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2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V

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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1561 » by SkyBill40 » Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:41 pm

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Saberestar wrote:KD, Booker, Beal and Richards out. That's why they are favored by that much.


Oh, I figured Booker would want to play unless he's injured.


Why should he?

Everyone wants to trade his lousy azz and keep Bradley fcking Beal. That is the answer to all our problems.

What a wonderful off season this is going to be. We trade our two best players for a slew of back ups and draft picks while keeping Bradley Beal.


Nobody would rather keep Beal over Booker. The only reason it's even a discussion point is trading Booker gets us assets back for the betterment of the team. Beal doesn't go anywhere unless he wants to.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1562 » by BobbieL » Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:31 pm

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Oh, I figured Booker would want to play unless he's injured.


Why should he?

Everyone wants to trade his lousy azz and keep Bradley fcking Beal. That is the answer to all our problems.

What a wonderful off season this is going to be. We trade our two best players for a slew of back ups and draft picks while keeping Bradley Beal.


Nobody would rather keep Beal over Booker. The only reason it's even a discussion point is trading Booker gets us assets back for the betterment of the team. Beal doesn't go anywhere unless he wants to.


Of course, all things equal, you keep Booker over Beal
But in this case, you can probably build a better team around Beal with the assets from a Booker trade than losing assets in a Beal trade. And ofcourse, including the players from a Durant trade as well

The reason to trade booker is about 2027 and beyond - not just 2025/2026.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1563 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:45 pm

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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1564 » by Mr Puddles » Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:52 pm

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The scenario a wrote a couple of days ago literally happened. Had the Suns won today's s game, the odds of the pick being either #1 or top 4 would have been half of that they will be if we lose the coin flip now.

But of course the Suns decided to give the starters rest after a hard fought season rather than try to limit the chances of another blow of humiliation, because why not give the fanbase yet another slap in the face
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1565 » by Frank Lee » Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:57 pm

Ghost , you need a post and word limit. My gawd. You love a long winded argument and are never wrong. Two great qualities. Eh? The length you go defending ‘your magical cap space plan, is disturbing. Even when you timidly take it to the big board, people shy away from engagement just from the insane volume. Fccck, you can’t even acknowledge that the front office has pretty clearly stated a different path, yet you incessantly blow your whimsical whistle with far fetched blow it up 5 sided trades, second round sleepers and this ‘boy you just wait till 27-28 when we sign our franchise saving free agents’. Like that will somehow will launch us into contention? Yup, everyone is stupid that doesn’t see the wisdom in gutting this team for draft picks and cap space. Because ohhh there is a crime for being middle ranked team next yr with Booker. And he needs to go now because his value is peaking? Barring injury, Book isn’t going to lose any value anytime soon. And there was a time when people wanted to play with him.

Shttt, all I have proposed is stretching Beal to get and stay under the second apron, giving Phnx a lot more flexibility. And a measly 19 million ticked off in cap space ….3 yrs from now when the cap amount will have increased by more than that amount. Keep in mind, your wonder plan clips Phnx for 50 mill in 25/26 and 26/27…… so you can load up on your second rounders and minimum one yr deals for the next two yrs. Oh but wait, may be we can trade Beal because he will be a massive expiring. Why even keep Beal if you are booting Book out the door?

I don’t care so much as what they do. But I think I can see their path or at least one that follows all that they have said so far. It’s just a shame that 3 or 4 fn know it all’s have hijacked these threads with the same old spew over and over and can do nothing but eye poke and demean alternative thoughts, even when they parallel what has been outlined in the media.

The way I see, I’m done commenting on your maniacal input here. There is no point. You are a fn genius GM. Gawd, you have even taken possession of this team with your ‘I’ would do this and ‘I’ would do that rhetoric.

This site is a reflection of this season. This might be an abrasive response to your bomb of red letter rebuttals… but Christ, just give it rest. Stretching Beal is no where near the top of problems with this organization.
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Post#1566 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:01 pm

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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1567 » by Slim Charless » Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:02 pm

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Get one last jab in eh Sky? Christ…. It’s an away game. Dredging up hate dude. He owes nothing to sac town fans. Pizz on him anyway you can.


Facts are facts. He made the statement and he should own it. If he's being held out by the team, whatever. But he, as the franchise player and face of the franchise, should demand to play. It's not about SAC fans and never was.

I like Booker, but this is a bad look for what's amounted to a poor season due to a multitude of reasons.

