Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion

[Richard4444]

Knicks going to package Mitch and Josh Hart, most of the kids, plus picks, and involve a 3rd team for cap space, to land KD.

We can't. Brunson, Mikal, OG, KD, KAT totalizes 205,8M. we cant complete the roster and keep under 2 apron (207,8M).

[Richard4444]

Is this also acting as the draft thread? I know we don't need another scorer but I just really like the smoothness of Clayton Jr's game. He doesn't have great NBA athleticism, but he uses off ball movement & his handle really well to get his shot off. Some mocks have him in the teens and we have #17 as of now (I think from MIL). Clearly we're going to prioritize a big man but I would def be interested in bringing him in.

If they do go with a big man, I liked what I saw from JT Toppin, who's slotted for late lottery right now. Very interesting player who kind of stood out to me.

I am full of Toppins...

[knicksstuff]

Is this also acting as the draft thread? I know we don't need another scorer but I just really like the smoothness of Clayton Jr's game. He doesn't have great NBA athleticism, but he uses off ball movement & his handle really well to get his shot off. Some mocks have him in the teens and we have #17 as of now (I think from MIL). Clearly we're going to prioritize a big man but I would def be interested in bringing him in.

If they do go with a big man, I liked what I saw from JT Toppin, who's slotted for late lottery right now. Very interesting player who kind of stood out to me.

We have no first round picks that MIL pick went to the Nets in the Mikal Trade

[dakomish23]

Is this also acting as the draft thread? I know we don't need another scorer but I just really like the smoothness of Clayton Jr's game. He doesn't have great NBA athleticism, but he uses off ball movement & his handle really well to get his shot off. Some mocks have him in the teens and we have #17 as of now (I think from MIL). Clearly we're going to prioritize a big man but I would def be interested in bringing him in.

If they do go with a big man, I liked what I saw from JT Toppin, who's slotted for late lottery right now. Very interesting player who kind of stood out to me.

We have no first round picks that MIL pick went to the Nets in the Mikal Trade

NBA draft net says we have it. I’ll double check

[dakomish23]

we have #17 as of now

Went to Brooklyn in the Bridges trade

We have the better of Memphis and Boston's 2nd rounders, and that's it

And the protections on Washington's 1st expire next year, so if they suck again, we get 2nds instead of a 1st.

You’re right. I went off NBA draft net like an idiot

[HopelessKnick]

Whom would you guys prefer for our team the upcoming season if you had to choose (disregarding contracts/cap situation etc.):

KAT or Myles Turner?

May sound crazy at first glance but Myles is an elite defender and rim protector that has developed into a very good 3 point shooter as well. Totally switchable and can guard the perimeter well. Wish there was a way to get Turner here. If we could magically turn KAT into Turner + Nesmith, I think this team would take a big big jump.

[HopelessKnick]

One more name I'll throw out there since he is a CAA guy and FA----Santiago Aldama....7-footer with a really nice offensive game an touch. 24-years old and could develop into a 16point-18point/8rebound type of guy. Don't know what his defense looks like. If it is anywhere near workable he could be a nice pickup.

[spree2kawhi]

Whom would you guys prefer for our team the upcoming season if you had to choose (disregarding contracts/cap situation etc.):

KAT or Myles Turner?

May sound crazy at first glance but Myles is an elite defender and rim protector that has developed into a very good 3 point shooter as well. Totally switchable and can guard the perimeter well. Wish there was a way to get Turner here. If we could magically turn KAT into Turner + Nesmith, I think this team would take a big big jump.

The answer is both. But teams are not waiting in line to trade us their good players, and this is particularly why I would hope this board could show more gratitude towards and patience with what has already been accomplished so far.

I know Towns is not Jokic and not Giannis, but he is clearly next in line. Bridges may not be Jimmy Butler or Jaylen Brown, but his contract fits under our cap and he is very useful and versatile. He has proven to be capable of being everything we need. You just don’t find many players like that. Why not be patient and see how this goes.

Remember that Tatum and Brown have come up short many times before and neither SGA nor Donovan Mitchell are champions already.

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks going to package Mitch and Josh Hart, most of the kids, plus picks, and involve a 3rd team for cap space, to land KD.

We can't. Brunson, Mikal, OG, KD, KAT totalizes 205,8M. we cant complete the roster and keep under 2 apron (207,8M).

Looks like Knicks will have to put Brunson in the deal then!

[blog_pistons]

This was for the piston thread. I made a mistake. Sorry.
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[spree8]

wtf?

[Jalen Bluntson]

Whom would you guys prefer for our team the upcoming season if you had to choose (disregarding contracts/cap situation etc.):

KAT or Myles Turner?

