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2025 Draft prospects - thread 2

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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#241 » by Donkedave » Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:47 pm

Muzbar wrote:Wanted to see what all the fuss about Joan Beringer was, so I watched the highlight video posted in the thread, and I must say, I was thoroughly disappointed.

He looks like a less athletic Jaxson Hayes, if he shoots anything other than a dunk it's looks really awkward and clunky, there's no way I'd take him in the 12-16 range. Late 1st or second round, no problems.


Reminds me of Tyler Smith from last year’s draft. Tall athletic type that was just on dunking highlight's. No mid range shots etc.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#242 » by RastaBull » Sat Apr 12, 2025 1:50 am

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drosestruts wrote:Any Euro Hoops fans able to fill me in about Joan Beringer?

Dosn't play much which isn't abnormal for young players in the Euroleague. Stats aren't really eye popping.

When watching his highlights though - I really like just how fluid and athletic he looks. A lot of big men often look awkward with their movements, he seems very fluid, looks to have good bounce and good hand eye coordination.

He'll sprint up the court, grab a pass on the move, and gets up quick for his finishes.

Sticks with guards on switches, looks to have great shot blocking instincts.

Again it's more how he looks than anything showing up in the stat sheet. Curious if any Eruoleague watchers have any additional insights on him?




I love the kid,said it couple of times.. he actually played some games a lot, not just European Cup but also ABA league. Those leagues are pretty solid and he just turned 18 few months ago and had to play vs grown man, some hard nosed centers. He was bought by Olimpija to play for junior team, but coach needed only 3 training sessions and he was included to senior team.

He is very mobile, solid skills, very good instincts, high BB IQ, good defender already for his age.. I think he started playing basketball pretty late, few years ago.


Yep. All true.

He’s my guy at 15.

He’s a more explosive Jarret Allen with less offense right now. Kid has a crazy motor, fast jump, and flies up and down the court.

He is the lob threat Giddey needs and the rim protector our defense needs. He has great instincts on D.


Wow, he looks exciting. I love his defense. You can tell he'll come in and pick up tons and tons of fouls as a young guy. He has terrific athleticism and moves so well on defense ... but you can see he's so excited by his athleticism that he will probably be too overreactive on d at the NBA level. That's something you can coach though. I like that he already likes to play the pivot/playmaker too.

And I agree, he seems like he could grow into a great tool for Giddey. I really love potential of Giddey and White being the stars, and putting athletic, up and down the court guys ... you'd have an athletic F in Matas that can play above rim and hit catch and shoot threes ... then another F/G that can cut and move but largely 3P guy [ala Huerter right now] ... then a rim running big that will play above the rim. That's a sweet offense right there.

What a world it would be to bring him in, and convince Noah to come in as a specialist coach haha.

Why isn't he appearing in any mocks? Has he not declared? Is he likely to go into draft, or just some hoping he does?
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#243 » by 2weekswithpay » Sat Apr 12, 2025 2:16 am

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Post#244 » by Dan Z » Sat Apr 12, 2025 3:38 am

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I wonder if he'll continue to grow...? He's shorter than his two brothers.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#245 » by Rose2Boozer » Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:00 am

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Its strange because you watch those highlights and you can't help but be excited but we all know what happened with PWill. Is that what we want?


He has solid tools, but he's very raw. The hustle man role was the perfect role for him. To be honest, they could've played him more. It's not like Arizona was this talent filled juggernaut.

Carter Bryant will test well, and he will absolutely shine during the interview process. I wouldn't be surprised if some GM in the lottery falls in love with who he could be in a couple years. AK could be one of those guys. It wouldn't be a PWill type situation, because we're not going to have the fourth pick. Drafting Carter Bryant anywhere from 10-20 wouldn't be that much of a stretch.


Fully agree. He has a big personality and flashes some game and athleticism.

He is what PW should be but isn’t. Way better IQ and instincts and motor from Bryant. I still don’t see some great ceiling though.

I’d take Noa and Riley over him.


I can only imagine how good Carter Bryant would look if he was getting setup by Ben Saraf. Personally, I think Essengue and Bryant are too similar to Phillips. Why draft another athletic fetcher when we already have one who doesn't get consistent minutes. This team actually could use a playmaker to run with the second team, and be Lonzo Ball insurance.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#246 » by WesPeace » Sat Apr 12, 2025 7:41 am

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I love the kid,said it couple of times.. he actually played some games a lot, not just European Cup but also ABA league. Those leagues are pretty solid and he just turned 18 few months ago and had to play vs grown man, some hard nosed centers. He was bought by Olimpija to play for junior team, but coach needed only 3 training sessions and he was included to senior team.

He is very mobile, solid skills, very good instincts, high BB IQ, good defender already for his age.. I think he started playing basketball pretty late, few years ago.


Yep. All true.

He’s my guy at 15.

He’s a more explosive Jarret Allen with less offense right now. Kid has a crazy motor, fast jump, and flies up and down the court.

He is the lob threat Giddey needs and the rim protector our defense needs. He has great instincts on D.


Wow, he looks exciting. I love his defense. You can tell he'll come in and pick up tons and tons of fouls as a young guy. He has terrific athleticism and moves so well on defense ... but you can see he's so excited by his athleticism that he will probably be too overreactive on d at the NBA level. That's something you can coach though. I like that he already likes to play the pivot/playmaker too.

