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2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#961 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Apr 6, 2025 9:25 pm

DayofMourning wrote:Davion/Fears
Herro/Larsson
KD/Wiggins
Bam/Fleming
Ware/?

Thats our best build atm.

Wiggins will have to be dealt if you want KD. Cap situation.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#962 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Apr 6, 2025 9:52 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:Davion/Fears
Herro/Larsson
KD/Wiggins
Bam/Fleming
Ware/?

Thats our best build atm.

Wiggins will have to be dealt if you want KD. Cap situation.


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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#963 » by Enso » Sun Apr 6, 2025 9:53 pm

Sup fellas. Gonna stick around here from now on I tend to go a little too far in the GB lol coped myself a ban.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#964 » by Beenie » Sun Apr 6, 2025 9:57 pm

SoFlaKingReal wrote:
Beenie wrote:Here’s the only math that matters, Mia would get swept if they happened to stumble into the playoffs

Most of the pro playoff advocates will inevitably be changing the channel at halftime each game when Mia is down by 30 against Clev or Bos


Heat need to make the playoffs this year so they can start a proper rebuild without owing two future unprotected picks. Can't begin the necessary tank if we owe our pick to OKC next year.


Imo, need need to miss the playoffs and use their two picks this season to either jumpstart their rebuild now or package them for a star (long shot)

And if they decide to do a full tear down (my preference) they can move Bam in the offseason and get 4ish future first rounders to add onto the two they have this year.

Can also move Herro for at least 2 more picks.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#965 » by Kobewade11 » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:23 pm

Beenie wrote:Here’s the only math that matters, Mia would get swept if they happened to stumble into the playoffs

Most of the pro playoff advocates will inevitably be changing the channel at halftime each game when Mia is down by 30 against Clev or Bos


Playoff experience would be good for most of this group, even if it results in a first round exit.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#966 » by VaDe255 » Sun Apr 6, 2025 11:01 pm

vagelis wrote:
VaDe255 wrote:
vagelis wrote:
Heat will win atleast 3 of the 4 remaining games.
The most important game is against Bulls. Bulls play as one of the top teams in the East right now.
If the Heat win this game they will end the season at the 8th position.


And the season starts then with play in games.

If they win the first game they will play against Celtics.
If they win the second game in home they will play against Cavalliers.

They will hopefully play with full roster in play in games.

I think they are capable to fight against any opponent in the East.


Nah, you're off by a lot. The Heat need to go 4-0 and then Bulls have to go 2-2 and Hawks 3-2, thats the only realistic scenario left for them to get into the 8th spot, because they have the tie breaker vs the Hawks, while Bulls have the tie breaker vs them.
If Bulls go 3-1 -> they are ahead of the Heat, if Hawks go 4-1 they are ahead of the Heat, the Magic only need to go 2-2 to stay ahead of the Heat.

Even the scenarios where Heat end up 9th are already small, the most realistic way is for Bulls to go 2-2 and Heat 4-0.

Yes playing at home is an advantage but man it's not worth playing through injuries, Herro had a really tough fall just rest him.
Get more losses they are really close to the Blazers/Suns in the tank standings, this 4-8% higher chance to land a top 4 pick is more important than home court in 9 vs 10 and a 5% higher chance to get into playoffs.



Bulls play against Cavalliers which is probably a loss and against Heat.
If Heat win Bulls they will most likely end above them.
Hawks play 2 times against Magic who are a better team.
Lets see


Cavs secured the #1 spot and are going to be on a b2b, we'll see how many starters they rest, if Bulls win that one they probably get the 9th spot over the Heat
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#967 » by Flash4thewin » Sun Apr 6, 2025 11:06 pm

Beenie wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:
Beenie wrote:Here’s the only math that matters, Mia would get swept if they happened to stumble into the playoffs

Most of the pro playoff advocates will inevitably be changing the channel at halftime each game when Mia is down by 30 against Clev or Bos


Heat need to make the playoffs this year so they can start a proper rebuild without owing two future unprotected picks. Can't begin the necessary tank if we owe our pick to OKC next year.


