2025 Fantasy Trade Thread

[Iverson Armband]

Embiid and Gordon for Vanderbilt, Hachimura, Kleber, and Vincent.

Damn, can’t even get DK back in the deal?

[ProcessDoctor]

If the pick lands between #3-6 and Giannis requests a trade...

George/McCain/2025 1st/2028 LAC 1st (unp)/2029 1st (unp)/2031 1st (unp) for Giannis


Maxey/Butler/Gordon
Grimes/Edwards/Walker
Prince/Oubre/Council
Giannis/Yabusele/(2nd)
Embiid/Bona/Drummond

Edit: Sign Taurean Prince for the min.

[Eyeamok]

If the pick lands between #3-6 and Giannis requests a trade...

George/McCain/2025 1st/2028 LAC 1st (unp)/2029 1st(unp)/2031 1st (unp) for Giannis


Maxey/Gordon/Butler
Grimes/Edwards/Walker
(MLE)/Oubre/Council
Giannis/Yabusele/(2nd)
Embiid/Bona/Drummond

That's not a bad haul for a team that is rebuilding. But unlike Dallas I am sure the Bucks will listen to anything OKC has to say. And OKC has a lot to say.

[Iverson Armband]

If the pick lands between #3-6 and Giannis requests a trade...

George/McCain/2025 1st/2028 LAC 1st (unp)/2029 1st(unp)/2031 1st (unp) for Giannis


Maxey/Gordon/Butler
Grimes/Edwards/Walker
(MLE)/Oubre/Council
Giannis/Yabusele/(2nd)
Embiid/Bona/Drummond

This is about one pick rich of what I’d really want to pay but I probably do it.

[ProcessDoctor]

If the pick lands between #3-6 and Giannis requests a trade...

George/McCain/2025 1st/2028 LAC 1st (unp)/2029 1st(unp)/2031 1st (unp) for Giannis


Maxey/Gordon/Butler
Grimes/Edwards/Walker
(MLE)/Oubre/Council
Giannis/Yabusele/(2nd)
Embiid/Bona/Drummond

That's not a bad haul for a team that is rebuilding. But unlike Dallas I am sure the Bucks will listen to anything OKC has to say. And OKC has a lot to say.

OKC has a lot of picks to offer, but none are definitively top-6. Will they offer Chet or Williams? Houston will make a run too.

All this to say, I won't be shocked if Morey gets involved if we don't win the lottery but keep the pick. Giannis will certainly have his list of preferred destinations as well.

[ProcessDoctor]

If the pick lands between #3-6 and Giannis requests a trade...

George/McCain/2025 1st/2028 LAC 1st (unp)/2029 1st(unp)/2031 1st (unp) for Giannis


Maxey/Gordon/Butler
Grimes/Edwards/Walker
(MLE)/Oubre/Council
Giannis/Yabusele/(2nd)
Embiid/Bona/Drummond

This is about one pick rich of what I’d really want to pay but I probably do it.

I debated throwing in the 2031 1st. I would throw it in if we knew Giannis would sign an extension with us.

Edit: I'd also want to know with some certainty that Embiid can still play NBA basketball...

[the_process]

If the pick falls 3-6, lots of potential trades out there to post about.

If it falls 7-8, lots of cursing to do.

1 or 2 would be very exciting for the team but boring as it regards trades.

Monday, May 12th.

[76ciology]

What would it take to make an Embiid for Jokic trade work?

[Iverson Armband]

What would it take to make an Embiid for Jokic trade work?

Nico Harrison hired as Nuggets GM

[76ciology]

What would it take to make an Embiid for Jokic trade work?

Nico Harrison hired as Nuggets GM

Good and valid answer, but I need something I can actually try in NBA2K.

[mjkvol]

What would it take to make an Embiid for Jokic trade work?

Nico Harrison hired as Nuggets GM

Nico is cursed to be a punching bag for the rest of eternity. That trade was staggering in so many ways, there is just no rationalization that can't be easily picked apart.

[the_process]

What would it take to make an Embiid for Jokic trade work?

Nico Harrison hired as Nuggets GM

Good and valid answer, but I need something I can actually try in NBA2K.

For 2K purposes only... Cooper Flagg. Embiid and 1 for Jokic.

[mjkvol]

Nico Harrison hired as Nuggets GM

Good and valid answer, but I need something I can actually try in NBA2K.

For 2K purposes only... Cooper Flagg. Embiid and 1 for Jokic.

Would you do it?

76ciology , would you?

I wouldn't. If we got Flagg, the first priority would be to move off of George ASAP, and then move off Embiid unless he was healthy enough to contribute and accept a complimentary role ala David Robinson.

[the_process]

Good and valid answer, but I need something I can actually try in NBA2K.

For 2K purposes only... Cooper Flagg. Embiid and 1 for Jokic.

Would you do it?

76ciology, would you?

