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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#261 » by Chanel Bomber » Wed Apr 9, 2025 8:57 am

3toheadmelo wrote:trading for mikal might be the worst trade in knicks history

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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#262 » by Spree2Houston » Wed Apr 9, 2025 9:04 am

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Re: knicks lose....i blame thibs 

Post#263 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Apr 9, 2025 9:43 am

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#325 » by 3toheadmelo » April 8th, 2025, 8:27 pm

Thibs out coaching mazulla. Thats my mf coach!


He in fact got outcoached again, multiple times over, an hour later in the second half and overtime
Not playing Mitch over hart
Not having a proper play drawn up to close out regulation, you make hart shoot, why is he even in the game?
Not fouling Tatum up 3
Not having a proper play drawn up down 3 to close the game in OT, (YOU GO TO MIKAL IN THE CORNER INSTEAD OF THE MIDDLE OF COURT TO SET UP A PLAY)

Thibs… sucks so goddamn much


F*cking dinosaur of a coach.
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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#264 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Apr 9, 2025 9:49 am

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#325 » by 3toheadmelo » April 8th, 2025, 8:27 pm

Thibs out coaching mazulla. Thats my mf coach!


He in fact got outcoached again, multiple times over, an hour later in the second half and overtime
Not playing Mitch over hart
Not having a proper play drawn up to close out regulation, you make hart shoot, why is he even in the game?
Not fouling Tatum up 3
Not having a proper play drawn up down 3 to close the game in OT, (YOU GO TO MIKAL IN THE CORNER INSTEAD OF THE MIDDLE OF COURT TO SET UP A PLAY)

Thibs… sucks so goddamn much

It took two games and the team reverted back to exactly what it was before Brunson got injured. He’s not running the team effectively at all and I 100% believe he got outcoached.


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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#265 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Apr 9, 2025 10:00 am

mpharris36 wrote:also even after the game was tied and thibs failed to get his team to foul...what play did we run?

A josh hart the worst shooter on the floor step back...how can you not get the ball into anyone else hands there thibs?

How can you not sub McBride for Hart? 5 shooters on the floor. Not rocket science
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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#266 » by ScienceOfLosing » Wed Apr 9, 2025 10:14 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:trading for mikal might be the worst trade in knicks history


Are you like 10?


Mikal aint the problem, I’ve been saying this
The guy can put up 30 in his sleep
There’s a reason why he thrives in certain situations
Thibs does NOT put any player on the team in a position to win, ever
The whole system is “read and react”… wtf is that??
The individual talent of each member of the team, is the sole reason we can wing games.
Mikal, nor KAT, nor OG is the problem, you’re playing these guys in completely wrong positions. GET A MODERN NBA COACH! The goal is championships, not 50 win seasons


Yep, we are “succeeding” on talent, not coaching.
Not to say Thibs is a terrible coach but he clearly doesn’t use players to their strengths.
He is still bent on pushing round pegs in square holes.
It is a shame as our window is small, especially since we have moved most of our assets.

Lastly, we are less of a TEAM with Brunson cause Thibs relies on him too much.
A better and modern coach would have us humming by now.
But Thibs is fulfilling a childhood dream and coaching with the same “playbook”.
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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#267 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Apr 9, 2025 10:17 am

spree2kawhi wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:trading for mikal might be the worst trade in knicks history


Are you like 10?

Forget it, he doesn’t even try.

What’s your excuse now for mikal once again disappearing against a contender?
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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#268 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Apr 9, 2025 10:20 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:trading for mikal might be the worst trade in knicks history

We paid 50 bucks for a mediocre CD album with a poorly designed booklet

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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#269 » by Iron Mantis » Wed Apr 9, 2025 10:26 am

We've had the talent to beat elite teams all along, but can't beat anyone because the orc is holding this team back, especially offensively.

His in-game decision-making has always been terrible. This is nothing new.

Wait till he does more weird crap in the playoffs....

You think Leon and Dolan can't see and can't hear?

Enjoyed the orc's last season coaching in NY...
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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#270 » by Reign23 » Wed Apr 9, 2025 10:30 am

just finished. Disappointing loss, but I think we are there now. KAT and Brunson were All NBA level, but our wings couldn't catch up.
Still nice game tho.
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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#271 » by Reign23 » Wed Apr 9, 2025 10:39 am

Guano wrote:I really wanted to be able to buy into the lie of us having a shot during the playoffs but we have a dumb coach a sg who is suspect kat is a big dummy and Brunson isn't right. Brutal loss.

