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Sweater Vest Thread #41: Magic 129 - Pacers 115

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Sweater Vest No. 41

Poll ended at Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:47 am

Tristan da Silva: 14 PTS, 3 REB, 2 AST, 3 STL, 2 BLK, 6-13 FG in 34 minutes
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Goga Bitadze: 11 PTS, 7 REB, 3 AST, 1 STL, 2 BLK, 3-5 FG, 5-6 FT, +37 (team best) in 23 minutes
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Caleb Houstan: 10 PTS, 5 REB, 2 AST, 3 STL, 4-6 FG, 2-4 3PT, +21 in 30 minutes
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Jonathan Isaac: 12 PTS, 4 REB, 4 AST, 1 STL, 3 BLK, 3-7 FG, 5-5 FT in 19 minutes
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Trevelin Queen: 25 PTS (career high), 5 REB, 4 AST, 3 STL, 9-11 FG, 5-6 3PT, 2-2 FT, +13 in 30 minutes
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Anthony Black: 21 PTS, 6 REB, 7 AST, 2 STL, 9-16 FG, 3-3 FT, +22 in 31 minutes
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Jett Howard: 17 PTS, 1 AST, 1 BLK, 7-12 FG, 2-7 3PT, +10 in 30 minutes
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Total votes: 31

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Sweater Vest Thread #41: Magic 129 - Pacers 115 

Post#1 » by Knightro » Sat Apr 12, 2025 1:47 am



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2024-2025 Season Standings (3-2-1 scale)
Franz Wagner - 62
Paolo Banchero - 37
Anthony Black - 22
Cole Anthony - 20
Goga Bitadze - 16
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 14
Jonathan Isaac - 13
Wendell Carter Jr. - 11
Jalen Suggs - 11
Tristan da Silva - 8
Moritz Wagner - 7
Caleb Houstan - 4
Trevelin Queen - 4
Gary Harris - 3
Cory Joseph - 2

Vests
Franz Wagner - 17 (v. BKN, v. NOP, v. WAS, v. CHA, v. IND, v. PHL, at PHX, at LAL, v. DET, at CHA, at BKN, at PHL, v. DET, at SAC, v. SAS, v. WAS, v. LAL)
Paolo Banchero - 7 (at MIA, v. IND, at ATL, at NOP, at WAS, at CHA, at WAS)
Cole Anthony - 4 (v. MIA, at NYK, at MIL, v. BOS)
Tristan da Silva - 2 (v. BKN, at TOR)
Anthony Black - 2 (v. CHA, at CLE)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 2 (at BKN, at SAS)
Jalen Suggs - 1 (v. CHI)
Goga Bitadze - 1 (v. PHX)
Trevelin Queen - 1 (v. BOS)
Jonathan Isaac - 1 (v. PHL)
Caleb Houstan - 1 (v. SAC)
Wendell Carter Jr. - (v. ATL)

Cummerbunds
Paolo Banchero - 7 (v. PHL, v. DET, at SAC, v. CHA, at MIL, v. LAL, v. ATL)
Franz Wagner - 5 (at ATL, at NOP, at SAS, at WAS)
Anthony Black - 5 (v. NOP, at PHX, v. SAS, v. WAS, at CHA)
Jalen Suggs - 4 (v. IND, v. CHA, at LAL, v. PHX)
Goga Bitadze - 4 (v. WAS, at BKN, v. BKN, v. SAC)
Jonathan Isaac - 3 (v. IND, v. PHL, at PHL)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 3 (v. CHI, at BKN, v. MIA)
Wendell Carter Jr. - 3 (at NYK, at CLE, at WAS)
Moritz Wagner - 2 (v. BKN, v. DET)
Cole Anthony - 2 (at CHA, at TOR)
Gary Harris - 1 (at MIA)
Tristan da Silva - 1 (v. BOS)

