2025 nfl draft thread

[Jikkle]

If he's on the board still my gut tells me the pick will be Jalon Walker.

High character guy

Speed rusher to pair with Bosa

And I just think they want to get more creative on defense and Walker is a guy they have options with in how they use him. He'll primarily be rushing off the edge but they could move him around and he can be effective in doing different things to keep an offense guessing.

I wouldn't love Walker at 11. I question if he has a clear role in the NFL and on our defense. I'm not sure he's an every-down DE. I question his play downhill vs. the run and in coverage at LB. Between the two, I would prefer Jihaad Campbell.

He wouldn't be my personal pick but I'd rather go for an OT but I'm guessing what the team has in mind and I do believe they want to inject some creativity into the defense so I can see them envisioning a guy like Walker lining up all over the place. One play he's an LB in coverage, next he's rushing off the edge, next he's blitzing as an LB, and etc.

I did see Mayock has him listed as his best edge rusher in the draft and what little predraft stuff I've seen most consider him best as an edge rusher.

[Jikkle]

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It's lying season so not sure how much stock you put into a report like this.

I don't doubt they love him as he does seem like he could be that Jordan Reed type that Shanahan seemed to want but considering most see him as a 3rd or 4th round pick a 1st round pick seems pretty rich for him.

I know Pearsall is going to be brought up but he was pegged as a 2nd rounder so I never considered drafting him at #31 as this egregious reach

But we do know that once this team falls hard for someone value gets thrown out the window so I can see them taking him with their 2nd rounder if they love him as much as has been claimed.

[clyde21]

Lol this FO would definitely do something hilarious like that

[CrimsonCrew]

I would love to have Fanin. At 75 or 100. Taking him at the end of the first would be incredibly asinine. Last year you could maybe have justified a luxury pick like that. We took Pearsall anticipating that he would be our fourth WR, after all. This year, we have too many needs at premium positions to add a guy who would maybe get 20 snaps a game.

I would be very happy to trade back into the late first and load up on picks, if we go with a DL or OL with that pick. I would be okay with trading back in the second or up in the third to draft Fanin, though I would strongly prefer to take at least two players at more pressing positions taking a backup TE. Taking Fanin in the first would be a punch in the gut.

Incidentally, it would be extremely odd, given all the holes on this roster, if the only substantive move we made in FA and our first pick in the draft both addressed a position where we have the best player in the league. All for grooming a replacement for Kittle, but not at the expense of all other positions. And this is a pretty deep TE draft.

[CrimsonCrew]

The more I think about RB in this draft, the more I'll be upset if (when?) we take one in the third round. This draft is so deep at the position, with guys in various molds who could fit what we need. There are a boatload of somewhat undersized speedsters (loosely based on timed speed) in Bhayshul Tuten, Jaydon Blue, Brashard Smith, RJ Harvey, Trevor Etienne, DJ Giddens (he's actually got decent size), Jarquez Hunter, etc. who could/should all be available in the 4th round or later. There are bigger late-round guys like Damien Martinez, Raheim Sanders, Ollie Gordon, Tahj Brooks. And there are some pretty promising players who lack elite measurables but have great on-field production and intangibles in Devin Neal and Kyle Monangai.

I'm not saying all these guys go in the 4th or later, but I'd imagine a lot of them will. Of all years that we should not be reaching on a RB, it's this one. I think you could get a good one in the 6th or 7th round, and can definitely find a player with real potential in the Shanahan scheme in the 4th or 5th. Please, please, please wait for a great value and address bigger need/value positions first.

to be fair, there are also a bunch of guys on the IOL and DL that can be had in the 3rd/4th, too. i'm not advocating for a RB early but I see a path where the FO identifies a guy like Skatt or Henderson early who would be great fits here and just go IOL/DT a bit later depending on what we did 1st/2nd.

like, if we take Derrick Harmon at 11 for example, and then a DE in the 2nd, i don't think it's out of the realm of possibility we go RB with our first 3rd, and then IOL with our second 3rd or 4ths.

I just don't see us addressing JUST the DL/OL with our four top 100 picks, i think they'll go skill at at least one of these picks.

