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2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#701 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Wed Apr 9, 2025 3:08 am

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I would be happy to get Karaban with the Portland pick. I feel like he will be a steal later in the draft.


Karaban has a lot of issues that make him a likely v. weak nba guy. I'm still rolling w take that Scheierman way better player.
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Not sure I understand. Celtics guy? I was thinking he'd do good especially once the Celtics drafted him. I see Karaban's eFG% is lower than I expected. He reminds me of Big Shot Bob Horry. But maybe that's because I only watched him in the tournament games.


A lot of karaban's success was due to assisted buckets within uconn system. I don't think he scales up well to nba.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#702 » by bballsparkin » Wed Apr 9, 2025 3:13 am

^^that's fair. which makes sense why he stayed longer in the NCAA.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#703 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Wed Apr 9, 2025 3:35 am

bballsparkin wrote:^^that's fair. which makes sense why he stayed longer in the NCAA.


His 2024 scoring sample was one of the most heavily assisted samples of a guy with considerable draft buzz in recent memory and then you factor in Hurley's offense confusing opponents.

This year his assisted bucket rate went down some but so did TS% and I anticipate it will go down further if he somehow gets a hard NBA look.

I would take Sandfort over Karaban despite Sandfort's struggles this season.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#705 » by JShuttlesworth » Wed Apr 9, 2025 11:31 am

Don't know if it has been posted here, but I always enjoy reading through The Ringer draft guide

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/

Carter Bryant at #6 is interesting to me, seems high, but for a team with multiple FRP's he could be a great selection
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#706 » by Tripod » Wed Apr 9, 2025 11:44 am

JShuttlesworth wrote:Don't know if it has been posted here, but I always enjoy reading through The Ringer draft guide

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/

Carter Bryant at #6 is interesting to me, seems high, but for a team with multiple FRP's he could be a great selection

Yet Tankathon has Bryant at #36, which is obviously way too low.

He and Flemming would be nice fits for the Raps,
but gotta go BPA.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#707 » by Indeed » Wed Apr 9, 2025 11:44 am

JShuttlesworth wrote:Don't know if it has been posted here, but I always enjoy reading through The Ringer draft guide

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/

Carter Bryant at #6 is interesting to me, seems high, but for a team with multiple FRP's he could be a great selection


They are off.
Their analysis is good, particularly, in Bryce. However, their ranking has too much focus on NBA rumours, instead of actual talent.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#708 » by PhilBlackson » Wed Apr 9, 2025 11:50 am

Even though we don’t really need another PG, I’d love if Sergio DeLarrea continues to go under the radar and somehow is there with the POR pick. I’m actually surprised he hasn’t gotten more buzz where he’s talked about in the mid 1st or so but maybe that will happen as we get closer to the draft.

It’s really a shame in a way that we have so many solid SGs or I would’ve loved Isaiah Evans as a fall back option. Both guys are prob gonna be some nice steals for teams in the late 1st.

After that I still like Byrd, Pate or Thiero to get some depth at the SF position.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#709 » by Thaddy » Wed Apr 9, 2025 11:58 am

PhilBlackson wrote:Even though we don’t really need another PG, I’d love if Sergio DeLarrea continues to go under the radar and somehow is there with the POR pick. I’m actually surprised he hasn’t gotten more buzz where he’s talked about in the mid 1st or so but maybe that will happen as we get closer to the draft.

It’s really a shame in a way that we have so many solid SGs or I would’ve loved Isaiah Evans as a fall back option. Both guys are prob gonna be some nice steals for teams in the late 1st.

After that I still like Byrd, Pate or Thiero to get some depth at the SF position.

Thiero would be a steal at 39. He is very OG like and I could see us developing him into a good defensive back up.

The problem is that we have a lot of role playing talent but no stand outs. Walter, Mogbo, Shead, etc are nice but they aren't potential all stars.