And I agree, he seems like he could grow into a great tool for Giddey. I really love potential of Giddey and White being the stars, and putting athletic, up and down the court guys ... you'd have an athletic F in Matas that can play above rim and hit catch and shoot threes ... then another F/G that can cut and move but largely 3P guy [ala Huerter right now] ... then a rim running big that will play above the rim. That's a sweet offense right there.

What a world it would be to bring him in, and convince Noah to come in as a specialist coach haha.

Why isn't he appearing in any mocks? Has he not declared? Is he likely to go into draft, or just some hoping he does?


He is in every mock I checked (3-4) ranging from early or mid 20s to early second rounder..
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#247 » by 2weekswithpay » Sat Apr 12, 2025 10:40 am

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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#248 » by wolffy » Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:46 am

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CROBulls wrote:Finally getting more time watching this prospects specially this lower tier bracket. That kid Carter Bryant if he declares, when he declares he has decent chance to be stud in NBA.


I don't get taking a player his size tbh. He's right in that Matas, Giddey size, where we could use some depth but I'm looking for a potential starter. PG or C. Secondary choice would be a defensive big


Our starting point guard is Josh Giddey.


Then what was Tre Jones when he was starting?

They will never use Giddey to defend a pg so there's always a spot there, Ayo, Ball, Jones. But you can see when Giddeys sitting they lack a really good shot creator. Whites better off ball so there's room for someone to fill a "pg" spot in the starting 5. PG, White, Josh, Matas, C.

With that said if there's someone they think is a potential superstar, they need to take him and figure it out later.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#249 » by 2weekswithpay » Sat Apr 12, 2025 12:36 pm

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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#250 » by Chi town » Sat Apr 12, 2025 2:15 pm

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He has Penda at 18 and Riley at 21.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#251 » by Chi town » Sat Apr 12, 2025 3:00 pm

Updated… https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

Noa at 17
Beringer at 19
Riley at 21
Penda at 24
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#252 » by DuckIII » Sat Apr 12, 2025 3:19 pm

I have resigned myself to looking at the 15th pick. If we are healthy, with the way Matas is now playing night in and night out and Suggs being injured, we are probably the best play in team.

That tankathon mock is funny because, of course, I like almost everyone in the top 14 and like 2 guys after that. :D

It’s fine. Giddey has calmed my nerves somewhat and high quality role players will be important to have, and there will be guys like that available.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#253 » by NecessaryEvil » Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:41 pm

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I’d be fine with any of those guys in our range. Anxious to see how it all plays out.
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Post#254 » by CROBulls » Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:00 pm

Another day passed by watching this year prospects. I dont see it with Joan Beringer. I can see why you want that kind of prospect on a team just due fit reasons, but I still think he wouldnt play single minute under Donovan. Guy is not basketball player, he is just tall person trying play basketball.

His "highlights" dont even look good. And his tools are not even that elite to adjust for lack of overall skill. He is perfect very lae 1st, early 2nd round prospect. Basically place where Gobert was taken.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#255 » by Chi town » Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:12 pm

CROBulls wrote:Another day passed by watching this year prospects. I dont see it with Joan Beringer. I can see why you want that kind of prospect on a team just due fit reasons, but I still think he wouldnt play single minute under Donovan. Guy is not basketball player, he is just tall person trying play basketball.

His "highlights" dont even look good. And his tools are not even that elite to adjust for lack of overall skill. He is perfect very lae 1st, early 2nd round prospect. Basically place where Gobert was taken.


That’s exactly the point. In a redraft Gobert goes top 5.

Beringer has very few skills but is a freak of nature in terms of athleticism, length, speed, jumping, and motor.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#256 » by CROBulls » Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:19 pm

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CROBulls wrote:Another day passed by watching this year prospects. I dont see it with Joan Beringer. I can see why you want that kind of prospect on a team just due fit reasons, but I still think he wouldnt play single minute under Donovan. Guy is not basketball player, he is just tall person trying play basketball.

His "highlights" dont even look good. And his tools are not even that elite to adjust for lack of overall skill. He is perfect very lae 1st, early 2nd round prospect. Basically place where Gobert was taken.


That’s exactly the point. In a redraft Gobert goes top 5.

Beringer has very few skills but is a freak of nature in terms of athleticism, length, speed, jumping, and motor.

Yes and no. Gobert was still bigger freak. But after Gobert there was not single player who developed similary. Player development in NBA is more suited for NBA wings than NBA centers. So taking chance on him to becoming something similar is 1 out 100. In reality Gobert was likely guy who was little bit more skilled, but who was still drafted low and skipped.

I would still not take him at 10th or 12th because I think at that point you can find guy who has better chance like 1:10 reaching his ceiling instead 1:100. There is no center in NBA who came in raw and developed legit NBA skillset except Gobert.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#257 » by 2weekswithpay » Sat Apr 12, 2025 7:01 pm

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Post#258 » by sco » Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:01 pm

Chi town wrote:Updated… https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

Noa at 17
Beringer at 19
Riley at 21
Penda at 24

I would be happy if their guys go before our pick...the guys left at 12-15 are the guys I'd want at 10 over others.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#259 » by boozapalooza » Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:36 pm

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The latest CBS mock has us taking Walter Clayton at 12

Would not at all be upset with Clayton in the 12/15 range….news to no one but the shot making ability is pretty special.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#260 » by jump » Sat Apr 12, 2025 10:14 pm

I’ve jumped on the Carter Bryant train. Looks like an excellent 3 and D wing with star potential. If we don’t land a promising big, he seems a great choice.

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