2024-25 NBA MVP Discussion Thread (Pt. 4: Who is the MVP?)

Infinite Llamas · Post #822 » by **Infinite Llamas** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 1:32 am

Jamaaliver wrote:

Malone can’t coach. He just counts down the minutes to start the 2nd and 4th quarters until he can put Jokic back in. This man owes Jokic everything.

SpurNani · Post #823 » by **SpurNani** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 2:07 am

Denver is 14-20 on the season vs teams with winning records.

4 of those wins vs winning teams this year have come in games when Jokic didn't play.

All time great offensive season, yes, but not my MVP.

littlerock2277 · Post #824 » by **littlerock2277** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 2:53 am

Denver has a real shot of falling to the playin Tournament. That might affect Joker odds at winning MVP if Denver keeps struggling like this.

Castle Black · Post #825 » by **Castle Black** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 5:38 am

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Statlanta · Post #826 » by **Statlanta** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 12:38 pm

Post #827 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 3:52 pm

SpurNani wrote:Denver is 14-20 on the season vs teams with winning records.

4 of those wins vs winning teams this year have come in games when Jokic didn't play.

All time great offensive season, yes, but not my MVP.

This isn't a particularly strong case for or against anyone...

:dontknow:

Exp0sed · Post #828 » by **Exp0sed** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 4:56 pm

SpurNani wrote:Denver is 14-20 on the season vs teams with winning records.

4 of those wins vs winning teams this year have come in games when Jokic didn't play.

All time great offensive season, yes, but not my MVP.

all time great offensive season? u mean someone has done better than transforming the worst offense in NBA history to the best offense in history while he's on the court? huh..

SpurNani · Post #829 » by **SpurNani** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 8:11 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
SpurNani wrote:Denver is 14-20 on the season vs teams with winning records.

4 of those wins vs winning teams this year have come in games when Jokic didn't play.

All time great offensive season, yes, but not my MVP.

This isn't a particularly strong case for or against anyone...

So how would you feel giving MVP to a guy who has only won 10 games against winning teams all year while he’s been on the court.

SpurNani · Post #830 » by **SpurNani** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 9:48 pm

Remember Jokic fans tried to convince anyone who would listen how the Thunder are the best team in NBA history with SGA, and without him they would still make the playoffs.

Yeah back to back 20 pt losses. That’s still a young team that relies on it’s amazing defense but has no proven 2nd option, which we know can be a fatal flaw in the playoffs. SGA elevates that team his impact can’t be overstated

Snake3 · Post #831 » by **Snake3** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 9:54 pm

SpurNani wrote:Remember Jokic fans tried to convince anyone who would listen how the Thunder are the best team in NBA history with SGA, and without him they would still make the playoffs.

Yeah back to back 20 pt losses. That’s still a young team that relies on it’s amazing defense but has no proven 2nd option, which we know can be a fatal flaw in the playoffs. SGA elevates that team his impact can’t be overstated

Both things can be true. They could still go to the playoffs without SGA and SGA elevates them to historic lvls in the regular season. But they are young. We’ll see how much they will affect them.

Tracymcgoaty · Post #832 » by **Tracymcgoaty** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:04 pm

Im here to pledge my allegiance to Jokic for MVP.

That is all. I've never cared about the MVP but man watching SGA and watching Jokic...It's **** Jokic.

ITS THE YOKEL

Special_Puppy · Post #833 » by **Special_Puppy** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:04 pm

Jokic guys still in here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroo_Onoda

SpurNani · Post #834 » by **SpurNani** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:05 pm

Snake3 wrote:
SpurNani wrote:Remember Jokic fans tried to convince anyone who would listen how the Thunder are the best team in NBA history with SGA, and without him they would still make the playoffs.

Yeah back to back 20 pt losses. That’s still a young team that relies on it’s amazing defense but has no proven 2nd option, which we know can be a fatal flaw in the playoffs. SGA elevates that team his impact can’t be overstated

Both things can be true. They could still go to the playoffs without SGA and SGA elevates them to historic lvls in the regular season. But they are young. We’ll see how much they will affect them.

They would be extremely limited offensively without SGA, it would be painful to watch. Neither Chet or Jdub have taken the next step offensively. I could see them winning maybe 30 games without Shai, but the hyperbole from Jokic manfans, who swear SGA is surrounded by the most talented stacked team of all time is ridiculous.