I don't think we'll only go DL/OL with the first four picks. We need CB depth badly (only two reliable players on the roster right now). We could use a true FS with some speed. We have a pretty huge need at LB. We could stand to start grooming a replacement for Kittle (see above). Hell, with Aiyuk's status uncertain and Jennings a FA next year, we could even take a WR. And we need RB depth for sure. It would just be galling - particularly with this FO's track record of drafting RBs, to take a RB over those other positions. If we're taking a RB in the first three rounds, it has to be because that guy is ridiculous value.

Quick refresher on this FO's history of drafting RBs:

2017 (4): Joe Williams
2021 (3): Trey Sermon
2021 (6): Elijah Mitchell
2022 (3): Ty Davis-Price
2024 (4): Isaac Guerendo

Five picks, four of them in the first four rounds, and literally none of those guys hit. Mitchell was the best before injuries did him in, but of course he was the second RB we took that year. Williams, Sermon, and Davis-Price were all colossal busts. Guerendo has a chance, but this past year he had fumbling issues, demonstrated poor vision, and couldn't stay healthy. Not holding my breath on that.

By contrast, they added Matt Breida, Jeff Wilson, and Jordan Mason as UDFAs. Each of those three outperformed any of their drafted players (not Mitchell when healthy, maybe).

They also turned dirt cheap FA Raheem Mostert into an impact player.

[CrimsonCrew]

Re: RB, part of our issue has been that Kyle (or Robert Turner) refuses to rotate our players, so they get hurt a lot. I can't fathom it. Jordan Mason was leading the league in yards, but when McCaffrey came back, we stopped giving him touches entirely. I don't think McCaffrey stays healthy if we played him less this past season, but certainly throwing him back in at 100% was ill-advised.

They've taken a similar approach along the DL, where we just don't rotate guys nearly enough. We kept running Floyd out there for like 70% of snaps when it was clear he couldn't handle that. When we finally scaled him back, he actually played reasonably well. I get wanting Bosa out there as much as possible, but you've just got to rotate these other guys. Particularly if they aren't world-beaters. Split snaps between two decent players so they can both go 100% every play and you'll be in much better shape than a Leonard Floyd playing most of the game at 60% because he's wearing down.

[clyde21]

If he's on the board still my gut tells me the pick will be Jalon Walker.

High character guy

Speed rusher to pair with Bosa

And I just think they want to get more creative on defense and Walker is a guy they have options with in how they use him. He'll primarily be rushing off the edge but they could move him around and he can be effective in doing different things to keep an offense guessing.

I wouldn't love Walker at 11. I question if he has a clear role in the NFL and on our defense. I'm not sure he's an every-down DE. I question his play downhill vs. the run and in coverage at LB. Between the two, I would prefer Jihaad Campbell.

He wouldn't be my personal pick but I'd rather go for an OT but I'm guessing what the team has in mind and I do believe they want to inject some creativity into the defense so I can see them envisioning a guy like Walker lining up all over the place. One play he's an LB in coverage, next he's rushing off the edge, next he's blitzing as an LB, and etc.

I did see Mayock has him listed as his best edge rusher in the draft and what little predraft stuff I've seen most consider him best as an edge rusher.

I'm down for both Jalon Walker and Jihaad Campbell at 11 - zero issues taking an athletic versatile front seven piece like this in a year where we have lot of holes to cover on that unit. Both can play in space and both can be pass rushers on obvious passing downs too. Campbell is really good in zone coverage too.

i'd probably prefer them over any DL/OL at this point that could be available at 11 (assuming Graham/Membou are gone), and you don't get hybrid guys like this often. It's looking more like Walker won't be available at 11 either, btw.

[clyde21]

The more I think about RB in this draft, the more I'll be upset if (when?) we take one in the third round. This draft is so deep at the position, with guys in various molds who could fit what we need. There are a boatload of somewhat undersized speedsters (loosely based on timed speed) in Bhayshul Tuten, Jaydon Blue, Brashard Smith, RJ Harvey, Trevor Etienne, DJ Giddens (he's actually got decent size), Jarquez Hunter, etc. who could/should all be available in the 4th round or later. There are bigger late-round guys like Damien Martinez, Raheim Sanders, Ollie Gordon, Tahj Brooks. And there are some pretty promising players who lack elite measurables but have great on-field production and intangibles in Devin Neal and Kyle Monangai.