If we find during the draft process that a mystery box like Hugo, Zikarsy, etc have a stand out skill like size and burst or mobility I would take the risk.

There's no chance we could combine several 7-9th guys into a good consolidation trade. We need high potential that we can prune into looking like a great young asset in a typical Darko offense
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#710 » by Pointgod » Wed Apr 9, 2025 1:10 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:True, at least she has better genes than Juanita Jordan.


who's ur top 10 right now?

Flagg
Harper
Edgecombe
Bailey
Johnson
Knueppel
Queen
CMB
Newell
Fears


No Malauch?
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Post#711 » by HumbleRen » Wed Apr 9, 2025 1:16 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:Even though we don’t really need another PG, I’d love if Sergio DeLarrea continues to go under the radar and somehow is there with the POR pick. I’m actually surprised he hasn’t gotten more buzz where he’s talked about in the mid 1st or so but maybe that will happen as we get closer to the draft.

It’s really a shame in a way that we have so many solid SGs or I would’ve loved Isaiah Evans as a fall back option. Both guys are prob gonna be some nice steals for teams in the late 1st.

After that I still like Byrd, Pate or Thiero to get some depth at the SF position.


Surprised you feel that way. I think we absolutely
need a lead guard. I don’t believe Shead and IQ are our answers for that.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#712 » by PhilBlackson » Wed Apr 9, 2025 1:50 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:Even though we don’t really need another PG, I’d love if Sergio DeLarrea continues to go under the radar and somehow is there with the POR pick. I’m actually surprised he hasn’t gotten more buzz where he’s talked about in the mid 1st or so but maybe that will happen as we get closer to the draft.

It’s really a shame in a way that we have so many solid SGs or I would’ve loved Isaiah Evans as a fall back option. Both guys are prob gonna be some nice steals for teams in the late 1st.

After that I still like Byrd, Pate or Thiero to get some depth at the SF position.


Surprised you feel that way. I think we absolutely
need a lead guard. I don’t believe Shead and IQ are our answers for that.


No you’re definitely right, maybe I phrased it incorrectly. It’s not so much that “we don’t need” a PG but that I think the FO likely feels like they have suitable options already so will likely use the pick to address more obvious “needs” ie/ backup SF (especially given Ingram’s injury history). I’m just doubtful the FO will be looking for a PG given how much they paid IQ and Shead has ascended as an obvious backup.

But I’m saying I’d really love if Sergio was available with the POR pick and that he’d prob be my top choice right now if he happens to “fall” that far. Just to be clear once again, I so don’t think either of IQ or Shead are locks as our starting PG, I’d actually love if the FO said the hell with it and drafted Fears. I think Fears has that type of potential to not only be a lead guard but maybe even one of the more popular players/fun players to watch in the league long term. I’d LOVE to have a player who’s exciting that also kinda help the “brand” but also has potential to be a true star in the league.

If it were my decision, I think I’m leaning with taking Fears BUT that’s not at all what I expect THEM to do. I think they’re gonna take one of Maluach or Queen since it’s just the easier transition. Because there’s obviously plenty of playing time available at back up C and I think both this FO is gonna be gun-shy of risking causing friction in the locker room by basically implying to IQ that despite what they paid him, he’s not the guy and that he’s basically counting the days before he’s traded. Yak on the other hand is a “pro’s pro” that has said openly that he’ll do whatever the FO asks of him so not only do I not think he’ll pout but he’d likely even help teach those guys. And of course this is Masai’s contract year, I think they’ll look to draft with “improving”/winning now a bit in mind no matter what they say about “BPA”…but here’s hoping they stand on it and take Fears or Queen
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#713 » by Mark_83 » Wed Apr 9, 2025 2:17 pm

JShuttlesworth wrote:Don't know if it has been posted here, but I always enjoy reading through The Ringer draft guide

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/

Carter Bryant at #6 is interesting to me, seems high, but for a team with multiple FRP's he could be a great selection