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Amen! Bookers antics are an insult to me and other fans. May not be to some fans but they are to me.

Basketball players get half a year off and now they even get “rest” days off and barely play back to backs. The NBAs biggest problem is that it accommodated every thing for the players and made no accommodations to the people who are responsible for why the NBA even exists….the fans.

NBA viewership peaked in 1998 (30 million tuned in to watch the finals). And it’s been a slow death since (this year has been a huge decrease). And Adam Silver is just making crap worse. Point is, Booker thinks more highly of himself than the game itself. That’s when you know it’s time to move on!


I've led the "trade Booker" bandwagon for the past year+ and still want him gone. But this is nonsense.

He should demand to play....for the SAC fans? The same people who have probably booed him every time they've seen him 2x a year for the past 10 years? Those same people.....lol

You guys have lost your minds.

He suited up for OUR fans. He owes the people of Sacramento absolutely nothing. Plus, if he blows out his knee then what? Where does that leave the team....totally screwed.

It was mostly likely the team that held him back BTW. Not Booker. Which means they don't want him hurt....maybe because they have other plans for him this summer....

Jesus. You guys have made me agree with Frank on something. Not a position I like being in. He's 100% right too, you can bash Booker for MANY things this season. This is not one.

This whining is just petty.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1568 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:04 pm

If GSW sweeping Houston may help us
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1569 » by BobbieL » Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:49 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:If GSW sweeping Houston may help us


Houston and Detroit going out in R1 would for sure help the Suns
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Post#1570 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:50 pm

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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1571 » by bwgood77 » Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:50 pm

Frank Lee wrote:What a caustic bunch y’all have become. Suppose he plays in this meaningless game and blows out his knee… how then do you trade him? Trivial bttchin at its finest.


I'm not bitchin, just figured he'd want to play because he likes to add points/assists to his stats.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1572 » by SkyBill40 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:07 am

BobbieL wrote:
SkyBill40 wrote:
Puff wrote:
Why should he?

Everyone wants to trade his lousy azz and keep Bradley fcking Beal. That is the answer to all our problems.

What a wonderful off season this is going to be. We trade our two best players for a slew of back ups and draft picks while keeping Bradley Beal.


Nobody would rather keep Beal over Booker. The only reason it's even a discussion point is trading Booker gets us assets back for the betterment of the team. Beal doesn't go anywhere unless he wants to.


Of course, all things equal, you keep Booker over Beal
But in this case, you can probably build a better team around Beal with the assets from a Booker trade than losing assets in a Beal trade. And ofcourse, including the players from a Durant trade as well

The reason to trade booker is about 2027 and beyond - not just 2025/2026.
I'll agree with you there, but this town will implode if Beal were kept over Booker or if all three are sent packing.

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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1573 » by BobbieL » Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:20 am

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Nobody would rather keep Beal over Booker. The only reason it's even a discussion point is trading Booker gets us assets back for the betterment of the team. Beal doesn't go anywhere unless he wants to.


Of course, all things equal, you keep Booker over Beal
But in this case, you can probably build a better team around Beal with the assets from a Booker trade than losing assets in a Beal trade. And ofcourse, including the players from a Durant trade as well

The reason to trade booker is about 2027 and beyond - not just 2025/2026.
I'll agree with you there, but this town will implode if Beal were kept over Booker or if all three are sent packing.

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I think fans would be okay if all three are sent packing - that would be a full on rebuild

I think fans would implode if Beal is brought back next year. And there are VALID reasons that Beal could be on the roster. Beal would be boo'ed though every night if they kept him over "Dbook" -- even thought rationally - -the argument of why one was traded and one was kept makes sense.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1574 » by SunsRback4Good » Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:29 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:If GSW sweeping Houston may help us


No way Houston losses to GS I see Houston beating them in 6 and finding way to advance to WCF. Can they beat OKC is the real question but Houston is no easy pushover. You don’t become a #2 seed out of nowhere they earned it fair and square.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1575 » by starbosa10 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:46 am

no point trading book and blowing it up entirely if we don't have control of our future picks
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1576 » by Slim Charless » Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:59 am

BobbieL wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:If GSW sweeping Houston may help us


Houston and Detroit going out in R1 would for sure help the Suns


That, plus OKC going down in the second round would be a gift from above.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1577 » by KdoubleDees23 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:08 am

SkyBill40 wrote:
Puff wrote:
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Oh, I figured Booker would want to play unless he's injured.