I wouldn't. If we got Flagg, the first priority would be to move off of George ASAP, and then move off Embiid unless he was healthy enough to contribute and accept a complimentary role ala David Robinson.

Agreed. If they get Flagg, flip Embiid and George for whatever dreck you have to take.

Then hopefully in 26-27, most of the dreck expires and you have flexibility again to go out and start building.

[76ciology]

Good and valid answer, but I need something I can actually try in NBA2K.

For 2K purposes only... Cooper Flagg. Embiid and 1 for Jokic.

Would you do it?

76ciology , would you?

I wouldn't. If we got Flagg, the first priority would be to move off of George ASAP, and then move off Embiid unless he was healthy enough to contribute and accept a complimentary role ala David Robinson.

I would. Ring counting aside, I think Jokic belongs in the GOAT conversation, and he should be able to play at this level for at least three more years.

Given how our team is built, it’s better for us to stay competitive rather than pivot to a Flagg-led rebuild, especially with our draft pick situation. If we end up with Flagg, there’s a good chance we’ll be handing OKC our pick next year.

I also think AJ Dybantsa and Daryn Peterson have a real shot at being as good as Flagg next season. And while it’s rare to find anyone like Jokic in the draft, who I believe is firmly in the GOAT conversation, he also barely misses games, which only adds to his value.

Maxey (plays Murray role)
Grimes (plays KCP role)
George (plays MPJ role)
Oubre (plays Gordon role)
Jokic

That’s a very Nuggetsy-type team, and that’s exactly why I asked the question in my original post. I really think we’ve got the right pieces to build around Jokic.

[the_process]

For 2K purposes only... Cooper Flagg. Embiid and 1 for Jokic.

Would you do it?

76ciology , would you?

I wouldn't. If we got Flagg, the first priority would be to move off of George ASAP, and then move off Embiid unless he was healthy enough to contribute and accept a complimentary role ala David Robinson.

I would. Ring counting aside, I think Jokic belongs in the GOAT conversation, and he should be able to play at this level for at least three more years.

Given how our team is built, it’s better for us to stay competitive rather than pivot to a Flagg-led rebuild, especially with our draft pick situation. If we end up with Flagg, there’s a good chance we’ll be handing OKC our pick next year.

I also think AJ Dybantsa and Daryn Peterson have a real shot at being as good as Flagg next season. And while it’s rare to find anyone like Jokic in the draft, who I believe is firmly in the GOAT conversation, he also barely misses games, which only adds to his value.

Maxey (plays Murray role)
Grimes (plays KCP role)
George (plays MPJ role)
Oubre (plays Gordon role)
Jokic

That’s a very Nuggetsy-type team, and that’s exactly why I asked the question in my original post. I really think we’ve got the right pieces to build around Jokic.

I do not see Oubre and Gordon playing the same role at all.

The other, bigger, thing is... you get essentially nine cost controlled years of Flagg. He should be improving for most, if not all, of that time.

Jokic you get a top 3 offensive player for at most four more peak years. You have to construct a defense factoring in he is not a rim protector and does not defend in space.

I'm not sure Jokic/Maxey/George gets you a ring before Jokic and George age out.

I would take the more chances at it and pivot hard to a longer timeline if they get lucky enough to win the lottery.

[mjkvol]

Would you do it?

76ciology , would you?

I wouldn't. If we got Flagg, the first priority would be to move off of George ASAP, and then move off Embiid unless he was healthy enough to contribute and accept a complimentary role ala David Robinson.

I would. Ring counting aside, I think Jokic belongs in the GOAT conversation, and he should be able to play at this level for at least three more years.

Given how our team is built, it’s better for us to stay competitive rather than pivot to a Flagg-led rebuild, especially with our draft pick situation. If we end up with Flagg, there’s a good chance we’ll be handing OKC our pick next year.

I also think AJ Dybantsa and Daryn Peterson have a real shot at being as good as Flagg next season. . it’s rare to find anyone like Jokic in the draft, who I believe is firmly in the GOAT conversation, he also barely misses games, which only adds to his value.

Maxey (plays Murray role)
Grimes (plays KCP role)
George (plays MPJ role)
Oubre (plays Gordon role)
Jokic

That’s a very Nuggetsy-type team, and that’s exactly why I asked the question in my original post. I really think we’ve got the right pieces to build around Jokic.

I do not see Oubre and Gordon playing the same role at all.

The other, bigger, thing is... you get essentially nine cost controlled years of Flagg. He should be improving for most, if not all, of that time.

Jokic you get a top 3 offensive player for at most four more peak years. You have to construct a defense factoring in he is not a rim protector and does not defend in space.

I'm not sure Jokic/Maxey/George gets you a ring before Jokic and George age out.

I would take the more chances at it and pivot hard to a longer timeline if they get lucky enough to win the lottery.