I've been high on him since before the season and he has lottery talent, but I agree, that's too high based on results. I'd trade back for him though. I think he's one of those rare high floor (due to role/fit utility) high ceiling (due to age) prospects. I also think he ends up a better player than either McNeeley or K-nipple. He's already a stocks beast defensively.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#714 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Wed Apr 9, 2025 2:27 pm

Thaddy wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:Even though we don’t really need another PG, I’d love if Sergio DeLarrea continues to go under the radar and somehow is there with the POR pick. I’m actually surprised he hasn’t gotten more buzz where he’s talked about in the mid 1st or so but maybe that will happen as we get closer to the draft.

It’s really a shame in a way that we have so many solid SGs or I would’ve loved Isaiah Evans as a fall back option. Both guys are prob gonna be some nice steals for teams in the late 1st.

After that I still like Byrd, Pate or Thiero to get some depth at the SF position.

Thiero would be a steal at 39. He is very OG like and I could see us developing him into a good defensive back up.

The problem is that we have a lot of role playing talent but no stand outs. Walter, Mogbo, Shead, etc are nice but they aren't potential all stars.

If we find during the draft process that a mystery box like Hugo, Zikarsy, etc have a stand out skill like size and burst or mobility I would take the risk.

There's no chance we could combine several 7-9th guys into a good consolidation trade. We need high potential that we can prune into looking like a great young asset in a typical Darko offense


i'd say thiero is more like jimmy butler than OG, problem is that he's a huge gamble because #1 he only started piecing his game together recently and doesn't have large body of work looking as good as he did this year and #2 his shooting markers are way behind butler at same age (biggest issue)

but in terms of just being a physical monster of a wing getting to hole and to line w/ +event creation yeah he's closest to butler since butler
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#715 » by BoyzNTheHood » Wed Apr 9, 2025 2:41 pm

Pointgod wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
who's ur top 10 right now?

Flagg
Harper
Edgecombe
Bailey
Johnson
Knueppel
Queen
CMB
Newell
Fears


No Malauch?

Top 10? Absolutely not.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#716 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Wed Apr 9, 2025 2:49 pm

Pointgod wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
who's ur top 10 right now?

Flagg
Harper
Edgecombe
Bailey
Johnson
Knueppel
Queen
CMB
Newell
Fears


No Malauch?


here's my t8 for now but my board changes daily based on new data and things i absorb so grain of salt and also not considering a bunch of guys like stirtz who are likely returning

1. Flagg
2. Queen
3. Fears (measurement dependent)
4. Maluach
5. Broome
6. Essengue
7. Harper
8. Edgecombe
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Post#717 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Apr 9, 2025 2:51 pm

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Post#718 » by billy_hoyle » Wed Apr 9, 2025 3:00 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:Flagg
Harper
Edgecombe
Bailey
Johnson
Knueppel
Queen
CMB
Newell
Fears


No Malauch?


here's my t8 for now but my board changes daily based on new data and things i absorb so grain of salt and also not considering a bunch of guys like stirtz who are likely returning

1. Flagg
2. Queen
3. Fears (measurement dependent)
4. Maluach
5. Broome
6. Essengue
7. Harper
8. Edgecombe


Not a single game played, but my board changes daily...

Why even post when your opinion changes with the wind?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#719 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Wed Apr 9, 2025 3:03 pm

billy_hoyle wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
No Malauch?


here's my t8 for now but my board changes daily based on new data and things i absorb so grain of salt and also not considering a bunch of guys like stirtz who are likely returning

1. Flagg
2. Queen
3. Fears (measurement dependent)
4. Maluach
5. Broome
6. Essengue
7. Harper
8. Edgecombe


Not a single game played, but my board changes daily...

Why even post when your opinion changes with the wind?


sorry for not locking in all my opinions and being close minded, seems like a great way to evaluate players

just a sorry passive aggressive post from you yet again, as if nobody is constantly changing their board up until draft day (note: every single person on the planet does)
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