Cooper Flagg

[FrodoBaggins]

Cooper is listed at 6'9" and 225 pounds on Duke's website. It was last updated on 4/2/25 and includes all his 2024-25 achievements.

https://goduke.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/cooper-flagg/20760

Another reference on the website is here: https://goduke.com/news/2025/4/6/mens-basketball-cooper-flagg-wins-naismith-trophy

The 6-9, 225-pound freshman led No. 1 Duke in points (709), rebounds (278), assists (155), steals (52) and blocks per game (1.4), and ranked among the ACC's top-10 in four of the five major statistical categories - scoring (3rd), rebounding (9th), assists (8th) and blocked shots (6th). He garnered both ACC player and rookie of the week honors in the same week five times this season, becoming the first player in ACC history to sweep the conference weekly awards more than twice. His 12 ACC Rookie of the Week citations are a new conference record.

I can buy the 225-pound measurement. He looks way too big for his 205 lb listed weight. I think that was just an old high school listing. What do you guys think?

[LakerLegend]

Crazy stat.

[LakerLegend]

Makes sense. Luka is the only prospect in recent memory whose talent was more precocious. Maybe Wemby, but he was older (19.45 draft age) and I'm not sure what to make of the French league he was playing in.

the french league, like every other top league in europe (italy, spain, germany, turkey, greece), is heads and shoulders above college basketball. even in tier 2 leagues, the level of basketball is higher, which shouldn't come as a surprise, since it's teenager vs. professional men.

Sure, but Wemby was older; Flagg will be an NBA rookie at the same age. We'll have to wait and see how Cooper's debut season goes to make an apt comparison regarding precociousness.

When it comes to Wemby it doesn't matter if he was older, he's a once in a lifetime prospect.

[Handlez]

Cooper is listed at 6'9" and 225 pounds on Duke's website. It was last updated on 4/2/25 and includes all his 2024-25 achievements.

https://goduke.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/cooper-flagg/20760

Another reference on the website is here: https://goduke.com/news/2025/4/6/mens-basketball-cooper-flagg-wins-naismith-trophy

The 6-9, 225-pound freshman led No. 1 Duke in points (709), rebounds (278), assists (155), steals (52) and blocks per game (1.4), and ranked among the ACC's top-10 in four of the five major statistical categories - scoring (3rd), rebounding (9th), assists (8th) and blocked shots (6th). He garnered both ACC player and rookie of the week honors in the same week five times this season, becoming the first player in ACC history to sweep the conference weekly awards more than twice. His 12 ACC Rookie of the Week citations are a new conference record.

I can buy the 225-pound measurement. He looks way too big for his 205 lb listed weight. I think that was just an old high school listing. What do you guys think?

He's obviously not 205.

Old news.

Looks about 230.

[FrodoBaggins]

the french league, like every other top league in europe (italy, spain, germany, turkey, greece), is heads and shoulders above college basketball. even in tier 2 leagues, the level of basketball is higher, which shouldn't come as a surprise, since it's teenager vs. professional men.

Sure, but Wemby was older; Flagg will be an NBA rookie at the same age. We'll have to wait and see how Cooper's debut season goes to make an apt comparison regarding precociousness.

When it comes to Wemby it doesn't matter if he was older, he's a once in a lifetime prospect.

Not salient to what's being discussed. We're talking about performance relative to age. Rookie Cooper will be a year younger than Victor was when coming into the league. At the same age Cooper won NPOY with Duke, Wembanyama was a role player who struggled in Euro League play. He put up 8.1 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 0.6 apg, 0.7 spg, 1.9 bpg, and 1.6 topg on 42.2% FG over 29 games and 522 minutes with ASVEL in Euro League and LNB Pro A.

Victor broke out during the 2022-23 season in the French league (LNB Pro A) at ages 18/19. We'll have to wait to see how Flagg goes as an NBA rookie to get a more apt age-matched comparison.

So it's hard to say who was more precocious if we're solely focused on performance and not talent/upside/theoretical projections. What's more impressive? Being a struggling role player in the Euro League or joining KD, AD, and Zion to become one of four freshmen to win NPOY?