I'm not saying all these guys go in the 4th or later, but I'd imagine a lot of them will. Of all years that we should not be reaching on a RB, it's this one. I think you could get a good one in the 6th or 7th round, and can definitely find a player with real potential in the Shanahan scheme in the 4th or 5th. Please, please, please wait for a great value and address bigger need/value positions first.

to be fair, there are also a bunch of guys on the IOL and DL that can be had in the 3rd/4th, too. i'm not advocating for a RB early but I see a path where the FO identifies a guy like Skatt or Henderson early who would be great fits here and just go IOL/DT a bit later depending on what we did 1st/2nd.

like, if we take Derrick Harmon at 11 for example, and then a DE in the 2nd, i don't think it's out of the realm of possibility we go RB with our first 3rd, and then IOL with our second 3rd or 4ths.

I just don't see us addressing JUST the DL/OL with our four top 100 picks, i think they'll go skill at at least one of these picks.

I don't think we'll only go DL/OL with the first four picks. We need CB depth badly (only two reliable players on the roster right now). We could use a true FS with some speed. We have a pretty huge need at LB. We could stand to start grooming a replacement for Kittle (see above). Hell, with Aiyuk's status uncertain and Jennings a FA next year, we could even take a WR. And we need RB depth for sure. It would just be galling - particularly with this FO's track record of drafting RBs, to take a RB over those other positions. If we're taking a RB in the first three rounds, it has to be because that guy is ridiculous value.

Quick refresher on this FO's history of drafting RBs:

2017 (4): Joe Williams
2021 (3): Trey Sermon
2021 (6): Elijah Mitchell
2022 (3): Ty Davis-Price
2024 (4): Isaac Guerendo

Five picks, four of them in the first four rounds, and literally none of those guys hit. Mitchell was the best before injuries did him in, but of course he was the second RB we took that year. Williams, Sermon, and Davis-Price were all colossal busts. Guerendo has a chance, but this past year he had fumbling issues, demonstrated poor vision, and couldn't stay healthy. Not holding my breath on that.

By contrast, they added Matt Breida, Jeff Wilson, and Jordan Mason as UDFAs. Each of those three outperformed any of their drafted players (not Mitchell when healthy, maybe).

They also turned dirt cheap FA Raheem Mostert into an impact player.

i agree that this FO has displayed exactly *zero* skill in identifying and drafting good day two RBs. though this RB class is so good it'll be kinda hard to to draft a bust that high, especially in our scheme. now that would be an accomplishment.

like, tbh I wouldn't be totally opposed to taking Skatt or Henderson with our 3rd if they are available, but obviously depending on what we do with our first two picks.

[CrimsonCrew]

to be fair, there are also a bunch of guys on the IOL and DL that can be had in the 3rd/4th, too. i'm not advocating for a RB early but I see a path where the FO identifies a guy like Skatt or Henderson early who would be great fits here and just go IOL/DT a bit later depending on what we did 1st/2nd.

like, if we take Derrick Harmon at 11 for example, and then a DE in the 2nd, i don't think it's out of the realm of possibility we go RB with our first 3rd, and then IOL with our second 3rd or 4ths.

I just don't see us addressing JUST the DL/OL with our four top 100 picks, i think they'll go skill at at least one of these picks.

I don't think we'll only go DL/OL with the first four picks. We need CB depth badly (only two reliable players on the roster right now). We could use a true FS with some speed. We have a pretty huge need at LB. We could stand to start grooming a replacement for Kittle (see above). Hell, with Aiyuk's status uncertain and Jennings a FA next year, we could even take a WR. And we need RB depth for sure. It would just be galling - particularly with this FO's track record of drafting RBs, to take a RB over those other positions. If we're taking a RB in the first three rounds, it has to be because that guy is ridiculous value.