Imo, need need to miss the playoffs and use their two picks this season to either jumpstart their rebuild now or package them for a star (long shot)

And if they decide to do a full tear down (my preference) they can move Bam in the offseason and get 4ish future first rounders to add onto the two they have this year.

Can also move Herro for at least 2 more picks.


Herro value won’t be that high unfortunately because starting next season he will only have one year left on the books. We would need to get him to sign off on an extension which won’t come cheap which will then again decrease his trade value. Herro means more to the team than what it can get from a trade.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#968 » by Beenie » Mon Apr 7, 2025 12:23 am

Kobewade11 wrote:
Beenie wrote:Here’s the only math that matters, Mia would get swept if they happened to stumble into the playoffs

Most of the pro playoff advocates will inevitably be changing the channel at halftime each game when Mia is down by 30 against Clev or Bos


Playoff experience would be good for most of this group, even if it results in a first round exit.


Spo’s playoff rotation will shrink down to 8 guys for the most part

I suspect that Ware wont be getting many meaningful minutes and will likely be regulated to garbage time and I don’t put too much stock in the value of that kind of playoff experience

Perhaps you are also alluding to Mitchell who I know you’re high on

I’m apathetic to whatever playoff experience gains he would benefit from considering I don’t think he is worth prioritizing in the offseason, personally
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#969 » by Enso » Mon Apr 7, 2025 12:36 am

Feels like ground hogs day with the bulls and hawks every year
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#970 » by Enso » Mon Apr 7, 2025 12:37 am

Beenie wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:
Beenie wrote:Here’s the only math that matters, Mia would get swept if they happened to stumble into the playoffs

Most of the pro playoff advocates will inevitably be changing the channel at halftime each game when Mia is down by 30 against Clev or Bos


Playoff experience would be good for most of this group, even if it results in a first round exit.


Spo’s playoff rotation will shrink down to 8 guys for the most part

I suspect that Ware wont be getting many meaningful minutes and will likely be regulated to garbage time and I don’t put too much stock in the value of that kind of playoff experience

Perhaps you are also alluding to Mitchell who I know you’re high on

I’m apathetic to whatever playoff experience gains he would benefit from considering I don’t think he is worth prioritizing in the offseason, personally


Nah Ware is gonna get decent run time unless he really craps the bed
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#971 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Apr 7, 2025 1:19 am

Flash4thewin wrote:
Beenie wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:
Heat need to make the playoffs this year so they can start a proper rebuild without owing two future unprotected picks. Can't begin the necessary tank if we owe our pick to OKC next year.


Imo, need need to miss the playoffs and use their two picks this season to either jumpstart their rebuild now or package them for a star (long shot)

And if they decide to do a full tear down (my preference) they can move Bam in the offseason and get 4ish future first rounders to add onto the two they have this year.

Can also move Herro for at least 2 more picks.


Herro value won’t be that high unfortunately because starting next season he will only have one year left on the books. We would need to get him to sign off on an extension which won’t come cheap which will then again decrease his trade value. Herro means more to the team than what it can get from a trade.

Bam and Herro are just not getting moved. The franchise is married to them both and will continue to draft and build around them.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#972 » by Slot Machine » Mon Apr 7, 2025 1:56 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Flash4thewin wrote:
Beenie wrote:
Imo, need need to miss the playoffs and use their two picks this season to either jumpstart their rebuild now or package them for a star (long shot)

And if they decide to do a full tear down (my preference) they can move Bam in the offseason and get 4ish future first rounders to add onto the two they have this year.

Can also move Herro for at least 2 more picks.


Herro value won’t be that high unfortunately because starting next season he will only have one year left on the books. We would need to get him to sign off on an extension which won’t come cheap which will then again decrease his trade value. Herro means more to the team than what it can get from a trade.

Bam and Herro are just not getting moved. The franchise is married to them both and will continue to draft and build around them.

Most of us understand that, we just think it’s a big mistake to “build around” a top 15-20 player and a borderline top 50 player. Especially when that borderline top 50 player is coming due for a hefty extension.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#973 » by Daffy » Mon Apr 7, 2025 2:36 am

DayofMourning wrote:Davion/Fears
Herro/Larsson
KD/Wiggins
Bam/Fleming
Ware/?