RRR3 · Post #835 » by **RRR3** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:11 pm

Tracymcgoaty wrote:Im here to pledge my allegiance to Jokic for MVP.

That is all. I've never cared about the MVP but man watching SGA and watching Jokic...It's **** Jokic.

ITS THE YOKEL

You were literally saying Jokic was GOAT in another thread, opinion discarded.

Although granted he definitely looks like the GOAT when your coach is Darvin Ham

Tracymcgoaty · Post #836 » by **Tracymcgoaty** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:13 pm

RRR3 wrote:
Tracymcgoaty wrote:Im here to pledge my allegiance to Jokic for MVP.

That is all. I've never cared about the MVP but man watching SGA and watching Jokic...It's **** Jokic.

ITS THE YOKEL

You were literally saying Jokic was GOAT in another thread, opinion discarded.

Although granted he definitely looks like the GOAT when your coach is Darvin Ham

I said if he wins a title with Brodie he's the undisputed goat :lol:

that title alone is worth 6 titles.

I gotta beat the other team and the KGB spy on my own team.

But i do call the Yokel the goat whenever i see him play. But thats more spur of the moment type thing. If he wins a title with brodie im 100% on the Jokic is the goat train.

SpurNani · Post #837 » by **SpurNani** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:18 pm

Tracymcgoaty wrote:Im here to pledge my allegiance to Jokic for MVP.

That is all. I've never cared about the MVP but man watching SGA and watching Jokic...It's **** Jokic.

ITS THE YOKEL

Best player and MVP are two different things

Shai wasn't even the best player on the court today, it was Luka. But Shai is MVP.

Learn the difference.

Marvin Martian · Post #838 » by **Marvin Martian** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:21 pm

What's going with SGA? That's 2 straight games without going to the ft line. Has he been figured out?

Snake3 · Post #839 » by **Snake3** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:21 pm

SpurNani wrote:
Snake3 wrote:
SpurNani wrote:Remember Jokic fans tried to convince anyone who would listen how the Thunder are the best team in NBA history with SGA, and without him they would still make the playoffs.

Yeah back to back 20 pt losses. That’s still a young team that relies on it’s amazing defense but has no proven 2nd option, which we know can be a fatal flaw in the playoffs. SGA elevates that team his impact can’t be overstated

Both things can be true. They could still go to the playoffs without SGA and SGA elevates them to historic lvls in the regular season. But they are young. We’ll see how much they will affect them.

They would be extremely limited offensively without SGA, it would be painful to watch. Neither Chet or Jdub have taken the next step offensively. I could see them winning maybe 30 games without Shai, but the hyperbole from Jokic manfans, who swear SGA is surrounded by the most talented stacked team of all time is ridiculous.

I think they would similar to the Magic. Great defensively, but not great offensively. They could still make the playoffs. Like I don’t imagine them being worse than the Kings or Suns this year. But they aren’t the most talented team in the league. That’s Boston for me. OKC is stacked defensively tho. And the FO did a great job at roster constructing. SGA contributes to the offense a lot. And if they are missing something, they have the assets to trade for.

SpurNani · Post #840 » by **SpurNani** » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:28 pm

Snake3 wrote:
SpurNani wrote:
Snake3 wrote:
Both things can be true. They could still go to the playoffs without SGA and SGA elevates them to historic lvls in the regular season. But they are young. We’ll see how much they will affect them.

They would be extremely limited offensively without SGA, it would be painful to watch. Neither Chet or Jdub have taken the next step offensively. I could see them winning maybe 30 games without Shai, but the hyperbole from Jokic manfans, who swear SGA is surrounded by the most talented stacked team of all time is ridiculous.

I think they would similar to the Magic. Great defensively, but not great offensively. They could still make the playoffs. Like I don’t imagine them being worse than the Kings or Suns this year. But they aren’t the most talented team in the league. That’s Boston for me. OKC is stacked defensively tho. And the FO did a great job at roster constructing. SGA contributes to the offense a lot. And if they are missing something, they have the assets to trade for.

Me personally I would also put Cleveland above OKC from a talent perspective.

but yeah without SGA, i could see them around where Portland is at this year. But not a playoff team, especially if in this hypothetical world that Jokic fans love to live in, Wemby and Kyrie are healthy i cant even put them above Dallas and SA.

Who gets your vote for the 2024-25 NBA MVP award?