May sound crazy at first glance but Myles is an elite defender and rim protector that has developed into a very good 3 point shooter as well. Totally switchable and can guard the perimeter well. Wish there was a way to get Turner here. If we could magically turn KAT into Turner + Nesmith, I think this team would take a big big jump.

The answer is both. But teams are not waiting in line to trade us their good players, and this is particularly why I would hope this board could show more gratitude towards and patience with what has already been accomplished so far.

I know Towns is not Jokic and not Giannis, but he is clearly next in line. Bridges may not be Jimmy Butler or Jaylen Brown, but his contract fits under our cap and he is very useful and versatile. He has proven to be capable of being everything we need. You just don’t find many players like that. Why not be patient and see how this goes.

Remember that Tatum and Brown have come up short many times before and neither SGA nor Donovan Mitchell are champions already.

We have one of the best teams in the league. People talking about trading KAT/Mikal/OG etc are ridiculous. Tatum and Brown were being called overrated or overpaid etc. Now they are champions. People have been shytting on KAT/Mikal since they got here. People were trashing the Brunson and OG contracts. They did the same with Hart when we paid him. Somehow they never like players on our team but, they blow and crow for players on every other team.

I am waiting to see what the team looks like healthy and at peak performance. That might not be until next year. Enjoying the ride mostly.

[sol537]

I really like the Clayton kid too. Smooth operator like Brunson. If we could trade up somehow to snag him I think he could develop into a nice 6th man type.

[3toheadmelo]

Anyone comparing us to Tatum and Brown is hilarious. Tatum took them to the ECF as a ROOKIE

[sol537]

It's crazy to think that there's a possibility that one or both or Giannis and/or Jokic could become available within the next 1-12 months.

CRAZY!

KAT + Bridges (or Hart) is a pretty good starting point...

[KnicksGadfly]

Whom would you guys prefer for our team the upcoming season if you had to choose (disregarding contracts/cap situation etc.):

KAT or Myles Turner?

May sound crazy at first glance but Myles is an elite defender and rim protector that has developed into a very good 3 point shooter as well. Totally switchable and can guard the perimeter well. Wish there was a way to get Turner here. If we could magically turn KAT into Turner + Nesmith, I think this team would take a big big jump.

The answer is both. But teams are not waiting in line to trade us their good players, and this is particularly why I would hope this board could show more gratitude towards and patience with what has already been accomplished so far.

I know Towns is not Jokic and not Giannis, but he is clearly next in line. Bridges may not be Jimmy Butler or Jaylen Brown, but his contract fits under our cap and he is very useful and versatile. He has proven to be capable of being everything we need. You just don’t find many players like that. Why not be patient and see how this goes.

Remember that Tatum and Brown have come up short many times before and neither SGA nor Donovan Mitchell are champions already.

Yep. Both is what we need. KAT at PF, Myles at C. Not sure if anything will happen at that end.

If we're going to use your analogy, though, Tatum is also a step below someone like Jokic or Giannis. He can still win rings, but he just needs a little bit more help than some of the top MVP candidates. And then I have KAT a big step below them.

I'm not sure about KAT...I think the fact is that we know his amazing offense offsets his bad defense at C, but he's getting taken out of the game too much by good teams. Part of this is on Thibs and part of that is on KAT. So either we figure out how to get KAT going enough that he's going to be a complete killer at C so that no one gives an eff, or we move him to PF so he can get his defense back, or both. That first option is tough, too. You have guys like Embiid who can combine HOF offense with defense, or Jokic who is a triple double PG in a C body with at least average defense.

[HopelessKnick]

Whom would you guys prefer for our team the upcoming season if you had to choose (disregarding contracts/cap situation etc.):

KAT or Myles Turner?

May sound crazy at first glance but Myles is an elite defender and rim protector that has developed into a very good 3 point shooter as well. Totally switchable and can guard the perimeter well. Wish there was a way to get Turner here. If we could magically turn KAT into Turner + Nesmith, I think this team would take a big big jump.

The answer is both. But teams are not waiting in line to trade us their good players, and this is particularly why I would hope this board could show more gratitude towards and patience with what has already been accomplished so far.

I know Towns is not Jokic and not Giannis, but he is clearly next in line. Bridges may not be Jimmy Butler or Jaylen Brown, but his contract fits under our cap and he is very useful and versatile. He has proven to be capable of being everything we need. You just don’t find many players like that. Why not be patient and see how this goes.

Remember that Tatum and Brown have come up short many times before and neither SGA nor Donovan Mitchell are champions already.