Why should he?

Everyone wants to trade his lousy azz and keep Bradley fcking Beal. That is the answer to all our problems.

What a wonderful off season this is going to be. We trade our two best players for a slew of back ups and draft picks while keeping Bradley Beal.


Nobody would rather keep Beal over Booker. The only reason it's even a discussion point is trading Booker gets us assets back for the betterment of the team. Beal doesn't go anywhere unless he wants to.


Betterment of the team hahaha that’s laughable. If we trade Booker while also trading KD

Be ready for back to back 20 win seasons!
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1578 » by Sunsdeuce » Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:31 am

KdoubleDees23 wrote:
SkyBill40 wrote:
Puff wrote:
Why should he?

Everyone wants to trade his lousy azz and keep Bradley fcking Beal. That is the answer to all our problems.

What a wonderful off season this is going to be. We trade our two best players for a slew of back ups and draft picks while keeping Bradley Beal.


Nobody would rather keep Beal over Booker. The only reason it's even a discussion point is trading Booker gets us assets back for the betterment of the team. Beal doesn't go anywhere unless he wants to.


Betterment of the team hahaha that’s laughable. If we trade Booker while also trading KD

Be ready for back to back 20 win seasons!

As opposed to 30 win win back to back seasons?
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1579 » by SunsRback4Good » Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:09 am

Sunsdeuce wrote:
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Nobody would rather keep Beal over Booker. The only reason it's even a discussion point is trading Booker gets us assets back for the betterment of the team. Beal doesn't go anywhere unless he wants to.


Betterment of the team hahaha that’s laughable. If we trade Booker while also trading KD

Be ready for back to back 20 win seasons!

As opposed to 30 win win back to back seasons?


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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V 

Post#1580 » by Puff » Mon Apr 14, 2025 3:06 am

Frank Lee wrote:Ghost , you need a post and word limit. My gawd. You love a long winded argument and are never wrong. Two great qualities. Eh? The length you go defending ‘your magical cap space plan, is disturbing. Even when you timidly take it to the big board, people shy away from engagement just from the insane volume. Fccck, you can’t even acknowledge that the front office has pretty clearly stated a different path, yet you incessantly blow your whimsical whistle with far fetched blow it up 5 sided trades, second round sleepers and this ‘boy you just wait till 27-28 when we sign our franchise saving free agents’. Like that will somehow will launch us into contention? Yup, everyone is stupid that doesn’t see the wisdom in gutting this team for draft picks and cap space. Because ohhh there is a crime for being middle ranked team next yr with Booker. And he needs to go now because his value is peaking? Barring injury, Book isn’t going to lose any value anytime soon. And there was a time when people wanted to play with him.

Shttt, all I have proposed is stretching Beal to get and stay under the second apron, giving Phnx a lot more flexibility. And a measly 19 million ticked off in cap space ….3 yrs from now when the cap amount will have increased by more than that amount. Keep in mind, your wonder plan clips Phnx for 50 mill in 25/26 and 26/27…… so you can load up on your second rounders and minimum one yr deals for the next two yrs. Oh but wait, may be we can trade Beal because he will be a massive expiring. Why even keep Beal if you are booting Book out the door?

I don’t care so much as what they do. But I think I can see their path or at least one that follows all that they have said so far. It’s just a shame that 3 or 4 fn know it all’s have hijacked these threads with the same old spew over and over and can do nothing but eye poke and demean alternative thoughts, even when they parallel what has been outlined in the media.

The way I see, I’m done commenting on your maniacal input here. There is no point. You are a fn genius GM. Gawd, you have even taken possession of this team with your ‘I’ would do this and ‘I’ would do that rhetoric.

This site is a reflection of this season. This might be an abrasive response to your bomb of red letter rebuttals… but Christ, just give it rest. Stretching Beal is no where near the top of problems with this organization.
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Thanks Frank - I agree.

I can't wait to see this boards reaction when Ish extends and keeps KD.

If all we are offered is a slew of Grayson Allen's and Royce O'Neal's along with guys that have large salaries that can't play while gifting us a bunch of 2nd rounders, I guess we should take that. I can actually see that offer for KD. If so, I keep him. If we get legit players and draft picks, I probably trade him. However, I do not think that is a given.

The hope is to trade Beal. If we are able to do that without giving up draft picks he should immediately become EOY.
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