DayofMourning wrote:Davion/Fears
Herro/Larsson
KD/Wiggins
Bam/Fleming
Ware/?
Thats our best build atm.
Wiggins will have to be dealt if you want KD. Cap situation.
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DayofMourning wrote:Davion/Fears
Herro/Larsson
KD/Wiggins
Bam/Fleming
Ware/?
Thats our best build atm.
MettaWorldPanda wrote:DayofMourning wrote:Davion/Fears
Herro/Larsson
KD/Wiggins
Bam/Fleming
Ware/?
Thats our best build atm.
Wiggins will have to be dealt if you want KD. Cap situation.
SoFlaKingReal wrote:Beenie wrote:Here’s the only math that matters, Mia would get swept if they happened to stumble into the playoffs
Most of the pro playoff advocates will inevitably be changing the channel at halftime each game when Mia is down by 30 against Clev or Bos
Heat need to make the playoffs this year so they can start a proper rebuild without owing two future unprotected picks. Can't begin the necessary tank if we owe our pick to OKC next year.
Beenie wrote:Here’s the only math that matters, Mia would get swept if they happened to stumble into the playoffs
Most of the pro playoff advocates will inevitably be changing the channel at halftime each game when Mia is down by 30 against Clev or Bos
vagelis wrote:VaDe255 wrote:vagelis wrote:
Heat will win atleast 3 of the 4 remaining games.
The most important game is against Bulls. Bulls play as one of the top teams in the East right now.
If the Heat win this game they will end the season at the 8th position.
And the season starts then with play in games.
If they win the first game they will play against Celtics.
If they win the second game in home they will play against Cavalliers.
They will hopefully play with full roster in play in games.
I think they are capable to fight against any opponent in the East.
Nah, you're off by a lot. The Heat need to go 4-0 and then Bulls have to go 2-2 and Hawks 3-2, thats the only realistic scenario left for them to get into the 8th spot, because they have the tie breaker vs the Hawks, while Bulls have the tie breaker vs them.
If Bulls go 3-1 -> they are ahead of the Heat, if Hawks go 4-1 they are ahead of the Heat, the Magic only need to go 2-2 to stay ahead of the Heat.
Even the scenarios where Heat end up 9th are already small, the most realistic way is for Bulls to go 2-2 and Heat 4-0.
Yes playing at home is an advantage but man it's not worth playing through injuries, Herro had a really tough fall just rest him.
Get more losses they are really close to the Blazers/Suns in the tank standings, this 4-8% higher chance to land a top 4 pick is more important than home court in 9 vs 10 and a 5% higher chance to get into playoffs.
Bulls play against Cavalliers which is probably a loss and against Heat.
If Heat win Bulls they will most likely end above them.
Hawks play 2 times against Magic who are a better team.
Lets see
Beenie wrote:SoFlaKingReal wrote:Beenie wrote:Here’s the only math that matters, Mia would get swept if they happened to stumble into the playoffs
Most of the pro playoff advocates will inevitably be changing the channel at halftime each game when Mia is down by 30 against Clev or Bos
Heat need to make the playoffs this year so they can start a proper rebuild without owing two future unprotected picks. Can't begin the necessary tank if we owe our pick to OKC next year.
Imo, need need to miss the playoffs and use their two picks this season to either jumpstart their rebuild now or package them for a star (long shot)
And if they decide to do a full tear down (my preference) they can move Bam in the offseason and get 4ish future first rounders to add onto the two they have this year.
Can also move Herro for at least 2 more picks.
Kobewade11 wrote:Beenie wrote:Here’s the only math that matters, Mia would get swept if they happened to stumble into the playoffs
Most of the pro playoff advocates will inevitably be changing the channel at halftime each game when Mia is down by 30 against Clev or Bos
Playoff experience would be good for most of this group, even if it results in a first round exit.
Beenie wrote:Kobewade11 wrote:Beenie wrote:Here’s the only math that matters, Mia would get swept if they happened to stumble into the playoffs
Most of the pro playoff advocates will inevitably be changing the channel at halftime each game when Mia is down by 30 against Clev or Bos
Playoff experience would be good for most of this group, even if it results in a first round exit.