Thats our best build atm.


I don't see a route to acquiring KD without giving up Wiggins. We can match other salaries but it'll be junk. Phoenix still wants competitive pieces around Booker.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#974 » by Daffy » Mon Apr 7, 2025 2:45 am

Slot Machine wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Flash4thewin wrote:
Herro value won’t be that high unfortunately because starting next season he will only have one year left on the books. We would need to get him to sign off on an extension which won’t come cheap which will then again decrease his trade value. Herro means more to the team than what it can get from a trade.

Bam and Herro are just not getting moved. The franchise is married to them both and will continue to draft and build around them.

Most of us understand that, we just think it’s a big mistake to “build around” a top 15-20 player and a borderline top 50 player. Especially when that borderline top 50 player is coming due for a hefty extension.


You know there's go guarantee in hitting on star players for a rebuild. It could take years and years. Kings, Hornets, Chicago, Washington, Portland New Orleans. How long have they been rebuilding for and how much closer are they? Sometimes you build with what you have and find that missing piece in FA or the draft. Trading off the talent you currently have to rebuild is not always a sure thing.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#975 » by Kobewade11 » Mon Apr 7, 2025 10:46 am

Beenie wrote:
Spo’s playoff rotation will shrink down to 8 guys for the most part

I suspect that Ware wont be getting many meaningful minutes and will likely be regulated to garbage time and I don’t put too much stock in the value of that kind of playoff experience

Perhaps you are also alluding to Mitchell who I know you’re high on

I’m apathetic to whatever playoff experience gains he would benefit from considering I don’t think he is worth prioritizing in the offseason, personally


Ware will get time. I know you dont put value into it, you’ve been begging for a bullet most of the season and the team refuses to oblige lol
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#976 » by DayofMourning » Mon Apr 7, 2025 11:11 am

Daffy wrote:
Slot Machine wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Bam and Herro are just not getting moved. The franchise is married to them both and will continue to draft and build around them.

Most of us understand that, we just think it’s a big mistake to “build around” a top 15-20 player and a borderline top 50 player. Especially when that borderline top 50 player is coming due for a hefty extension.


You know there's go guarantee in hitting on star players for a rebuild. It could take years and years. Kings, Hornets, Chicago, Washington, Portland New Orleans. How long have they been rebuilding for and how much closer are they? Sometimes you build with what you have and find that missing piece in FA or the draft. Trading off the talent you currently have to rebuild is not always a sure thing.


Especially when those two are sold on Heat culture. Theyre in the age/maturity range where theyre going to yield max results.

Many teams are mismanaged, and that completely derails them. New Orleans is a great example during the AD years. Sixers post Hinkie is another.

I feel like the Heat have done great with the draft. The players and character traits they look for tend to work out. With that in mind, it really behooves us to draft this year.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#977 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Apr 7, 2025 12:25 pm

No update on Jimmy and the Warriors from last night?
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Post#978 » by SerialChiller » Mon Apr 7, 2025 12:33 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:No update on Jimmy and the Warriors from last night?


Butler and Curry combined for 16 points yikes!
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#979 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Apr 7, 2025 12:45 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:No update on Jimmy and the Warriors from last night?


Butler and Curry combined for 16 points yikes!


Go ahead and hand them the championship!!
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#980 » by Hallstar » Mon Apr 7, 2025 4:29 pm

Beenie wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:
Beenie wrote:Here’s the only math that matters, Mia would get swept if they happened to stumble into the playoffs

Most of the pro playoff advocates will inevitably be changing the channel at halftime each game when Mia is down by 30 against Clev or Bos


Playoff experience would be good for most of this group, even if it results in a first round exit.


Spo’s playoff rotation will shrink down to 8 guys for the most part

I suspect that Ware wont be getting many meaningful minutes and will likely be regulated to garbage time and I don’t put too much stock in the value of that kind of playoff experience

Perhaps you are also alluding to Mitchell who I know you’re high on

I’m apathetic to whatever playoff experience gains he would benefit from considering I don’t think he is worth prioritizing in the offseason, personally

LOL, what team have you been watching? If Ware is deliberately compromised, Bam should ask for a trade.

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