knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs

[prophet_of_rage]

#325 » by 3toheadmelo » April 8th, 2025, 8:27 pm

Thibs out coaching mazulla. Thats my mf coach!

He in fact got outcoached again, multiple times over, an hour later in the second half and overtime
Not playing Mitch over hart
Not having a proper play drawn up to close out regulation, you make hart shoot, why is he even in the game?
Not fouling Tatum up 3
Not having a proper play drawn up down 3 to close the game in OT, (YOU GO TO MIKAL IN THE CORNER INSTEAD OF THE MIDDLE OF COURT TO SET UP A PLAY)

Thibs… sucks so goddamn much

What would you have drawn up? And who would be on the floor? What wpuld be the options?

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[Gravy]

Will the minutes police say anything about Mazulla playing Tatum 48 minutes in a meaningless game at the end of the season where their second best player is injured and also played?

Stop ignoring context to make lazy arguments. This was an OT game and the reason he had to play this much is b/c their other main guy was injured. Really? You thought this game was the time to push this?

They used an 8 man rotation, are you telling me they only have 8 players on their whole roster? Shouldn't they have developed their 9th-12 guys so Tatum wouldn't have to play this many minutes

[prophet_of_rage]

If there is one thing i learned from this game, it is that Mitch can guard Tatum much better than Mikalikina.

To be fair Mikal is a 2 guard and should be on Brown, OG is a SF pretending to be a PF because we don’t have a starting PF on the roster.

This summer we need to get a starting PF move Hart to the bench and move Mikal to SG and OG to SF….

Problem is Tatum is their PF.

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[prophet_of_rage]

Will the minutes police say anything about Mazulla playing Tatum 48 minutes in a meaningless game at the end of the season where their second best player is injured and also played?

No.

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[mpharris36]

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[prophet_of_rage]

Thibs continues to make dumb decisions in critical moments. He continues to run ISO crap from 25 feet out in crunch time. Unless the players bail him out with incredible shot making, we are going to lose these close games.

You keep belaboring this point in every post game thread the Knicks lose a close game but exactly what exotic sets did Mazzulla run at the end of the game that Thibs didn't run?

Was it the falling out of bounds 3 that Tatum took in an iso against KAT that he got bailed out on?

Or was it the last second ridiculous step back over the Knicks best defender by Tatum?

What was the magical set that Thibs couldn't possibly comprehend or run on those plays that gave Boston the edge?

Shhh ... men have hurt feelings today.

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[kNicksGmen]

it's been talked about since before the season began and at this point thibs dropped the ball by never making a move... but hart should not be starting nor playing 35+ minutes. he should be a hustle guy off the bench that plays 20-30 mins a game and occasionally closes when he's playing well and/or deuce isn't or matchup specific.

i can see it now the knicks down 1-2 or 1-3 and thibs changes the starting lineup to begin the 2nd half out of desperation. dude just refuses to make this change for whatever reason.

i get there were injuries etc and there isn't an ideal replacement due to deuce being small and mitch isn't reliable to be healthy.

at this point mitch probably should start but only play like 4-5 minutes before hart and deuce come in. if we're not actually going to play 5 out then at least we would have the size and defense mitch brings.

as others have said, ideally the knicks can acquire someone that moves hart to the bench in the offseason. if 5 out is the goal it just needs to be a wing with decent size that can shoot. if we're sticking with thibs they're probably better off just getting a playable 5 that starts with Kat.

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So it isn't just Thibs?

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[mpharris36]

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OG said he should have fouled...but there was complete confusion on the play. No one looking to foul, the coach not animated on the sideline to foul.

Clearly the plan was not to foul or they didn't discuss the situation in the timeout before we made it a 3pt game...if it was Thibs would have been more animated on the sideline. He was just standing and watching.

You simply can't let there best player walk the ball up the court with approx 10 seconds left and take a relatively clean look to tie the game.

Thibs could straight up murder someone on the sideline and some of you would be like...well did he deserve it?

[Guano]

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OG said he should have fouled...but there was complete confusion on the play. No one looking to foul, the coach not animated on the sideline to foul.

Clearly the plan was not to foul or they didn't discuss the situation in the timeout before we made it a 3pt game...if it was Thibs would have been more animated on the sideline. He was just standing and watching.

You simply can't let there best player walk the ball up the court with approx 10 seconds left and take a relatively clean look to tie the game.

Thibs could straight up murder someone on the sideline and some of you would be like...well did he deserve it?

Why is kat even defending the paint... a 2 doesnt hurt and their C isnt hitting a 3. Also run a double at Tatum if you're foolishly not gonna foul. It's just terrible coaching that cost us the game.