Quick refresher on this FO's history of drafting RBs:

2017 (4): Joe Williams
2021 (3): Trey Sermon
2021 (6): Elijah Mitchell
2022 (3): Ty Davis-Price
2024 (4): Isaac Guerendo

Five picks, four of them in the first four rounds, and literally none of those guys hit. Mitchell was the best before injuries did him in, but of course he was the second RB we took that year. Williams, Sermon, and Davis-Price were all colossal busts. Guerendo has a chance, but this past year he had fumbling issues, demonstrated poor vision, and couldn't stay healthy. Not holding my breath on that.

By contrast, they added Matt Breida, Jeff Wilson, and Jordan Mason as UDFAs. Each of those three outperformed any of their drafted players (not Mitchell when healthy, maybe).

They also turned dirt cheap FA Raheem Mostert into an impact player.

i agree that this FO has displayed exactly *zero* skill in identifying and drafting good day two RBs. though this RB class is so good it'll be kinda hard to to draft a bust that high, especially in our scheme. now that would be an accomplishment.

like, tbh I wouldn't be totally opposed to taking Skatt or Henderson with our 3rd if they are available, but obviously depending on what we do with our first two picks.

Oh, now you've done it....

[CrimsonCrew]

Just wondering where everyone sits on the system vs. talent spectrum where it’s close. Like would a guy like Ezeruiaku even be on your board, if he was available in like the 3rd, or just wasted pick?

I guess it depends on the fit. If Ezeruiaku is there even in the 2nd, I would strongly consider him. We desperately need pass-rush help opposite Bosa. Ezeruiaku is small, but he's one of the better pass-rushers in this class. And he has good arm length and wingspan. I'd think he could add another 10 pounds without sacrificing much movement (fair chance he dropped weight for the combine anyway). DL should be rotating more than we have been lately, anyway, so no problem for me if we're pairing him with a Sam Okuayinonu, who is taking more of the first- and second-down snaps, and he's coming in as a designated pass-rusher - especially in year one.

As I referenced above, I distinguish that from a guy like Walker, who isn't elite as either a pure pass-rusher or as a LB at this point. I wouldn't take an OG who is elite in power blocking but struggles in the outside zone. But on defense, especially when we're talking someone who can get after the QB, I'm not too worried if they only log 55% of the snaps.

Re: this, I think it's worth revisiting Ezeiruaku specifically. He's really not all that undersized for today's NFL. He's 6' 2.5" and 248 pounds. The weight in particular stands out, but he has the frame to add more. He's got good length with 34" arms and a 82.75" wingspan, though he has small hands at 9.25".

Compared to other guys in this draft, he's about a half-inch shorter and three pounds lighter than Mike Green, but has markedly longer arms. Green has crazy small hands for a DE at 8.5". James Pearce and Princely Umanmielen are both quite a bit taller, but several pounds lighter with shorter arms. Nic Scourton, who I've always viewed as a larger player, is only a quarter-inch taller, weighs 9 pounds more (granted he seemingly shed a lot of weight to get down there), and shorter arms. I wouldn't take a one-dimensional pass-rusher at 11, but if we somehow end up picking in the 20s or 30s, or if Ezeirauku falls to 43, I would definitely consider him.

[clyde21]

my pref at 11:

Dream scenario: Mason Graham

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Second tier scenario: trading down 7-10 picks, picking up an extra second or w/e

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Third tier scenario:

Jihaad Campbell
Jalon Walker
Derrick Harmon

[Harry Palmer]

Just wondering where everyone sits on the system vs. talent spectrum where it’s close. Like would a guy like Ezeruiaku even be on your board, if he was available in like the 3rd, or just wasted pick?

I guess it depends on the fit. If Ezeruiaku is there even in the 2nd, I would strongly consider him. We desperately need pass-rush help opposite Bosa. Ezeruiaku is small, but he's one of the better pass-rushers in this class. And he has good arm length and wingspan. I'd think he could add another 10 pounds without sacrificing much movement (fair chance he dropped weight for the combine anyway). DL should be rotating more than we have been lately, anyway, so no problem for me if we're pairing him with a Sam Okuayinonu, who is taking more of the first- and second-down snaps, and he's coming in as a designated pass-rusher - especially in year one.

