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Re: 2025 Cap Primer 

Post#41 » by Indeed » Sat Feb 8, 2025 2:44 am

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Tripod wrote:What do you think he stats with?

a little less than what Pascal got.

$38.65m which will 25% of the cap

edit: 4 years $170m 38/41/44/47


I don't think he takes a paycut either. If he starts at $34m with 8% raises he'll average around 23.5% of the cap over the life of the contract, which is a pay decrease. Ingram is probably looking for, at the very least, the same contract as he got last time which is the 25% you quoted above.


Indeed, even though there may only be 3 teams can sign him around that money, but I think he will ask for more than 34m.
We are definitely over the tax.

We might decide on any trade based on our record, but would not be surprised we make some trades during next year trade deadline.
If the starting lineup works, I think we might trade Agbaji.
Otherwise, and to me more likely, the starting lineup will be changed, and we are not going to pay a starting salary off the bench.
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Re: 2025 Cap Primer 

Post#42 » by Shakril » Sat Feb 8, 2025 1:08 pm

Ingrams contract will have ramifications for the rest of the team. next year many contracts of rather cheap players are up and i doubt we can resign them to similar cheap contracts. And the biggest one that is up next is Poeltl. He will definitly want a contract as big as RJs is now. We could have that our top 5 players, push us far over the cap, which is not ideal. I am pretty sure that either RJ or Poeltl or both are gone, if BIs Contract is a big one (40mil or more per year)
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Re: 2025 Cap Primer 

Post#43 » by bluerap23 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 11:24 pm

If rumours are true that BI is signing an extension in the AAV range of 40M.
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Post#44 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Apr 5, 2025 10:26 pm

bluerap23 wrote:If rumours are true that BI is signing an extension in the AAV range of 40M.
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Looks like BI is starting at 38,095,238
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Re: 2025 Cap Primer 

Post#45 » by TimeForChange » Sat Apr 5, 2025 10:30 pm

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bluerap23 wrote:If rumours are true that BI is signing an extension in the AAV range of 40M.
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Looks like BI is starting at 38,095,238

https://www.capsheets.com/toronto-raptors-cap-sheet/
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Re: 2025 Cap Primer 

Post#46 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Apr 5, 2025 10:45 pm

TimeForChange wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
bluerap23 wrote:If rumours are true that BI is signing an extension in the AAV range of 40M.
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Looks like BI is starting at 38,095,238

https://www.capsheets.com/toronto-raptors-cap-sheet/


Not updated for next year
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https://www.spotrac.com/nba/toronto-raptors/yearly
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Re: 2025 Cap Primer 

Post#47 » by Thaddy » Sat Apr 5, 2025 10:54 pm

You can see they are showcasing RJ to a degree. He's playing with the rookies and bench mob for a reason and it definitely isn't to win games.

RJ should have a higher value than he did before he was on our team. They should be looking to sell him for expirings and a few picks. Poeltl is valued higher than him considering how we stuck with him through the rebuild year.

I'm guessing they attempt to low ball him on an extension. If he declines and wants to test the market they'll ship him out and give the starting role to one of Agbaji, Dick, and maybe even Walter.

I would somewhat bet on Agbaji starting next year. They'll want to get a look at how he fits and he'll be a RFA which will help us not over bid as we usually do.
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Post#48 » by Tripod » Sat Apr 5, 2025 11:23 pm

We should not just discard a 24 year old capable of 21+pts.
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Post#49 » by youngRAPZ » Sun Apr 6, 2025 12:06 am

Thaddy wrote:You can see they are showcasing RJ to a degree. He's playing with the rookies and bench mob for a reason and it definitely isn't to win games.

RJ should have a higher value than he did before he was on our team. They should be looking to sell him for expirings and a few picks. Poeltl is valued higher than him considering how we stuck with him through the rebuild year.

I'm guessing they attempt to low ball him on an extension. If he declines and wants to test the market they'll ship him out and give the starting role to one of Agbaji, Dick, and maybe even Walter.

I would somewhat bet on Agbaji starting next year. They'll want to get a look at how he fits and he'll be a RFA which will help us not over bid as we usually do.

I think you’re reading a little too much into it. They are likely going to let RJ hit the bench early and come back in to run bench lineups next season.


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Post#50 » by ArthurVandelay » Sun Apr 6, 2025 2:10 am

Tripod wrote:We should not just discard a 24 year old capable of 21+pts.


RJ going to be 6th man and eventually sign a team friendly deal ($25m per) to stay home and win a championship.

It’s happening.
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Re: 2025 Cap Primer 

Post#51 » by GoRapstheoriginal » Sun Apr 6, 2025 3:06 am

ArthurVandelay wrote:
Tripod wrote:We should not just discard a 24 year old capable of 21+pts.


RJ going to be 6th man and eventually sign a team friendly deal ($25m per) to stay home and win a championship.

It’s happening.


Now your cooking!! #teampositivepolly!
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Re: 2025 Cap Primer 

Post#52 » by Indeed » Sun Apr 6, 2025 5:01 am

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Thaddy wrote:You can see they are showcasing RJ to a degree. He's playing with the rookies and bench mob for a reason and it definitely isn't to win games.

RJ should have a higher value than he did before he was on our team. They should be looking to sell him for expirings and a few picks. Poeltl is valued higher than him considering how we stuck with him through the rebuild year.

I'm guessing they attempt to low ball him on an extension. If he declines and wants to test the market they'll ship him out and give the starting role to one of Agbaji, Dick, and maybe even Walter.

I would somewhat bet on Agbaji starting next year. They'll want to get a look at how he fits and he'll be a RFA which will help us not over bid as we usually do.

