queen and Khaman will be gone at 10 anyway (assuming we don’t go back to 12).


Egor’s ceiling is nice:

https://youtu.be/3aYtZj9w6uI?si=VcEZY-Of1PjuwayD

What’s wrong with developing another triple-double? Looks like a Billy PF to me anyway. That handle and vision for 6’9 is excellent. Either way he’d be a 3Y project.

I like Malauch as a prospect, regardless of our need for rim protection. Been sold. But I see him as a 20 MPG prospect. Chance he’ll be too weak to defend Cs. I don’t know for sure, but it’s a risk. If he can’t defend the NBA post-up, he’ll be unplayable at PF obviously, so he’s a position-less risk (bad kind) until he gains strength (probable) or offensive skills (ambiguous). Fine 10-14 pick imo. But I’d put Egor in strong consideration.

Ultimately I think AK doesn’t believe in 1-way defenders at C. I think he’d rather die on the Vuc hill. Obviously Vuc’s very bad. You can get away with a mediocre defensive C. But it’s very hard to win with a terrible offensive C with 0 on-ball skills these days. You’re pretty much better off playing a dinosaur (Horford), a tweener (DJJ). Bam, Chet, Wemby are good ball-handlers.


Giddey looking like his max self isn't considered a #1 and also questions persist how he would look without being the lead ball handler. Why would you want another similar guy who most likely won't get to Giddeys level? Would they even be playable at the same time?

No one believes in one way defense centers. Khaman has way more upside then that. His ultimate upside is Wemby. More realistic is Gobert with perimeter play. Even low development makes him playable with a 7'8" standing reach. Him hitting big time depends on his work ethic, but seems like a good kid. Draft workouts will likely push him outside of the Bulls range anyway.


Malauch’s upside is Wemby? No, it’s not. Wemby was the best prospect since Lebron. Malauch averages 0.1 3Ps a game, 1.4 FTs, and mostly catches lobs for dunks on 16% usage.

Giddey and Lonzo are playable. Terry’s been playable with Giddey. It doesn’t matter who Giddey plays with- he needs to play well (cough, make shots) or else he’s a waste of a starting spot, and if you draft Egon, he needs to play well too (cough shoot) or else he’s no good with whoever he plays with.


Yes he has Wemby upside. Also Cooper Flagg could be the next LeBron. Will he get to that level probably not. Just like Malauch probably isn't going to be the next Wemby. I did say the more realistic outcome is Gobert but not surprisingly you ignored that part. Kharman needs a lot of developing, but he is a 7'2" center with a 7'8" reach & for the 1 millionth time, Duke is limiting him. There goal is the National Title, not to have him developing all aspects of his game. If they did he might be going #2. Maluach shot four threes per 36 minutes for his team in the Basketball Africa League, where he was a pro from ages 15 to 17. His percentages in the BAL were good for age and position, 32% on 57 attempts. This isn't Clingan last year and hypothetical 3 point shooting. Kharman has done it at the professional level. And FWIW his attempts might be low from the line but he's hitting them at 76%. He has good shooting form.

Not sure what Giddey playing with those guys has to do with anything. Also the way Egon is playing now with his lack of offensive game, I doubt Billy let's him see the floor much.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#1937 » by Rose2Boozer » Sat Apr 5, 2025 5:05 pm

pipfan wrote:I like Newell too-play Matas at the 3 long term and be bigger
White/Giddey/Matas/Newell/Collins


Vucevic will be the starting center next season.
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Post#1938 » by Jcool0 » Sat Apr 5, 2025 5:07 pm

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I hope we don’t draft this guy lol


I think he will have a nice NBA career as a shooting guard. Might be a BPA pick for us, but obviously he doesn't fit our current need for defenders.


Ideally we want versatile and mobile defenders around Giddey and Coby. Matas will be a plus defender, so he is one of them.

But I gotta say, given the Bulls situation and the likelihood we will get at most two more drafts with lottery picks, and none that will likely land near the top of the draft, I’m perfectly fine with the Bulls going in wildly creative and unusual directions.

As such, I’m totally fine and even excited about adding smart, skilled, unselfish offense-only guys like Kon and Demin even though they don’t fit what we need defensively.

Basically what I’m saying is **** it. There are no imperatives for me. Try to score 160 a game with 40 assists. Or go more traditional and focus on adding defenders. I have preferences, but I don’t recall a draft in which I’m so wide open to so many guys. I have a few I don’t want (Newell among them), but would be okay with a variety of outcomes.


You are replacing Huerter with Kon. They are pretty similar players. Look at what Huerter is doing +8.8 OnCourt rating with the Bulls & +9 +/- over his last 18 games while shooting 37% from 3 and 3.1 assists . I think that contribution is just as important as being a candidate for All Defensive team.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#1939 » by WesPeace » Sat Apr 5, 2025 5:30 pm

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League Circles wrote:Can Newell play C long term for us?


It's unlikely. Newell isn't a good defensive rebounder and is undersized at the 5.


In this modern NBA? Of course he can play C.. Undersized with 6'10? also not really! We see players with 6'8 and 6'9 playing small ball C, heck Billy D played 6'6 Jones there and 6'7 Liddell.
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Post#1940 » by Chi town » Sat Apr 5, 2025 5:35 pm

From THT Thread…

Beringer is my guy! Elite athleticism and size with a motor that doesn’t stop. He’d be crazy with Giddey.

I think he goes 15 - 25. I’d take him at 15 if that’s where we land.

I’d trade Ayo for a late first (BKN has 4 1sts) and draft Beringer’s teammate Penda. Kid is an exceptional defender at 6’8 and very crafty on offense. A lot like Camara.

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