As I referenced above, I distinguish that from a guy like Walker, who isn't elite as either a pure pass-rusher or as a LB at this point. I wouldn't take an OG who is elite in power blocking but struggles in the outside zone. But on defense, especially when we're talking someone who can get after the QB, I'm not too worried if they only log 55% of the snaps.

Re: this, I think it's worth revisiting Ezeiruaku specifically. He's really not all that undersized for today's NFL. He's 6' 2.5" and 248 pounds. The weight in particular stands out, but he has the frame to add more. He's got good length with 34" arms and a 82.75" wingspan, though he has small hands at 9.25".

Compared to other guys in this draft, he's about a half-inch shorter and three pounds lighter than Mike Green, but has markedly longer arms. Green has crazy small hands for a DE at 8.5". James Pearce and Princely Umanmielen are both quite a bit taller, but several pounds lighter with shorter arms. Nic Scourton, who I've always viewed as a larger player, is only a quarter-inch taller, weighs 9 pounds more (granted he seemingly shed a lot of weight to get down there), and shorter arms. I wouldn't take a one-dimensional pass-rusher at 11, but if we somehow end up picking in the 20s or 30s, or if Ezeirauku falls to 43, I would definitely consider him.

Do you stick with Membou or Campbell if they’re there at 11? Or you looking Edge either way? I could see Kyle wanting Golden.

Another thing: I’ve been running sims like crazy and in a lot of them Hunter drops to 9 or especially 10. I’d seriously consider moving up if that happens, though that probably means 9; Bears probably drool at pairing him with Caleb. I’m quite fine with Ezeiraku in the 2nd unless someone really drops.

Edit: but generally my best mocks have involved a lot of trading down. We have soooo many holes, more than we’ve had since Kyle and Jed first got here. Edge, DT(s), OL except for Trent and his replacement is probably needed before long, WR, Kittle’s successor though this might wait the longest of our needs, despite the depth this year. LB, CB, Safety with range…and probably a rb. Just Swiss cheese when you really look at it. BA’s injury carrying over is just brutal, might in and of itself make this a retooling/rebuilding year. That’s one reason I love the idea of Hunter dropping, I just think Kyle could have a lot of fun with him, and he potentially fills multiple holes, especially as the secondary ones are role-specific that he fits to a T.

[wco81]

Latest Maiocco mock has the team taking Nolan.

[clyde21]

Day 3 guys I like at several positions (or maybe Day 3?) who would be good fits here

QB:
Brady Cook

RB:
Damien Martinez
Jacory Croskey-Merrit
Jordan James

WR:
Isaac TeSlaa
Chimere Dike
Savion Williams

OL:
Logan Brown (OT)
Jake Majors (C)
Seth McLaughlin (C)
Dylan Fairchild (G)
Connor Colby (G)

TE:
Thomas Fidone
Brant Kuithe (FB converson)

DT:
Ty Robinson
Jamaree Caldwell
Josh Farmer

DE/LB:
Barryn Sorrell (DE)
Collin Oliver (LB)
Kobe King (LB)

CBs:
Mac McWilliams
Cobee Bryant
Jacob Parrish

S:
Billy Bowman
Sebastian Castro
Caleb Ransaw

[CrimsonCrew]

I guess it depends on the fit. If Ezeruiaku is there even in the 2nd, I would strongly consider him. We desperately need pass-rush help opposite Bosa. Ezeruiaku is small, but he's one of the better pass-rushers in this class. And he has good arm length and wingspan. I'd think he could add another 10 pounds without sacrificing much movement (fair chance he dropped weight for the combine anyway). DL should be rotating more than we have been lately, anyway, so no problem for me if we're pairing him with a Sam Okuayinonu, who is taking more of the first- and second-down snaps, and he's coming in as a designated pass-rusher - especially in year one.

As I referenced above, I distinguish that from a guy like Walker, who isn't elite as either a pure pass-rusher or as a LB at this point. I wouldn't take an OG who is elite in power blocking but struggles in the outside zone. But on defense, especially when we're talking someone who can get after the QB, I'm not too worried if they only log 55% of the snaps.