Mittens
Anthony Black - 6 (v. BKN, v. IND, v. WAS, v. IND, at SAC, v. LAL)
Jonathan Isaac - 6 (v. DET, at CHA, at NYK, v. DET, v. SAS, at WAS)
Goga Bitadze - 5 (v. NOP, at PHX, v. CHI, at BKN, v. WAS)
Cole Anthony - 4 (v. PHX, v. BKN, v. PHL, at ATL)
Franz Wagner - 4 (at MIA, at BKN, at MIL, at CHA)
Moritz Wagner - 3 (v. CHA, v. PHL, at LAL)
Wendell Carter Jr. - 2 (v. BOS, v. CHA)
Cory Joseph - 2 (at NOP, at WAS)
Paolo Banchero - 2 (at CLE, at SAC)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 2 (at TOR, v. ATL)
Jalen Suggs - 1 (at PHL)
Trevelin Queen - 1 (v. MIA)
Caleb Houstan - 1 (at SAS)
Gary Harris - 1 (v. BOS)



2023-2024 Season Standings (3-2-1 Scale)
Paolo Banchero - 84
Franz Wagner - 62
Jalen Suggs - 45
Cole Anthony - 20
Jonathan Isaac - 19
Moritz Wagner - 16
Wendell Carter - 12
Goga Bitadze - 8
Anthony Black - 6
Joe Ingles - 3
Gary Harris - 2
Caleb Houstan - 2
Markelle Fultz - 2
Chuma Okeke - 1

2023-2024 Vests
Paolo Banchero - 19 (at UTA, v. LAL, v. MIL, at CHI, v. WAS, v. DET, at IND, at DEN, v. ATL, v. MIA, at SAS, v. NYK, v. UTA, v. DET, v. BKN, v. TOR, v. NOP, at NOP, v. MIL)
Franz Wagner - 9 (v. DEN, v. WAS, at WAS, v. NYK, at DET, v. SAS, v. CHI, v. BKN, at WAS)
Jalen Suggs - 7 (at IND, v. TOR, v. CLE, at DET, at TOR, v. CHA, v. CHI)
Cole Anthony - 4 (v. HOU, v. CHA, at NYK, at CHA)
Jonathan Isaac - 3 (at CHI, v. PHX, at MIN)
Moritz Wagner - 3 (at POR, v. BOS, at CLE)
Wendell Carter Jr - 2 (v. MEM, v. POR)

2023-2024 Cummerbunds
Franz Wagner - 15 (at POR, at UTA, at CHI, v. CHA, v. WAS, v. DET, at IND, v. MIA, at SAS, at MIN, v. NYK, at TOR, v. TOR, at NOP, v. MIL)
Paolo Banchero - 11 (at IND, v. TOR, v. DEN, v. BOS, at NYK, at DET, v. SAS, at DET, at WAS, v. MEM, v. CHI)
Jalen Suggs - 8 (v. MIL, v. WAS, v. NYK, at DEN, at UTA, v. BKN, v. NOP, v. POR)
Anthony Black - 3 (v. LAL, at WAS, at CHA)
Goga Bitadze - 2 (at CHI, v. CLE)
Jonathan Isaac - 2 (v. HOU, v. CHI)
Moritz Wagner - 2 (v. PHX, v. BKN)
Cole Anthony - 2 (at CLE, v. CHA)
Caleb Houstan - 1 (v. ATL)
Wendell Carter Jr. - 1 (v. DET)

2023-2024 Mittens
Jalen Suggs - 8 (at POR, v. WAS, v. ATL, at DET, v. SAS, at WAS, v. TOR, v. MEM)
Jonathan Isaac - 6 (at CHI, at SAS, v. NYK, v. BKN, at TOR, v. MIL)
Paolo Banchero - 5 (v. CHA, at WAS, v. PHX, at CHA, v. CHA)
Franz Wagner - 5 (v. HOU, v. MIL, v. BOS, v. NOP, v. POR)
Goga Bitadze - 4 (v. LAL, at IND, v. DET, v. NYK)
Cole Anthony - 4 (v. TOR, v. WAS, at DEN, v. CHI)
Wendell Carter Jr - 4 (at UTH, v. MIA, at MIN, v. BKN)
Joe Ingles - 3 (v. DEN, v. CLE, at CLE)
Mortiz Wagner - 3 (at DET, v. UTA, at NOP)
Gary Harris - 2 (at CHI, at IND)
Markelle Fultz - 2 (v. DET, v. CHI)
Chuma Okeke - 1 (at NYK)
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #41: Magic 129 - Pacers 115 