Yep. Both is what we need. KAT at PF, Myles at C. Not sure if anything will happen at that end.

If we're going to use your analogy, though, Tatum is also a step below someone like Jokic or Giannis. He can still win rings, but he just needs a little bit more help than some of the top MVP candidates. And then I have KAT a big step below them.

I'm not sure about KAT...I think the fact is that we know his amazing offense offsets his bad defense at C, but he's getting taken out of the game too much by good teams. Part of this is on Thibs and part of that is on KAT. So either we figure out how to get KAT going enough that he's going to be a complete killer at C so that no one gives an eff, or we move him to PF so he can get his defense back, or both. That first option is tough, too. You have guys like Embiid who can combine HOF offense with defense, or Jokic who is a triple double PG in a C body with at least average defense.

For me the biggest question since Mitch's return has been why we haven't since KAT/Mitch more. Maybe Mitch is still on a minutes restriction or something or maybe due to Hukporti's season ending injury they want to keep Mitch as a backup. I don't know, I just hope Mitch can get up to 25minutes during the playoffs....otherwise all discussion are moot for this playoffs anyways.

[HopelessKnick]

Whom would you guys prefer for our team the upcoming season if you had to choose (disregarding contracts/cap situation etc.):

KAT or Myles Turner?

May sound crazy at first glance but Myles is an elite defender and rim protector that has developed into a very good 3 point shooter as well. Totally switchable and can guard the perimeter well. Wish there was a way to get Turner here. If we could magically turn KAT into Turner + Nesmith, I think this team would take a big big jump.

The answer is both. But teams are not waiting in line to trade us their good players, and this is particularly why I would hope this board could show more gratitude towards and patience with what has already been accomplished so far.

I know Towns is not Jokic and not Giannis, but he is clearly next in line. Bridges may not be Jimmy Butler or Jaylen Brown, but his contract fits under our cap and he is very useful and versatile. He has proven to be capable of being everything we need. You just don’t find many players like that. Why not be patient and see how this goes.

Remember that Tatum and Brown have come up short many times before and neither SGA nor Donovan Mitchell are champions already.

But why do you refer to Bridges' current contract? It will expire after next season and his new contract is going to be much more than that. The way you mentioned it a couple times you had me unsure whether I had missed something and his contract runs for 3 more years or so. I essentially consider Bridges an expiring who will get a much bigger extension probably this offseason already. In your judgment of Bridges, his contract plays a big role---you have argued his abilities in relation to his contract a couple times in the other thread as well. To me that argument, while technically valid this season and next, really his core contract with the Knicks will be a 5year/180million+ contract.

[spree2kawhi]

Whom would you guys prefer for our team the upcoming season if you had to choose (disregarding contracts/cap situation etc.):

KAT or Myles Turner?

May sound crazy at first glance but Myles is an elite defender and rim protector that has developed into a very good 3 point shooter as well. Totally switchable and can guard the perimeter well. Wish there was a way to get Turner here. If we could magically turn KAT into Turner + Nesmith, I think this team would take a big big jump.

The answer is both. But teams are not waiting in line to trade us their good players, and this is particularly why I would hope this board could show more gratitude towards and patience with what has already been accomplished so far.

I know Towns is not Jokic and not Giannis, but he is clearly next in line. Bridges may not be Jimmy Butler or Jaylen Brown, but his contract fits under our cap and he is very useful and versatile. He has proven to be capable of being everything we need. You just don’t find many players like that. Why not be patient and see how this goes.

Remember that Tatum and Brown have come up short many times before and neither SGA nor Donovan Mitchell are champions already.

But why do you refer to Bridges' current contract? It will expire after next season and his new contract is going to be much more than that. The way you mentioned it a couple times you had me unsure whether I had missed something and his contract runs for 3 more years or so. I essentially consider Bridges an expiring who will get a much bigger extension probably this offseason already. In your judgment of Bridges, his contract plays a big role---you have argued his abilities in relation to his contract a couple times in the other thread as well. To me that argument, while technically valid this season and next, really his core contract with the Knicks will be a 5year/180million+ contract.

It’s as simple as me being tired of people complaining about the acquisition, but failing to acknowledge that he is a high impact player at a salary that we could squeeze under our threshold. Brunson had to leave money on the table and Bridges is much better than other players at his salary. Everybody only talks about the picks, but salary matters because we couldn’t pay other good players. People complain about Bridges and throw around names like a salary cap doesn’t even exist. Not everybody is always available. It doesn’t matter what he will cost, he is signed through 26 and outplays his salary.

[Knicksfan1992]

All I've learned so far from this thread is that Myles Turner has somehow become the most overrated player in the league in Indiana of all places