Re: this, I think it's worth revisiting Ezeiruaku specifically. He's really not all that undersized for today's NFL. He's 6' 2.5" and 248 pounds. The weight in particular stands out, but he has the frame to add more. He's got good length with 34" arms and a 82.75" wingspan, though he has small hands at 9.25".

Compared to other guys in this draft, he's about a half-inch shorter and three pounds lighter than Mike Green, but has markedly longer arms. Green has crazy small hands for a DE at 8.5". James Pearce and Princely Umanmielen are both quite a bit taller, but several pounds lighter with shorter arms. Nic Scourton, who I've always viewed as a larger player, is only a quarter-inch taller, weighs 9 pounds more (granted he seemingly shed a lot of weight to get down there), and shorter arms. I wouldn't take a one-dimensional pass-rusher at 11, but if we somehow end up picking in the 20s or 30s, or if Ezeirauku falls to 43, I would definitely consider him.

Do you stick with Membou or Campbell if they’re there at 11? Or you looking Edge either way? I could see Kyle wanting Golden.

Another thing: I’ve been running sims like crazy and in a lot of them Hunter drops to 9 or especially 10. I’d seriously consider moving up if that happens, though that probably means 9; Bears probably drool at pairing him with Caleb. I’m quite fine with Ezeiraku in the 2nd unless someone really drops.

Edit: but generally my best mocks have involved a lot of trading down. We have soooo many holes, more than we’ve had since Kyle and Jed first got here. Edge, DT(s), OL except for Trent and his replacement is probably needed before long, WR, Kittle’s successor though this might wait the longest of our needs, despite the depth this year. LB, CB, Safety with range…and probably a rb. Just Swiss cheese when you really look at it. BA’s injury carrying over is just brutal, might in and of itself make this a retooling/rebuilding year. That’s one reason I love the idea of Hunter dropping, I just think Kyle could have a lot of fun with him, and he potentially fills multiple holes, especially as the secondary ones are role-specific that he fits to a T.

Caveat that I throw out every year except when we drafted Lance and I scouted the QBs pretty hard: I haven't really studied the film on these guys and am primarily basing this off things I've read or heard on podcasts.

Campbell vs. Membou is a tough one for me. Campbell has elite measurables, but his arms are really short and his wingspan is even smaller - and that latter figure actually went down at his pro day. Even if we account for short measurements at the combine and assume Campbell has 33" arms, those are still very short for a starting OT in the NFL. He also has really small hands at 9.5". Two of his three closest physical comparisons are actually Jarrett Kingston and Nick Zakelj, who we drafted to play OG or C.

Campbell would probably have the shortest arms of any OT in the league from day one. Penei Sewell comes in at 33 1/8", but he also has big hands and a tolerable wingspan. Rashawn Slater comes in at 33", but he also has big hands. Campbell is a pretty safe prospect, because at minimum he should be a really good guard or even a center prospect. He's supposed to be a pretty incredible leader and a very well-respected guy. But I do have concerns about the projection at tackle.

Membou has much better length than Campbell, and should be able to stick at OT. But he's never played LT, so he's more of a projection there. He could also play OG if you needed him to. Both guys tested very well. Oddly for players who appear to have really good feet, neither did the agility drills. I think probably they've shown enough on tape not to worry about that too much, but it's odd to me that they didn't do that.

As an aside, I hate that guys who do the agility drills these days tend to get punished for it because they often end up with a lower relative athletic score (RAS) than if they hadn't done the agilities. For example, Campbell has an RAS of 9.88 and Membou of 9.82 while Kelvin Banks did the agilities and now has an RAS of 8.25. It's even more pronounced among WRs and CBs these days (39 WRs ran 40s at the combine, but only 12 did the agilities; only three CBs did the agilities), when those numbers are as important if not more important than the 40 (though the 40 is more important at CB and WR than any other positions). But I think you have to assume that the guys who aren't doing the drills wouldn't exactly crush it.