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Post#5 » by ogmagicfan » Sat Apr 12, 2025 2:47 am

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Post#7 » by basketballRob » Sat Apr 12, 2025 2:59 am

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Post#10 » by BadMofoPimp » Sat Apr 12, 2025 9:07 am

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Post#11 » by drsd » Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:18 am

Just finished the game—here are my thoughts based on both the box score and the eye test:

This game was all about the transition from the 1st to the 2nd quarter.

V: Queen really shined—best performance of the night.

C; Over the course of the game, I kind of liked Black’s intensity—underrated effort.

M: Harris deserves a shoutout for the midgame burst—he went full anti-Zombie with 10 points. WOW.



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Post#12 » by drsd » Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:20 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:Queen >>>>>>>>> Jett


Queen: Probable NBA talent.
Howard: Not NBA-level talent.
Queen >>>>> Howard. No contest.
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Post#13 » by magik9113 » Sat Apr 12, 2025 1:15 pm

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Post#14 » by AdamTheGreek » Sat Apr 12, 2025 2:35 pm

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I’ve been asking since December for the Magic to open a roster spot so we can sign Queen to an NBA 15-man roster contract so we can use him for the postseason. Jeff did nothing when it’s very clear we need his energy on both ends of the floor.
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Post#15 » by Knightro » Sat Apr 12, 2025 3:27 pm

AdamTheGreek wrote:Queen
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I’ve been asking since December for the Magic to open a roster spot so we can sign Queen to an NBA 15-man roster contract so we can use him for the postseason. Jeff did nothing when it’s very clear we need his energy on both ends of the floor.


The problem is... if they had opened up a roster spot in December, it would have been Houstan or CoJo gone and they're both rotation players currently.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #41: Magic 129 - Pacers 115 

Post#16 » by RichCollab » Sat Apr 12, 2025 3:50 pm

drsd wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Queen >>>>>>>>> Jett


Queen: Probable NBA talent.
Howard: Not NBA-level talent.
Queen >>>>> Howard. No contest.


I’m not defending Jett but TQ is 28 and has been playing games in different professional leagues for years.

It’s easy to move on from Jett.
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Post#17 » by drsd » Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:38 pm

RichCollab wrote:
drsd wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Queen >>>>>>>>> Jett


Queen: Probable NBA talent.
Howard: Not NBA-level talent.
Queen >>>>> Howard. No contest.


I’m not defending Jett but TQ is 28 and has been playing games in different professional leagues for years.

It’s easy to move on from Jett.


For clarity, I do not seen Queen as an NBA level talent; as he does not have the career to suggest he is competent to play back-up SG in the NBA.

But: wow was he ace in this scrub game!!!!!


p.s. I agree that, to use your words, "It’s easy to move on from Jett".


EDIT: off-topic, but Houstan's defense was acceptable. Notably, he was very good at playing system defense. A skill that took Redick years to learn.
If Houstan can be :this guy: every game, he deserves a new LLE contract. His 1st quarter was amazing defensively.
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Post#18 » by RichCollab » Sat Apr 12, 2025 6:10 pm

drsd wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
drsd wrote:
Queen: Probable NBA talent.
Howard: Not NBA-level talent.
Queen >>>>> Howard. No contest.


I’m not defending Jett but TQ is 28 and has been playing games in different professional leagues for years.

It’s easy to move on from Jett.


For clarity, I do not seen Queen as an NBA level talent; as he does not have the career to suggest he is competent to play back-up SG in the NBA.

But: wow was he ace in this scrub game!!!!!


p.s. I agree that, to use your words, "It’s easy to move on from Jett".