[FrodoBaggins]

Cooper is listed at 6'9" and 225 pounds on Duke's website. It was last updated on 4/2/25 and includes all his 2024-25 achievements.

https://goduke.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/cooper-flagg/20760

Another reference on the website is here: https://goduke.com/news/2025/4/6/mens-basketball-cooper-flagg-wins-naismith-trophy

The 6-9, 225-pound freshman led No. 1 Duke in points (709), rebounds (278), assists (155), steals (52) and blocks per game (1.4), and ranked among the ACC's top-10 in four of the five major statistical categories - scoring (3rd), rebounding (9th), assists (8th) and blocked shots (6th). He garnered both ACC player and rookie of the week honors in the same week five times this season, becoming the first player in ACC history to sweep the conference weekly awards more than twice. His 12 ACC Rookie of the Week citations are a new conference record.

I can buy the 225-pound measurement. He looks way too big for his 205 lb listed weight. I think that was just an old high school listing. What do you guys think?

He's obviously not 205.

Old news.

Looks about 230.

Seems right. That bodes really well for his physical development because he looks like he can comfortably add more without losing function.

[The Master]

Crazy stat.

Yeah, but it is cherry-picking to be honest, Flagg just played 37 games this season, several players had better season averages than Flagg had (Evan Turner, Ben Simmons), but with less games played, that's why they're not here. Penny had 23-9-6-2 stats, but 273 rebounds, and so on.

That being said, if you include shooting touch - that's the reason why modern era Bird is the best comp you can make for Flagg.

[Handlez]

Sure, but Wemby was older; Flagg will be an NBA rookie at the same age. We'll have to wait and see how Cooper's debut season goes to make an apt comparison regarding precociousness.

When it comes to Wemby it doesn't matter if he was older, he's a once in a lifetime prospect.

Not salient to what's being discussed. We're talking about performance relative to age. Rookie Cooper will be a year younger than Victor was when coming into the league. At the same age Cooper won NPOY with Duke, Wembanyama was a role player who struggled in Euro League play. He put up 8.1 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 0.6 apg, 0.7 spg, 1.9 bpg, and 1.6 topg on 42.2% FG over 29 games and 522 minutes with ASVEL in Euro League and LNB Pro A.

Victor broke out during the 2022-23 season in the French league (LNB Pro A) at ages 18/19. We'll have to wait to see how Flagg goes as an NBA rookie to get a more apt age-matched comparison.

So it's hard to say who was more precocious if we're solely focused on performance and not talent/upside/theoretical projections. What's more impressive? Being a struggling role player in the Euro League or joining KD, AD, and Zion to become one of four freshmen to win NPOY?

Cooper is more skilled and has a higher IQ than Wemby. Cooper far better playmaker.

But Wemby's size to go along with his better shooting makes him better.

It's rare a player of Wemby's size can stay healthy, though.

[sikma42]

When it comes to Wemby it doesn't matter if he was older, he's a once in a lifetime prospect.

Not salient to what's being discussed. We're talking about performance relative to age. Rookie Cooper will be a year younger than Victor was when coming into the league. At the same age Cooper won NPOY with Duke, Wembanyama was a role player who struggled in Euro League play. 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So it's hard to say who was more precocious if we're solely focused on performance and not talent/upside/theoretical projections. What's more impressive? Being a struggling role player in the Euro League or joining KD, AD, and Zion to become one of four freshmen to win NPOY?

Cooper is more skilled and has a higher IQ than Wemby. Cooper far better playmaker.

But Wemby's size to go along with his better shooting makes him better.

It's rare a player of Wemby's size can stay healthy, though.

Wemby is a good deal more skilled than Cooper at this point. Even factoring in age difference they don’t project the same.

Wemby was learning his body bc he’s legit 7’5. Also if you put Wemby in college it would be a joke. See when he came over and dominated that Gleague team like they were a bunch of 8th graders.

Imo Cooper is a lot of athleticism and some good instincts. But skill wise, he isn’t anything crazy.