Spo’s playoff rotation will shrink down to 8 guys for the most part
I suspect that Ware wont be getting many meaningful minutes and will likely be regulated to garbage time and I don’t put too much stock in the value of that kind of playoff experience
Perhaps you are also alluding to Mitchell who I know you’re high on
I’m apathetic to whatever playoff experience gains he would benefit from considering I don’t think he is worth prioritizing in the offseason, personally
Flash4thewin wrote:Beenie wrote:SoFlaKingReal wrote:
Heat need to make the playoffs this year so they can start a proper rebuild without owing two future unprotected picks. Can't begin the necessary tank if we owe our pick to OKC next year.
Imo, need need to miss the playoffs and use their two picks this season to either jumpstart their rebuild now or package them for a star (long shot)
And if they decide to do a full tear down (my preference) they can move Bam in the offseason and get 4ish future first rounders to add onto the two they have this year.
Can also move Herro for at least 2 more picks.
Herro value won’t be that high unfortunately because starting next season he will only have one year left on the books. We would need to get him to sign off on an extension which won’t come cheap which will then again decrease his trade value. Herro means more to the team than what it can get from a trade.
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Flash4thewin wrote:Beenie wrote:
Imo, need need to miss the playoffs and use their two picks this season to either jumpstart their rebuild now or package them for a star (long shot)
And if they decide to do a full tear down (my preference) they can move Bam in the offseason and get 4ish future first rounders to add onto the two they have this year.
Can also move Herro for at least 2 more picks.
Herro value won’t be that high unfortunately because starting next season he will only have one year left on the books. We would need to get him to sign off on an extension which won’t come cheap which will then again decrease his trade value. Herro means more to the team than what it can get from a trade.
Bam and Herro are just not getting moved. The franchise is married to them both and will continue to draft and build around them.
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DayofMourning wrote:Davion/Fears
Herro/Larsson
KD/Wiggins
Bam/Fleming
Ware/?
Thats our best build atm.
Slot Machine wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:Flash4thewin wrote:
Herro value won’t be that high unfortunately because starting next season he will only have one year left on the books. We would need to get him to sign off on an extension which won’t come cheap which will then again decrease his trade value. Herro means more to the team than what it can get from a trade.
Bam and Herro are just not getting moved. The franchise is married to them both and will continue to draft and build around them.
Most of us understand that, we just think it’s a big mistake to “build around” a top 15-20 player and a borderline top 50 player. Especially when that borderline top 50 player is coming due for a hefty extension.
Beenie wrote:
Spo’s playoff rotation will shrink down to 8 guys for the most part
I suspect that Ware wont be getting many meaningful minutes and will likely be regulated to garbage time and I don’t put too much stock in the value of that kind of playoff experience
Perhaps you are also alluding to Mitchell who I know you’re high on
I’m apathetic to whatever playoff experience gains he would benefit from considering I don’t think he is worth prioritizing in the offseason, personally
Daffy wrote:Slot Machine wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:Bam and Herro are just not getting moved. The franchise is married to them both and will continue to draft and build around them.
Most of us understand that, we just think it’s a big mistake to “build around” a top 15-20 player and a borderline top 50 player. Especially when that borderline top 50 player is coming due for a hefty extension.
You know there's go guarantee in hitting on star players for a rebuild. It could take years and years. Kings, Hornets, Chicago, Washington, Portland New Orleans. How long have they been rebuilding for and how much closer are they? Sometimes you build with what you have and find that missing piece in FA or the draft. Trading off the talent you currently have to rebuild is not always a sure thing.
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:No update on Jimmy and the Warriors from last night?
SerialChiller wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:No update on Jimmy and the Warriors from last night?
Butler and Curry combined for 16 points yikes!
Beenie wrote:Kobewade11 wrote:Beenie wrote:Here’s the only math that matters, Mia would get swept if they happened to stumble into the playoffs
Most of the pro playoff advocates will inevitably be changing the channel at halftime each game when Mia is down by 30 against Clev or Bos
Playoff experience would be good for most of this group, even if it results in a first round exit.
Spo’s playoff rotation will shrink down to 8 guys for the most part
I suspect that Ware wont be getting many meaningful minutes and will likely be regulated to garbage time and I don’t put too much stock in the value of that kind of playoff experience
Perhaps you are also alluding to Mitchell who I know you’re high on
I’m apathetic to whatever playoff experience gains he would benefit from considering I don’t think he is worth prioritizing in the offseason, personally