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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#941 » by ArthurVandelay » Wed Apr 2, 2025 3:36 pm

causal_fan wrote:Now that we have a good sample size, how would posters do a redraft of the Raptors 2024 picks - I know there were lots of varying opinions at time of draft. For me, Mogbo seems like a missed opportunity.


He was a college C who they are trying to convert into a wing.

I wouldn't write him off yet. He's shown flashes.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#942 » by PushDaRock » Wed Apr 2, 2025 5:53 pm

causal_fan wrote:Now that we have a good sample size, how would posters do a redraft of the Raptors 2024 picks - I know there were lots of varying opinions at time of draft. For me, Mogbo seems like a missed opportunity.


Mogbo has flashed elite defensive potential. That's going to have some value even if the offense never develops too much further. He just has to get to a passable level.

His scoring touch is atrocious right now, it's so bad that there's almost nowhere to go but up.

He's also shown a willingness to shoot the 3 ball and he's at 28%, that's not terrible for someone that didn't take a single 3 last year in college. We can be hopeful of some development continuing in this area.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#943 » by littlerock2277 » Wed Apr 2, 2025 6:53 pm

Do you think the raptors would be interested in Devin Booker if he were to ever become available? Seems like a hidden player not mention in potential trade talks. PHX probably going to impold soon. Seems like a player we could potentially afford without losing to many assets.
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Post#944 » by Tripod » Wed Apr 2, 2025 7:25 pm

littlerock2277 wrote:Do you think the raptors would be interested in Devin Booker if he were to ever become available? Seems like a hidden player not mention in potential trade talks. PHX probably going to impold soon. Seems like a player we could potentially afford without losing to many assets.

Hidden?

Phx has said he isn't available. And a whole bunch of team would be lined up for him.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#945 » by littlerock2277 » Wed Apr 2, 2025 7:41 pm

Tripod wrote:
littlerock2277 wrote:Do you think the raptors would be interested in Devin Booker if he were to ever become available? Seems like a hidden player not mention in potential trade talks. PHX probably going to impold soon. Seems like a player we could potentially afford without losing to many assets.

Hidden?

Phx has said he isn't available. And a whole bunch of team would be lined up for him.


I definitely worded that wrong, I just mean he seems like a potential star player to be available, pHX situation ain’t good, he looks like one the stars next to demand a trade.

I personally think we have decent assets to offer teams. Wouldn’t be a bad option to explore if he ever became avalible.
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Post#946 » by Tripod » Wed Apr 2, 2025 7:47 pm

littlerock2277 wrote:
Tripod wrote:
littlerock2277 wrote:Do you think the raptors would be interested in Devin Booker if he were to ever become available? Seems like a hidden player not mention in potential trade talks. PHX probably going to impold soon. Seems like a player we could potentially afford without losing to many assets.

Hidden?

Phx has said he isn't available. And a whole bunch of team would be lined up for him.


I definitely worded that wrong, I just mean he seems like a potential star player to be available, pHX situation ain’t good, he looks like one the stars next to demand a trade.

I personally think we have decent assets to offer teams. Wouldn’t be a bad option to explore if he ever became avalible.

All indications are that Houston want to pounce on him if he becomes available. And they have Phx's picks to give back.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#947 » by littlerock2277 » Wed Apr 2, 2025 7:54 pm

Tripod wrote:
littlerock2277 wrote:
Tripod wrote:Hidden?

Phx has said he isn't available. And a whole bunch of team would be lined up for him.


I definitely worded that wrong, I just mean he seems like a potential star player to be available, pHX situation ain’t good, he looks like one the stars next to demand a trade.

I personally think we have decent assets to offer teams. Wouldn’t be a bad option to explore if he ever became avalible.

All indications are that Houston want to pounce on him if he becomes available. And they have Phx's picks to give back.


Yeah if Houston is interested we won’t have a chance too many picks and better prospects than us. We really need to get lucky and get a high draft pick this year.
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Post#948 » by Psubs » Thu Apr 3, 2025 1:01 am

Tripod wrote:
littlerock2277 wrote:
Tripod wrote:Hidden?

Phx has said he isn't available. And a whole bunch of team would be lined up for him.


I definitely worded that wrong, I just mean he seems like a potential star player to be available, pHX situation ain’t good, he looks like one the stars next to demand a trade.

I personally think we have decent assets to offer teams. Wouldn’t be a bad option to explore if he ever became avalible.

All indications are that Houston want to pounce on him if he becomes available. And they have Phx's picks to give back.