I mean... if a "big dummy" gives you 34 and 14 on 67% shooting I would love to have some more of them.
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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#272 » by Reign23 » Wed Apr 9, 2025 10:41 am

mpharris36 wrote:Mikal scored 9 pts in the last 7 mins of the 4th qtr. I can't some of you seriously.

You foul up 3 with less than 10 seconds every time...how is that even a question?

yes, we should have fouled.... Mikal still sucked, tho. I am not completely out on him, because he is a good player, but that trade looks beyond brutal.
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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#273 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Apr 9, 2025 10:44 am

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Capn'O wrote:There'd be a ton of interest in the job if it became available. On that note...


nedleeds wrote:Too bad we drafted Dennis Smith Jr instead of KP

You really want to ram an icepick through your balls, the Celtics traded less for KP and Derrick White than we did for Five Pick Mik.


That's one of the advantages of being a good team. Players want to play there and you get good deals. We need to make good deals and we can continue to improve.

We won't and we won't. The same donkey front office that signed Kemba Walker to 2 guaranteed, traded Grimes and 5 1sts and a swap for Homeless Tony Campbell isn't saving this franchise or maiing a 'good deal'. Same braintrust that extended R_ a year early? The only good deal was hiring Rick Brunson and paying him under the table to get Jalen here. Even that took cooperation from the actual worst FO in Dallas.

There are no good deals other than hoping another team is dumb enough to trade 4 1sts for Brunson.
Hoping OG stays out of a walking boot long enough to fetch 3 1sts.
No other contract has positive value.

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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#274 » by Reign23 » Wed Apr 9, 2025 10:47 am

spree8 wrote:Still can’t believe people didn’t want KP back

We fire Thibs yet?

he is playing 40 games a year, what are you talking about. there is basically no pressure for him in Boston because he can be the 4th-5th option on some nights. that wouldn't happen here and you guys would drive him to the airport.
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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#275 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Apr 9, 2025 10:55 am

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mpharris36 wrote:also even after the game was tied and thibs failed to get his team to foul...what play did we run?

A josh hart the worst shooter on the floor step back...how can you not get the ball into anyone else hands there thibs?

How can you not sub McBride for Hart? 5 shooters on the floor. Not rocket science


Not modern basketball either.

Leon should be on the phone with Taylor Jenkins' agent after that.
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Post#276 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Apr 9, 2025 10:56 am

If there is one thing i learned from this game, it is that Mitch can guard Tatum much better than Mikalikina.
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Post#278 » by FrozenEnvelope » Wed Apr 9, 2025 11:18 am

FrozenEnvelope wrote:Moral victory and it shows we can compete and take them to 5-6 games which is the ceiling this year like it or not.


I take it back. We can beat them but everyone from the trolls here to the water boy to Thibs to players must bring their A plus game and we need a lot of luck! But we can beat them.

Gotta figure out their 3 point attempts and fix that end of the game execution on both ends and we cannot miss FT's and give up 20 plus off to's and foul on 3pt attempts. And if we are up 3, we **** foul!
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Re: knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs 

Post#279 » by WargamesX » Wed Apr 9, 2025 11:18 am

3toheadmelo wrote:If there is one thing i learned from this game, it is that Mitch can guard Tatum much better than Mikalikina.

To be fair Mikal is a 2 guard and should be on Brown, OG is a SF pretending to be a PF because we don’t have a starting PF on the roster.

This summer we need to get a starting PF move Hart to the bench and move Mikal to SG and OG to SF….
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Post#280 » by R-DAWG » Wed Apr 9, 2025 11:26 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:If there is one thing i learned from this game, it is that Mitch can guard Tatum much better than Mikalikina.

To be fair Mikal is a 2 guard and should be on Brown, OG is a SF pretending to be a PF because we don’t have a starting PF on the roster.

This summer we need to get a starting PF move Hart to the bench and move Mikal to SG and OG to SF….


In short we over invested in Mikal and OG, then played them out of position and limited their effectiveness (not to mention the redundancy in their games). It’s really awful asset allocation and outside of trading one of Bridges/Mikal the paths to building out the roster are so limited. I am our paths forward are trading Mitch Robinson and hoping what 2nd rd picks we can cobble together bring in an upgrade, the taxpayer MLE, or getting lucky with a 2nd rd pick.

It’s hard to criticize Leon because the organization has had more success over the last 5 years than the previous 25, and they are set up to be a top-4 seed for the next handful of years. But in terms of future flexibility, they are in as bad of shape if not worse than any team in the league.

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