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[Handlez]

Not salient to what's being discussed. We're talking about performance relative to age. Rookie Cooper will be a year younger than Victor was when coming into the league. At the same age Cooper won NPOY with Duke, Wembanyama was a role player who struggled in Euro League play. 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So it's hard to say who was more precocious if we're solely focused on performance and not talent/upside/theoretical projections. What's more impressive? Being a struggling role player in the Euro League or joining KD, AD, and Zion to become one of four freshmen to win NPOY?

Cooper is more skilled and has a higher IQ than Wemby. Cooper far better playmaker.

But Wemby's size to go along with his better shooting makes him better.

It's rare a player of Wemby's size can stay healthy, though.

Wemby is a good deal more skilled than Cooper at this point.

Imo Cooper is a lot of athleticism and some good instincts. But skill wise, he isn’t anything crazy.


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Absolutely disagree.

Cooper is well ahead of Wemby when it comes to playmaking for teammates. Cooper's passing is elite.

Cooper's IQ is off the charts.

Wemby is a better shooter and that's a big deal. Cooper needs to improve his shot; he can get a clean look anytime he wants one.

I think Cooper has better body control and he can play bully ball with his lower half strength. I think Cooper creates his own shot better because he has great handles and knows how to use his lower tough extremities to get defenders off balance.

I think Cooper is better than Wemby overall because of his playmaking.

BUT Wemby's size and great shooting touch makes him currently a better player.

I'd take Cooper over Wemby longterm, though.

[sikma42]

Not going to address the underlying point in the post but just fundamentally disagree with what you’re referring to as skill.

Well maybe just one point. I don’t think Flagg is a better playmaker than Wemby and if so it’s much closer than the gap everywhere else.

The only acceptable reason to take Cooper over Wemby is that you think injuries will derail Wemby’s career. They aren’t on the same planet as prospects. I really like Cooper but I think many are gonna be disappointed if expect him be the type of talent you choose over a healthy Wemby.


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[Handlez]

Not going to address the underlying point in the post but just fundamentally disagree with what you’re referring to as skill.

Well maybe just one point. I don’t think Flagg is a better playmaker than Wemby and if so it’s much closer than the gap everywhere else.


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Ya I may be delusional because I love Coop.

But we'll see.

[FrodoBaggins]

Cooper's natural strength and robust frame are some of the most underappreciated aspects of his talent/package as a prospect. At 18.3 y/o, he's a lean and athletic 225 pounds with plenty of room to grow. I'd compare him to the following forwards:

OG Anunoby (6'6.25" and 232 pounds at 19.92 draft age)
Kawhi Leonard (6'6" and 227.4 pounds at 19.96 draft age)
Aaron Gordon (6'7.5" and 220.1 pounds at 18.75 draft age)
Larry Nance Jr. (6'7.5" and 226.6 pounds at 22.46 draft age)
Ron Artest (6'6" and 235 pounds at 19.6 draft age)

Cooper should be 6'7.5' to 6'8" and somewhere between 220-230 at 18.5 draft age. We'll see how he measures at the NBA combine in a few months. What's clear is that he's a step up from Kirilenko, Tatum, Pippen, and Paul George in natural size and strength. Not quite LeBron, though (who was?). 6'7.25" and 245 pounds at 18.5 draft age.

[BernteB]

Sure, but Wemby was older; Flagg will be an NBA rookie at the same age. We'll have to wait and see how Cooper's debut season goes to make an apt comparison regarding precociousness.

When it comes to Wemby it doesn't matter if he was older, he's a once in a lifetime prospect.

Not salient to what's being discussed. We're talking about performance relative to age. Rookie Cooper will be a year younger than Victor was when coming into the league. At the same age Cooper won NPOY with Duke, Wembanyama was a role player who struggled in Euro League play. He put up 8.1 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 0.6 apg, 0.7 spg, 1.9 bpg, and 1.6 topg on 42.2% FG over 29 games and 522 minutes with ASVEL in Euro League and LNB Pro A.

Victor broke out during the 2022-23 season in the French league (LNB Pro A) at ages 18/19. We'll have to wait to see how Flagg goes as an NBA rookie to get a more apt age-matched comparison.