Anyway, long story longer, I would have some reservations about either player, but would be happy with either one at 11. The top end of this draft just isn't there, so there isn't a complete player at a priority position (or really any position) who is likely to be there at 11. At the end of the day, given their similar athletic profiles, I would probably go with Membou's length as I want an OT. But if we land Campbell, I'll be just fine with it.

[clyde21]

Campbell came in at 33" at his pro day, which I believe more than the combine at this point. Crappy windspan though that's for sure (meaning narrow shoulders + short arms, and he's outlier small in this area).

[Pattersonca65]

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/190069-scout-49ers-shanahan-resist-temptation/

[CrimsonCrew]

Campbell came in at 33" at his pro day, which I believe more than the combine at this point. Crappy windspan though that's for sure (meaning narrow shoulders + short arms, and he's outlier small in this area).

Yeah, I'm assuming 33" is correct. That would still be among the shortest arms at OT in the league. A lot of teams won't even try a guy at OT unless he's got 34" arms. Short arms, really short wingspan (which did not improve), and small hands are a problematic combination. He would be a huge outlier if he becomes an impact OT. That said, given that pretty much every other option at 11 also has pretty significant question marks, I'd be fine with the pick.

Man, Membou also has small hands (9 3/4").

[clyde21]

Josh Simmons would've been clear OT1 if he has healthy, imo

but either way, at 11 I honestly don't want to go OT. a guy like Charles Grant in the 3rd or Logan Brown in the 4th can provide enough coverage in depth and maybe a little more long term. kinda feel the same away about the interior at this point too, a bunch of interior guys I really like between the 2nd-4th rounds.

obviously getting a franchise LT is an ideal scenario, but that's just not gonna happen at 11 right now, but if we can come out of this class with say Milum in the 3rd and Logan Brown in the 4th, I'd feel pretty good about that.

to me I've narrowed it down to Graham (dream scenario if he drops), Jihaad, Walker or Harmon. Maybe Nolen if we trade down a bit. MAYBE Mike Green.

[CrimsonCrew]

Josh Simmons would've been clear OT1 if he has healthy, imo

but either way, at 11 I honestly don't want to go OT. a guy like Charles Grant in the 3rd or Logan Brown in the 4th can provide enough coverage in depth and maybe a little more long term. kinda feel the same away about the interior at this point too, a bunch of interior guys I really like between the 2nd-4th rounds.

obviously getting a franchise LT is an ideal scenario, but that's just not gonna happen at 11 right now, but if we can come out of this class with say Milum in the 3rd and Logan Brown in the 4th, I'd feel pretty good about that.

to me I've narrowed it down to Graham (dream scenario if he drops), Jihaad, Walker or Harmon. Maybe Nolen if we trade down a bit. MAYBE Mike Green.

Yeah, if Simmons was healthy, we wouldn't have a chance of landing him at 11. Even if the injury was an ACL instead of the patellar tendon, I think he'd likely be gone before 11. ACLs are fairly predictable and have a long track record of not proving to be career-ending except in the most extreme cases almost always involving other damage. The same can't be said of patellar injuries right now. And our FO in particular is going to be gun-shy about those given their experiences with McGlinchey and especially Drake Jackson.

I'd love to trade down as I see a fairly huge clump of guys who are similar as prospects. As of now, I would rate my thinking like this looking at the top 20 or so picks on the consensus big board:

Thrilled: Graham, Carter
Happy: Hunter (neither is a huge position of need, but I'd play him at CB, mix him in sometimes at WR, we'd make it work), Membou (maybe)
Content: Campbell (either one, frankly), Banks, Harmon, Nolen (he's been dropping in projections, but I'm not sure why), Green (assuming the character stuff checks out),
Unhappy: Walker, Will Johnson (close to pissed with injury concerns), Barron, Mykel Williams, Starks (close to pissed due to position)
Pissed: Jeanty, Warren, McMillan (almost entirely about the position and our needs, and what it would say about our FO), Stewart, Loveland

I'd be reluctant to take one of the DTs at 11 given the depth at the position. None of the pass rushers really seem worth it (Green the closest, but short arms, tiny hands, and off-field concerns). That's a big part of why I keep coming back to OT.