[Guano]

Thibs continues to make dumb decisions in critical moments. He continues to run ISO crap from 25 feet out in crunch time. Unless the players bail him out with incredible shot making, we are going to lose these close games.

You keep belaboring this point in every post game thread the Knicks lose a close game but exactly what exotic sets did Mazzulla run at the end of the game that Thibs didn't run?

Was it the falling out of bounds 3 that Tatum took in an iso against KAT that he got bailed out on?

Or was it the last second ridiculous step back over the Knicks best defender by Tatum?

What was the magical set that Thibs couldn't possibly comprehend or run on those plays that gave Boston the edge?

They had Tatum taking their game winner we had jHart. Doesn't even have to be elaborate just better than stupid.

This is being willingly obtuse, and for what, you've watched us all season so you've had to see the handful of dumb things happen at the end of games this season that lead to questioning the coaching.

[mpharris36]

So it isn't just Thibs?

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OG said he should have fouled...but there was complete confusion on the play. No one looking to foul, the coach not animated on the sideline to foul.

Clearly the plan was not to foul or they didn't discuss the situation in the timeout before we made it a 3pt game...if it was Thibs would have been more animated on the sideline. He was just standing and watching.

You simply can't let there best player walk the ball up the court with approx 10 seconds left and take a relatively clean look to tie the game.

Thibs could straight up murder someone on the sideline and some of you would be like...well did he deserve it?

Why is kat even defending the paint... a 2 doesnt hurt and their C isnt hitting a 3. Also run a double at Tatum if you're foolishly not gonna foul. It's just terrible coaching that cost us the game.

yup the only other acceptable answer...is to double Tatum...so Hart goes to tatum...Mikal pushes up to White...and KAT leaves Kornet open underneath to rotate to Jrue Holiday (because a 2 doesn't hurt you). That would be the only potential acceptable answer.

But still he could have swung the ball to KP who has over a foot height advantage over Brunson....so again that is why you foul. You put Mitch in to rebound and then you play the long game.

[SOMEKnicks]

It is all part of Thibs's master plan.

Like the medieval Mongolians, he is feigning weakness and retreat to lure our enemies into complacency.

And then he will DESTROY them!

[kNicksGmen]

fun stat. knicks have 38 wins against teams below .500. that is tied with the cavs for most in the league. next closest are celtics and OKC with 36.

knicks wins against teams .500 or better - 12. tied with 5 teams for 15-19th ranked. tied with the spurs, suns, bucks and grizzlies.

I knew it was bad but those are eye popping numbers.

knicks next 3 are against teams over .500 so that total can hopefully change.... but man. not a good look going into the playoffs.

[Gant]

It is all part of Thibs's master plan.

Like the medieval Mongolians, he is feigning weakness and retreat to lure our enemies into complacency.

And then he will DESTROY them!

It was a good plan, but instead it made Mazzulla hyper-vigilant.

Head coach Joe Mazzulla echoed almost the exact sentiment, only he, very on-brandly, explained how sweeping the season series could actually be a bad thing.

“It means nothing. If anything, it’s more dangerous for us,” said Mazzulla. “Thinking one, that we’re going to get to the second round – we may not get there.

https://www.audacy.com/weei/sports/celtics/takeaways-celtics-make-more-history-in-win-over-knicks

[knicks94]

My theory is that either Thibs is an absolute imbecil or he was ordered by Silver to hand over the game to Boston at the last minute.

[Spree2Houston]

Thibs know this is year 1 of the team. They need to go through adversity and grow as a team over the summer. In a few years when our best guys will be in their mid 30s and Tatum/Brown will be starting their 30s, we’ll have that vet grown man strength to take down the Celtics. Just be patient and enjoy this beautiful journey. Peace, Love, Coco Puffs yall

[Enzo954]

Will the minutes police say anything about Mazulla playing Tatum 48 minutes in a meaningless game at the end of the season where their second best player is injured and also played?

I wouldn't call it meaningless from the Celtics point of view. They wanted to make a statement since we're probably facing them in the 2nd round and they've owned us all season. True it wasn't a blow out and a close game, but they let us know that when the pressures on, they will out play us and out coach us. It was demoralizing!

[spree2kawhi]

Are you like 10?

Forget it, he doesn’t even try.

What’s your excuse now for mikal once again disappearing against a contender?

Close game. It happens. He should be better.

[mpharris36]

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terrible defense from brunson...just stay in a good defensive stance and no reason to gamble and reach with the shot clock running down. That forces KAT to have to switch and leave KP and then Brunson is too late to recover.

If Brunson just doesn't gamble they will be forced to take a contested shot.