So it's hard to say who was more precocious if we're solely focused on performance and not talent/upside/theoretical projections. What's more impressive? Being a struggling role player in the Euro League or joining KD, AD, and Zion to become one of four freshmen to win NPOY?

that's hardly "struggling" at his age tbh. it's actually above expectations for a then 17 year old prospect, participating in a world class competition.

[BruttoNostra]

When it comes to Wemby it doesn't matter if he was older, he's a once in a lifetime prospect.

Not salient to what's being discussed. We're talking about performance relative to age. Rookie Cooper will be a year younger than Victor was when coming into the league. At the same age Cooper won NPOY with Duke, Wembanyama was a role player who struggled in Euro League play. He put up 8.1 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 0.6 apg, 0.7 spg, 1.9 bpg, and 1.6 topg on 42.2% FG over 29 games and 522 minutes with ASVEL in Euro League and LNB Pro A.

Victor broke out during the 2022-23 season in the French league (LNB Pro A) at ages 18/19. We'll have to wait to see how Flagg goes as an NBA rookie to get a more apt age-matched comparison.

So it's hard to say who was more precocious if we're solely focused on performance and not talent/upside/theoretical projections. What's more impressive? Being a struggling role player in the Euro League or joining KD, AD, and Zion to become one of four freshmen to win NPOY?

that's hardly "struggling" at his age tbh. it's actually above expectations for a then 17 year old prospect, participating in a world class competition.

Agree.
Not to take anyway from Cooper who is awesome and is generational talent, but you can't compare stats of a 17yo playing vs older pros to another 17yo who plays against players 2-3 years older, and most of them will not play pro ball in the adulthood.

[LakerLegend]

Besides the Wemby draft, what’s the last draft Flagg wouldn’t go #1 in?

[Ice Man]

Besides the Wemby draft, what’s the last draft Flagg wouldn’t go #1 in?

Zion.

[LakerLegend]

Besides the Wemby draft, what’s the last draft Flagg wouldn’t go #1 in?

Zion.

Hm debatable I think considering Flaggs age.

[The Master]

Hm debatable I think considering Flaggs age.

Regardless of how unprofessional Zion has turned out to be - there was always a legit concern about his health long-term with NBA pace, scheduling and number of injuries in the NBA nowadays, that's the biggest argument for Flagg here. Obviously, it may be a bit revisionist once we know how Zion's career has gone so far, but I do believe that with similar prospect level-wise, many teams would be conservative here. 285 lbs wing in ~100 pace NBA was a red flag you could ignore only because there was no one even remotely close as a prospect.

Besides LeBron and Wemby, I think Flagg has arguments over every prospect in one and done era, so him going 1st would be very dependable on narrative and needs of team drafting 1st. Probably even with Wemby people would question his potential fragility in the NBA much more, but I guess no one would like to miss on him anyways.

[JRoy]

Not salient to what's being discussed. We're talking about performance relative to age. Rookie Cooper will be a year younger than Victor was when coming into the league. At the same age Cooper won NPOY with Duke, Wembanyama was a role player who struggled in Euro League play. 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So it's hard to say who was more precocious if we're solely focused on performance and not talent/upside/theoretical projections. What's more impressive? Being a struggling role player in the Euro League or joining KD, AD, and Zion to become one of four freshmen to win NPOY?

Cooper is more skilled and has a higher IQ than Wemby. Cooper far better playmaker.

But Wemby's size to go along with his better shooting makes him better.

It's rare a player of Wemby's size can stay healthy, though.

Wemby is a good deal more skilled than Cooper at this point. Even factoring in age difference they don’t project the same.

Wemby was learning his body bc he’s legit 7’5. Also if you put Wemby in college it would be a joke. See when he came over and dominated that Gleague team like they were a bunch of 8th graders.

Imo Cooper is a lot of athleticism and some good instincts. But skill wise, he isn’t anything crazy.


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He’s easily the top pick in this draft.

VW probably ends up with a higher peak but I will bet Flagg plays a lot more games than VW over his career.