Dillon Brooks, Reed Sheppard, Tari Eason, Cam Whitmore and three 1st picks?
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Post#949 » by Psubs » Thu Apr 3, 2025 9:39 pm



$12-13-13-12

4 years $50 milion he should be able to start even if Poeltl gets hurt.
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Post#950 » by PoundTown » Fri Apr 4, 2025 7:45 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
causal_fan wrote:Now that we have a good sample size, how would posters do a redraft of the Raptors 2024 picks - I know there were lots of varying opinions at time of draft. For me, Mogbo seems like a missed opportunity.


Mogbo has flashed elite defensive potential. That's going to have some value even if the offense never develops too much further. He just has to get to a passable level.

His scoring touch is atrocious right now, it's so bad that there's almost nowhere to go but up.

He's also shown a willingness to shoot the 3 ball and he's at 28%, that's not terrible for someone that didn't take a single 3 last year in college. We can be hopeful of some development continuing in this area.



The way I look at it, is he is further along than PJ Tucker was in his rookie Raptor year, and that's the type of role I ideally see Mogbo filling, plus added bonus of playmaking for others. But, like PJ, undersized big who didnt shoot 3s at all in college with ability to defend up and down the line up and rebound pretty well for his size. Like Mogbo, PJ also didn't really have the best touch, but was able to develop a 3 point shot over time, but had to go to Europe a few years to do it. We're not looking at a superstar here, but a potential really nice role player. All depends on him not being a liability and make teams pay for leaving him open.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#951 » by ArthurVandelay » Sat Apr 5, 2025 1:40 pm

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$12-13-13-12

4 years $50 milion he should be able to start even if Poeltl gets hurt.


Who are you trading?

You keep posting about MLE players but that would put them not only into the tax but above the first apron which means they can’t use MLE.

So every time you post about signing a FA with more than a minimum contract, please make it realistic and tell us where you’re cutting the salary needed to make it happen.
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Post#952 » by Thaddy » Sat Apr 5, 2025 11:46 pm

The goals should be to draft BPA, develop Walter as a guard opposed to a wing so he can be the third string PG if needed, and trading Barrett for an expiring big and getting picks.

Bulls: Collins, Terry, 27' lottery protected first
Raptors: Barrett

Poeltl / Collins / Maluach
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Walter
Agbaji / Dick / Terry
IQ / Shead / Walter

Stick all of our guards other than IQ and Shead in a guard camp. Dick and Agbaji would be a lot better with a slightly improved handle.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#953 » by sidsid » Sun Apr 6, 2025 1:18 pm

Psubs wrote:
Tripod wrote:
littlerock2277 wrote:
I definitely worded that wrong, I just mean he seems like a potential star player to be available, pHX situation ain’t good, he looks like one the stars next to demand a trade.

I personally think we have decent assets to offer teams. Wouldn’t be a bad option to explore if he ever became avalible.

All indications are that Houston want to pounce on him if he becomes available. And they have Phx's picks to give back.


Dillon Brooks, Reed Sheppard, Tari Eason, Cam Whitmore and three 1st picks?
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Devin Booker


I'm almost certain Houston's goal would be to trade Green's new contract as part of the main asset to avoid giving up their strong, young playoff players like Eason. For Phoenix I'm wondering if the mandatory piece is moving Beal in the deal.

It's two trades with Beal and Booker each.
- Fred + Cam (or whatever filler) in one
- Green + Sheppard in the other + the picks

The only problem is if they would want to trade for Fred's contract at the draft and decline the team option to get them out of the tax, while the Green move requires his new contract to kick in to work.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#954 » by Thaddy » Mon Apr 7, 2025 5:41 am

causal_fan wrote:Now that we have a good sample size, how would posters do a redraft of the Raptors 2024 picks - I know there were lots of varying opinions at time of draft. For me, Mogbo seems like a missed opportunity.

He's had a 17/11/7 game with ZERO turnovers.

We were comparing him to Achiuwa at the start of the season and I would say he's surpassed him. He is basically a C with physical stats matching Bam, it gives us a hidden twin tower line up.
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Post#955 » by Psubs » Mon Apr 7, 2025 2:09 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:
Psubs wrote:

$12-13-13-12

4 years $50 milion he should be able to start even if Poeltl gets hurt.


Who are you trading?

You keep posting about MLE players but that would put them not only into the tax but above the first apron which means they can’t use MLE.

So every time you post about signing a FA with more than a minimum contract, please make it realistic and tell us where you’re cutting the salary needed to make it happen.


Dump Agbaji. Trade him at the draft for as high a pick as you can get. Like getting another early 2nd and then drafting Condon, Yaxel Lendeborg, Tomislav, Broome, Toppin or Thiero. Just need to get bigger.

