PG Minnesota: Porter and Bucks slaughter Wolves

[raferfenix]

I can't rule out the possibility that the Clippers gave us younger version FTD John Salmons. I'd still be very nervous re-signing him to a big contract this offseason, for completely different reasons. Just gonna enjoy the run while it lasts.

For the Dame haters:

Ewing breaking down in 1999 made way for Marcus Camby to emerge and the 8th seeded Knicks to play a different style putting them over the top for a finals run.

https://www.theringer.com/2019/04/03/nba/new-york-knicks-1998-99-patrick-ewing-larry-johnson

[raferfenix]

Alright i think i figured out the kpj situation

Non tax payer mle is projected at 14.1 next season.

Two years at 14.1 with a player option for year two.
In the following off-season, he declines player option to re sign for 175% of previous salary (24.7m) for whatever length he wants. After that, we have full bird rights and he extends the Giannis window

Thats realistic. Thats happening.

What needs to happen for us to have the non-taxpayer MLE?

[Bernman]

Alright i think i figured out the kpj situation

Non tax payer mle is projected at 14.1 next season.

Two years at 14.1 with a player option for year two.
In the following off-season, he declines player option to re sign for 175% of previous salary (24.7m) for whatever length he wants. After that, we have full bird rights and he extends the Giannis window

Thats realistic. Thats happening.

That's what I wanted to tell those saying this. What, do you think someone was offering him a contract starting at 20m/yr, given his off the court history, he had a rough 1st half this season, and so far is a bench player here? Of course not.

And if anyone offers close to what we do, you figure he takes our deal, cuz it's been a good match thus far. He needs a place to call home.

If the Bucks commit enough of their MLE to him, he's pretty much coming back. I'd prioritize him far over Trent, who's just an offensive player and not a primary one. He's a bonus. The only complication is how to get a starting caliber center here. The solution may be to trade Dame for a good one, and another player, while saving salary. Then KPJ replaces Dame as point and #2 option.

What needs to happen for us to have the non-taxpayer MLE?

We need to exist. We already have it.

[Ron Swanson]

I can't rule out the possibility that the Clippers gave us younger version FTD John Salmons. I'd still be very nervous re-signing him to a big contract this offseason, for completely different reasons. Just gonna enjoy the run while it lasts.

He already had a big season for the Rockets, so it's a false-equivalency. Basically he'd have done this in 2 straight seasons since turning 22, w/ the rough half season for another team after his hiatus.

That's why I said "younger" version. The talent/upside isn't the question like it was for 30-year old journeyman Sal. We all know the red flags at this point though. I'll feel a lot better if we get a full summer where he stays out of trouble.

[BUCKnation]

I will say Doc has been really solid at making in game changes with the lineup, unfortunately, it's mainly his mistakes that get us in a losing position or unnecessarily tough game.

[Bernman]

I will say Doc has been really solid at making in game changes with the lineup, unfortunately, it's mainly his mistakes that get us in a losing position or unnecessarily tough game.

"They will always do the right thing, after they've tried everything else" - Winston Churchill about Americans. Doc is just being patriotic.

[Wonka]

So happy to have Bobby back. He had some defensive mistakes last night, and he always will, but the effort and energy is unmatched. It's an intangible that we deeply needed.

[emunney]

Alright i think i figured out the kpj situation

Non tax payer mle is projected at 14.1 next season.

Two years at 14.1 with a player option for year two.
In the following off-season, he declines player option to re sign for 175% of previous salary (24.7m) for whatever length he wants. After that, we have full bird rights and he extends the Giannis window

Thats realistic. Thats happening.

What needs to happen for us to have the non-taxpayer MLE?

1st apron is estimated at ~196m next year according to spotrac, so it'd just be about deciding what happens with Brook and Bobby, really, and then working around being hard capped at that level. The challenge isn't creating the space so much as dealing with the ramifications.

[buckboy]

Minor thing, but the pass Giannis made to AJ in the corner was absolutely incredible.

In transition, one-handed, left-handed on his hands.

Wow.

[soxperry]

Alright i think i figured out the kpj situation

Non tax payer mle is projected at 14.1 next season.

Two years at 14.1 with a player option for year two.
In the following off-season, he declines player option to re sign for 175% of previous salary (24.7m) for whatever length he wants. After that, we have full bird rights and he extends the Giannis window

Thats realistic. Thats happening.

What needs to happen for us to have the non-taxpayer MLE?

Essentially, we just need our team salary to be below the first apron.

If Bobby doesn't opt in, its hard. We would only have 28.5 to split between he, Brook and Rollins.