I think you’re reading a little too much into it. They are likely going to let RJ hit the bench early and come back in to run bench lineups next season.


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Unless you believe Ingram and Quickley can score enough with a starting lineup consists of two non-shooters at PF and C.
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Re: 2025 Cap Primer 

Post#53 » by youngRAPZ » Sun Apr 6, 2025 5:03 am

Indeed wrote:
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Thaddy wrote:You can see they are showcasing RJ to a degree. He's playing with the rookies and bench mob for a reason and it definitely isn't to win games.

RJ should have a higher value than he did before he was on our team. They should be looking to sell him for expirings and a few picks. Poeltl is valued higher than him considering how we stuck with him through the rebuild year.

I'm guessing they attempt to low ball him on an extension. If he declines and wants to test the market they'll ship him out and give the starting role to one of Agbaji, Dick, and maybe even Walter.

I would somewhat bet on Agbaji starting next year. They'll want to get a look at how he fits and he'll be a RFA which will help us not over bid as we usually do.

I think you’re reading a little too much into it. They are likely going to let RJ hit the bench early and come back in to run bench lineups next season.


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Unless you believe Ingram and Quickley can score enough with a starting lineup consists of two non-shooters at PF and C.

Huh?


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Re: 2025 Cap Primer 

Post#54 » by Indeed » Sun Apr 6, 2025 5:05 am

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youngRAPZ wrote:I think you’re reading a little too much into it. They are likely going to let RJ hit the bench early and come back in to run bench lineups next season.


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Unless you believe Ingram and Quickley can score enough with a starting lineup consists of two non-shooters at PF and C.

Huh?


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Re: 2025 Cap Primer 

Post#55 » by youngRAPZ » Sun Apr 6, 2025 5:06 am

Indeed wrote:
youngRAPZ wrote:
Indeed wrote:
Unless you believe Ingram and Quickley can score enough with a starting lineup consists of two non-shooters at PF and C.

Huh?


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Huh?

Brother you quoted me talking about 4 players that wasn’t mentioned in my post or the post I responded too. I don’t understand what you’re talking about.


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Re: 2025 Cap Primer 

Post#56 » by Indeed » Sun Apr 6, 2025 11:10 am

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Indeed wrote:
youngRAPZ wrote:Huh?


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Huh?

Brother you quoted me talking about 4 players that wasn’t mentioned in my post or the post I responded too. I don’t understand what you’re talking about.


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Putting Barrett to the bench means the other 4 players are the starters, right?
So the question is the other 4 players have enough scoring. How this isn't related?

Meanwhile, I just don't see you got enough scoring from the starting lineup, or you drafted Flagg and play some players out of their position, which creates other problems.
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Post#57 » by youngRAPZ » Sun Apr 6, 2025 11:52 am

Indeed wrote:
youngRAPZ wrote:
Indeed wrote:
Huh?

Brother you quoted me talking about 4 players that wasn’t mentioned in my post or the post I responded too. I don’t understand what you’re talking about.


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Putting Barrett to the bench means the other 4 players are the starters, right?
So the question is the other 4 players have enough scoring. How this isn't related?

Meanwhile, I just don't see you got enough scoring from the starting lineup, or you drafted Flagg and play some players out of their position, which creates other problems.

Brother you need to learn to read. I never said Barrett is going to the bench. I said he is going to start and then goto the bench early and come back in to lead bench lineups kinda like Lowry.

So yeh whatever it is you’re saying doesn’t make sense to “me”.

Yes a lineup of

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Walter/Agbagi/Dick
BI3
Barnes
Jak

Has enough scoring on it to be a starting lineup in the event they choose not to start Barrett. Not sure what Barnes and Jak not being able to shoot the 3 has anything to do with how much points that lineup can score. Not to mention Barnes is shooting 35% from the corners this terrible season so if he sticks to that and no more above the break pull ups I’m certain we would be just fine.

THERE IS ONLY ONE BALL!

Again I never said Barrett is going to be a 6th man that was created by your own mind.


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Re: 2025 Cap Primer 

Post#58 » by Indeed » Sun Apr 6, 2025 1:12 pm

youngRAPZ wrote:
Indeed wrote:
youngRAPZ wrote:Brother you quoted me talking about 4 players that wasn’t mentioned in my post or the post I responded too. I don’t understand what you’re talking about.


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Putting Barrett to the bench means the other 4 players are the starters, right?
So the question is the other 4 players have enough scoring. How this isn't related?

Meanwhile, I just don't see you got enough scoring from the starting lineup, or you drafted Flagg and play some players out of their position, which creates other problems.

Brother you need to learn to read. I never said Barrett is going to the bench. I said he is going to start and then goto the bench early and come back in to lead bench lineups kinda like Lowry.

So yeh whatever it is you’re saying doesn’t make sense to “me”.

Yes a lineup of

IQ
Walter/Agbagi/Dick
BI3
Barnes
Jak

Has enough scoring on it to be a starting lineup in the event they choose not to start Barrett. Not sure what Barnes and Jak not being able to shoot the 3 has anything to do with how much points that lineup can score. Not to mention Barnes is shooting 35% from the corners this terrible season so if he sticks to that and no more above the break pull ups I’m certain we would be just fine.

THERE IS ONLY ONE BALL!

Again I never said Barrett is going to be a 6th man that was created by your own mind.


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I see. I thought early means early season.

Meanwhile, having Barnes only shoot the corner 3 means Quickley and Ingram took all the usage, which is unlikely to keep their efficiency. You need another scorer. The concern has been defense, but that would be the trade off for having Barnes who is not spacing the floor (his corner 3s are not often being contested).

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