EDIT: off-topic, but Houstan's defense was acceptable. Notably, he was very good at playing system defense. A skill that took Redick years to learn.
If Houstan can be :this guy: every game, he deserves a new LLE contract. His 1st quarter was amazing defensively.


No reason not to keep Caleb as 14/15th man unless he wants more than league minimum.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #41: Magic 129 - Pacers 115 

Post#19 » by Knightro » Sun Apr 13, 2025 5:58 am

Vest No. 41 Results

Vest - Trevelin Queen
Cummerbund - Anthony Black
Mittens - Goga Bitadze
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Post#20 » by Knightro » Sun Apr 13, 2025 6:00 am

2024-2025 Season Standings (3-2-1 scale)
Franz Wagner - 62
Paolo Banchero - 37
Anthony Black - 24
Cole Anthony - 20
Goga Bitadze - 17
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 14
Jonathan Isaac - 13
Wendell Carter Jr. - 11
Jalen Suggs - 11
Tristan da Silva - 8
Moritz Wagner - 7
Trevelin Queen - 7
Caleb Houstan - 4
Gary Harris - 3
Cory Joseph - 2

Vests
Franz Wagner - 17 (v. BKN, v. NOP, v. WAS, v. CHA, v. IND, v. PHL, at PHX, at LAL, v. DET, at CHA, at BKN, at PHL, v. DET, at SAC, v. SAS, v. WAS, v. LAL)
Paolo Banchero - 7 (at MIA, v. IND, at ATL, at NOP, at WAS, at CHA, at WAS)
Cole Anthony - 4 (v. MIA, at NYK, at MIL, v. BOS)
Tristan da Silva - 2 (v. BKN, at TOR)
Anthony Black - 2 (v. CHA, at CLE)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 2 (at BKN, at SAS)
Trevelin Queen - 2 (v. BOS, at IND)
Jalen Suggs - 1 (v. CHI)
Goga Bitadze - 1 (v. PHX)
Jonathan Isaac - 1 (v. PHL)
Caleb Houstan - 1 (v. SAC)
Wendell Carter Jr. - (v. ATL)

Cummerbunds
Paolo Banchero - 7 (v. PHL, v. DET, at SAC, v. CHA, at MIL, v. LAL, v. ATL)
Anthony Black - 6 (v. NOP, at PHX, v. SAS, v. WAS, at CHA, at IND)
Franz Wagner - 5 (at ATL, at NOP, at SAS, at WAS)
Jalen Suggs - 4 (v. IND, v. CHA, at LAL, v. PHX)
Goga Bitadze - 4 (v. WAS, at BKN, v. BKN, v. SAC)
Jonathan Isaac - 3 (v. IND, v. PHL, at PHL)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 3 (v. CHI, at BKN, v. MIA)
Wendell Carter Jr. - 3 (at NYK, at CLE, at WAS)
Moritz Wagner - 2 (v. BKN, v. DET)
Cole Anthony - 2 (at CHA, at TOR)
Gary Harris - 1 (at MIA)
Tristan da Silva - 1 (v. BOS)

Mittens
Anthony Black - 6 (v. BKN, v. IND, v. WAS, v. IND, at SAC, v. LAL)
Jonathan Isaac - 6 (v. DET, at CHA, at NYK, v. DET, v. SAS, at WAS)
Goga Bitadze - 6 (v. NOP, at PHX, v. CHI, at BKN, v. WAS, at IND)
Cole Anthony - 4 (v. PHX, v. BKN, v. PHL, at ATL)
Franz Wagner - 4 (at MIA, at BKN, at MIL, at CHA)
Moritz Wagner - 3 (v. CHA, v. PHL, at LAL)
Wendell Carter Jr. - 2 (v. BOS, v. CHA)
Cory Joseph - 2 (at NOP, at WAS)
Paolo Banchero - 2 (at CLE, at SAC)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 2 (at TOR, v. ATL)
Jalen Suggs - 1 (at PHL)
Trevelin Queen - 1 (v. MIA)
Caleb Houstan - 1 (at SAS)
Gary Harris - 1 (v. BOS)

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