If he opts in at about 13.5, we can then pay Brook 10 and Rollins 5 and then extend him next off-season when Pat is off the books. Kuzma's declining contract also gives some room for this. 10 doesn't seem like a lot for Brook but its about what Horford signed for in his age 37 season.

If we are able to move Pat, the whole situation is much, much more easy.

I think now i see the added dimension of the Khris trade. There just isnt a realistic route to using the full mle unless we shed as much salary as we did.

[Ron Swanson]

Doc deserves kudos for precisely the amount of time between now and the very next game when he'll inevitably go back to starting Rollins/Prince/Kuzma on the perimeter and everyone will sigh and realize that he's still learned nothing. "Single game +/- can be misleading " quantifier and all, but the 4 other starters beside Giannis being -18, -15, -15, and -11 says it all. And those aren't all "bad" players. Doc just has absolutely no clue how to structure sensible lineups, and our only hope is that he falls ass backwards into something that works (like last night).

[RookieOfTheYear]

Looking back, I said this was the best game I've ever been to. I do think game 6 to win the championship was higher. And possibly Mo williams game winner against the pacers during 2005-06. But that's it. Still buzzing from this win. I think this game may have convinced me to get first round playoff tickets.

[Prez]

There was an interview/presser recently where Doc mentioned he really likes the big lineup with Prince/Kuz alongside Giannis/Brook. I still think the dude is a moron with no idea of how to optimize lineups around our best player(s) and I'm not giving him credit for stumbling into lineups that work in the 4th quarter of a game we were down 20+ because of his own idiotic decisions. It is April 9th and we're still starting an objectively stupid starting 5 that all the evidence points to it being stupid. Figure this **** out from the opening tip and then maybe I'll change my tune.

[MickeyDavis]

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[BUCKnation]

Doc deserves kudos for precisely the amount of time between now and the very next game when he'll inevitably go back to starting Rollins/Prince/Kuzma on the perimeter and everyone will sigh and realize that he's still learned nothing. "Single game +/- can be misleading " quantifier and all, but the 4 other starters beside Giannis being -18, -15, -15, and -11 says it all. And those aren't all "bad" players. Doc just has absolutely no clue how to structure sensible lineups, and our only hope is that he falls ass backwards into something that works (like last night).

Yeah, he's found stuff that works, either by luck or skill at the end of some of these games, but keeps reverting to that trash 'jumbo' lineup.

I was talking with one of my friends who is a Wolves fan and I was like it's a miracle Giannis is +3 when we were down like 17, given he's played so much with the awful starting lineup that was heavy in the minus. Then the comeback kept going and he was like well he's a lot better than +3 and I was like look at the lineup differences.

[Profound23]

Looking back, I said this was the best game I've ever been to. I do think game 6 to win the championship was higher. And possibly Mo Williams game winner against the pacers during 2005-06. But that's it. Still buzzing from this win. I think this game may have convinced me to get first round playoff tickets.

I was also at game 6 to win the championship and Mo Williams buzzer beater. Wish I was there last night. What a game!

Mo Williams buzzer beater was the best nonplayoff game I was ever at. Mostly because so many people left thinking it was over and my friend and I moved down to almost courtside, midcourt seats for the final minute. The few people who stayed were louder than most Bradley Center/Fiserv crowds when they're full.

[MickeyDavis]

The best we can hope for is he learned from last night and will keep making in game adjustments. It has to be fluid. Giannis + the bench isn't always going to work. Porter averaging 32 MPG the last 3 is a good sign. Kuzma the last 3 games, 26 MPG, the 3 games before that, 34 MPG.

[JimmyTheKid]

Looking back, I said this was the best game I've ever been to. I do think game 6 to win the championship was higher. And possibly Mo williams game winner against the pacers during 2005-06. But that's it. Still buzzing from this win. I think this game may have convinced me to get first round playoff tickets.

I mean... I hope so. I was euphorically hugging strangers and crying tears of joy. Had a weeklong body buzz that wasn't caused by any narcotic, but instead the exorcising of years and years and years of bad basketball demons.

I was also at the Mo Williams buzzer beater game. Left with a minute and change on the clock. When I got home, my roommate was wasted by himself on our apartment floor, celebrating the dramatic win, fist and foot pumping. He goes "you didn't f***ing leave did you?" and rightly roasted me for about a month.

[Dick Tate]

I'm going to be pretty happy if Bobby taking all of Kuzma's 4th quarter minutes is the norm.

[M-C-G]

I turned off the game after the 3rd. Watching the replay of the 4th now, I will let you all know how it goes