The Celtics are a repeater tax team so wouldn't have the tax payer MLE, right? That should be enough. Easy peasy. :roll:
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Post#956 » by youngRAPZ » Mon Apr 7, 2025 3:41 pm

Thaddy wrote:
causal_fan wrote:Now that we have a good sample size, how would posters do a redraft of the Raptors 2024 picks - I know there were lots of varying opinions at time of draft. For me, Mogbo seems like a missed opportunity.

He's had a 17/11/7 game with ZERO turnovers.

We were comparing him to Achiuwa at the start of the season and I would say he's surpassed him. He is basically a C with physical stats matching Bam, it gives us a hidden twin tower line up.

Twin Tower lineup? lol


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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#957 » by youngRAPZ » Mon Apr 7, 2025 3:42 pm

Psubs wrote:
ArthurVandelay wrote:
Psubs wrote:

$12-13-13-12

4 years $50 milion he should be able to start even if Poeltl gets hurt.


Who are you trading?

You keep posting about MLE players but that would put them not only into the tax but above the first apron which means they can’t use MLE.

So every time you post about signing a FA with more than a minimum contract, please make it realistic and tell us where you’re cutting the salary needed to make it happen.


Dump Agbaji. Trade him at the draft for as high a pick as you can get. Like getting another early 2nd and then drafting Condon, Yaxel Lendeborg, Tomislav, Broome, Toppin or Thiero. Just need to get bigger.

The Celtics are a repeater tax team so wouldn't have the tax payer MLE, right? That should be enough. Easy peasy. :roll:

Brother just stop following the raptors already. Masai is not trading him after the season he has had and definitely not for a 2nd round pick what is wrong with you? Every post you post is trade Agbagi lol.


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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#958 » by James_Raptors » Mon Apr 7, 2025 5:09 pm

Raptors mins/season (not including players traded away)
1.Scottie Barnes: 33.0
2.RJ Barrett: 32.5
3.Jakob Poeltl: 29.6
4.Gradey Dick: 29.4
5.Immanuel Quickley: 28.2
6.Ochai Agbaji: 26.9
7.Colin Castleton: 25.9
8.Ja'Kobe Walter: 21.2
9.Jared Rhoden: 20.6
10.Orlando Robinson: 20.0
11.Jonathan Mogbo: 19.6
12.Jamal Shead: 19.1
13.Cole Swider: 18.7
14.A.J.Lawson: 17.7
15.Chris Boucher: 17.2
16.Jamison Battle: 16.7

Raptors mins/game from Feb 28th (20 games)until present+:
RJ Barrett 29.7
Scottie: 28.8
Quickley 28.3
Walter 27.1
Battle 26.1
Mogbo 25.1
Poeltl 24.8
Castleton 24.1
Robinson 24.1
Shead 24.0
Ochai 23.3
Rhoden 23.1
Lawson 21.6
Cole Swider 18.1
Dick 34.47 total mins
Boucher 0.0

Raptors TOTAL mins played, from Feb 28th (20 games) until present-
Scottie 489 (3 games missed)
Shead 479
Robinson 458 (1 game missed)
Battle 442 (3 games missed)
Lawson 389 (1 game missed)
Mogbo 352 (6 games missed)
Quickley 340 (8 games missed)
Barrett 327 (7 games missed)
Walter 325 (8 games missed)
Castleton 289
Poeltl 273 (9 games missed)
Ochai 210 (11 games missed)
Rhoden 185 (10 games missed)
Cole swider 131
Dick 34 (19 games missed)
Boucher 0 (20 games missed)
08-14-'21:
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#959 » by Thaddy » Mon Apr 7, 2025 7:56 pm

youngRAPZ wrote:
Thaddy wrote:
causal_fan wrote:Now that we have a good sample size, how would posters do a redraft of the Raptors 2024 picks - I know there were lots of varying opinions at time of draft. For me, Mogbo seems like a missed opportunity.

He's had a 17/11/7 game with ZERO turnovers.

We were comparing him to Achiuwa at the start of the season and I would say he's surpassed him. He is basically a C with physical stats matching Bam, it gives us a hidden twin tower line up.

Twin Tower lineup? lol


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Mogbo has comparable length to Bam.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#960 » by youngRAPZ » Mon Apr 7, 2025 7:58 pm

Thaddy wrote:
youngRAPZ wrote:
Thaddy wrote:He's had a 17/11/7 game with ZERO turnovers.

We were comparing him to Achiuwa at the start of the season and I would say he's surpassed him. He is basically a C with physical stats matching Bam, it gives us a hidden twin tower line up.

Twin Tower lineup? lol


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Mogbo has comparable length to Bam.

lol Bam can’t be part of a “twin tower” lineup. The nickname was given to Duncan and Robinson because they were both over 7’ tall. Bam and Mogbo are no where near 7’ what are you even talking about sir?


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