Totally agree with this. The days of trying to win now with aging "stars" has to end, and as great as he is, Jokic will be 34. I have zero faith in George, and this roster as it stands isn't competing for a championship.

Grab the kid, clean house, and build around Flagg and Maxey for the next 10 years.

[ProcessDoctor]

For 2K purposes only... Cooper Flagg. Embiid and 1 for Jokic.

Would you do it?

76ciology , would you?

I wouldn't. If we got Flagg, the first priority would be to move off of George ASAP, and then move off Embiid unless he was healthy enough to contribute and accept a complimentary role ala David Robinson.

I would. Ring counting aside, I think Jokic belongs in the GOAT conversation, and he should be able to play at this level for at least three more years.

Given how our team is built, it’s better for us to stay competitive rather than pivot to a Flagg-led rebuild, especially with our draft pick situation. If we end up with Flagg, there’s a good chance we’ll be handing OKC our pick next year.

I also think AJ Dybantsa and Daryn Peterson have a real shot at being as good as Flagg next season. And while it’s rare to find anyone like Jokic in the draft, who I believe is firmly in the GOAT conversation, he also barely misses games, which only adds to his value.

Maxey (plays Murray role)
Grimes (plays KCP role)
George (plays MPJ role)
Oubre (plays Gordon role)
Jokic

That’s a very Nuggetsy-type team, and that’s exactly why I asked the question in my original post. I really think we’ve got the right pieces to build around Jokic.

I can get behind 1-3, but Oubre's role should actually be 8th/9th man in rotation. He's not a starter, especially at PF. I'd keep him around for some energy off the bench though.

As for Flagg vs. Jokic, you could have a cost-controlled Flagg for 8 years...that is too hard for me to pass up. Unlike Joker, he's a two-way player and will be a perennial all-defensive team candidate and potential DPOY. I'll take Flagg over Joker, especially if you include the upside of a healthy Embiid at some point.

[stormi]

For 2K purposes only... Cooper Flagg. Embiid and 1 for Jokic.

Would you do it?

76ciology , would you?

I wouldn't. If we got Flagg, the first priority would be to move off of George ASAP, and then move off Embiid unless he was healthy enough to contribute and accept a complimentary role ala David Robinson.

I would. Ring counting aside, I think Jokic belongs in the GOAT conversation, and he should be able to play at this level for at least three more years.

Yea, he's officially the most overrated basketball player the sport has ever seen.

Can we get ONE historic playoff run or all time carry job before we crown him? The greats have all given us multiple. A ring against the odds.

His crowning achievement, besides attempting to create an 'aura moment' by standing for the entirety of the 4Q in G6 against the Wolves as his team lost by 40 and then blowing the largest G7 home-court lead in NBA history...

((And blowing a 3-2 series lead in the process)), is being 0-5 against 50 win teams in the postseason, oh but this is forgotten because of a ring against a 44 win Heat team.

Humiliated against PHX in '21 and GS in '22 specifically due to defensive bleeding every second he's on the court.

but this works in his favor because these games with 3000 possessions are naturally going to have PRA hyperinflation which is what ultimately catches peoples eyes.

He's a fantastic player and a generational talent but goat conversation because he swallows rebounds and farms handoff assists in the least statistically ethical era of basketball is asinine.

He isn't even sitting near Tim Duncan at the moment who's tiered down from the actual goat conversation.

[ProcessDoctor]

Would you do it?

76ciology , would you?

I wouldn't. If we got Flagg, the first priority would be to move off of George ASAP, and then move off Embiid unless he was healthy enough to contribute and accept a complimentary role ala David Robinson.

I would. Ring counting aside, I think Jokic belongs in the GOAT conversation, and he should be able to play at this level for at least three more years.

Yea, he's officially the most overrated basketball player the sport has ever seen.

Can we get ONE historic playoff run or all time carry job before we crown him? The greats have all given us multiple. A ring against the odds.

His crowning achievement, besides attempting to create an 'aura moment' by standing for the entirety of the 4Q in G6 against the Wolves as his team lost by 40 and then blowing the greatest G7 home-court lead in NBA history...

((And blowing a 3-2 series lead in the process)), is being 0-5 against 50 win teams in the playoffs, oh but this is forgotten because of a ring against a 44 win Heat team.

Humiliated against PHX in '21 and GS in '22 specifically due to defensive bleeding every second he's on the court.

but this works in his favor because these games with 3000 possessions are naturally going to have PRA hyperinflation which is what ultimately catches peoples eyes.

He's a fantastic player and a generational talent but goat conversation because he swallows rebounds and farms handoff assists in the least statistically ethical era of basketball is asinine.

He isn't even sitting near Tim Duncan at the moment who's tiered down from the actual goat conversation.

Agreed. As things stand now, active players I have ranked higher than Joker: LeBron, Durant, Giannis, and Curry. I won't even get into the 15-20 retired players who've accomplished more than him (as of today).