2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5

[XTC]

i have such a problem with the notion khaman was spoonfed at duke

the way i see it, he spoonfed kon and flagg more than they spoonfed him

anyway we'll see in due time

Elaborate how he was spoon feeding Kon & Flagg

[PhilBlackson]

Because he's so polarizing....it seems like Khaman is destined to be a Raptor lol then when he shows out everyone will say they liked him.

[BoyzNTheHood]

i have such a problem with the notion khaman was spoonfed at duke

the way i see it, he spoonfed kon and flagg more than they spoonfed him

anyway we'll see in due time

Kon was absolutely spoon fed by his teammates this season. He shot over half of his shots from 3, and was assisted on over 90% of them.

Maluach shot 191 shots this season. He was assisted on 54% of them. The majority of his shots came at the rim (81%), and he was assisted on 80% of those.

Cooper Flagg shot 497 shots this season and made 239 of them. He was assisted on 139 of the shots he made, so roughly 58%.

What that tells me is that Duke played a team game and everyone played off of one another, but Maluach was definitely spoon fed just as much as Kon was. He’s a rim runner who relies on his teammates setting him up for his success at the rim.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

i have such a problem with the notion khaman was spoonfed at duke

the way i see it, he spoonfed kon and flagg more than they spoonfed him

anyway we'll see in due time

Kon was absolutely spoon fed by his teammates this season. He shot over half of his shots from 3, and was assisted on over 90% of them.

Maluach shot 191 shots this season. He was assisted on 54% of them. The majority of his shots came at the rim (81%), and he was assisted on 80% of those.

Cooper Flagg shot 497 shots this season and made 239 of them. He was assisted on 139 of the shots he made, so roughly 58%.

What that tells me is that Duke played a team game and everyone played off of one another, but Maluach was definitely spoon fed just as much as Kon was. He’s a rim runner who relies on his teammates setting him up for his success at the rim.

he converts **** few centers on the planet can with his length, lob radius and finishing ability

they relied just as much on the spacing he provided w/ that rim running which was a cut above what 99% of other centers could provide due to how serious of a conversion threat he is each time they run p&r action

one of my friends actually thinks he shouldn't even look to shoot 3s as he might become such a prodigious rim runner teams would be stupid to not abuse that action the maximum amount of times possible per game

[earthtone]

i have such a problem with the notion khaman was spoonfed at duke

the way i see it, he spoonfed kon and flagg more than they spoonfed him

anyway we'll see in due time

Kon was absolutely spoon fed by his teammates this season. He shot over half of his shots from 3, and was assisted on over 90% of them.

Maluach shot 191 shots this season. He was assisted on 54% of them. The majority of his shots came at the rim (81%), and he was assisted on 80% of those.

Cooper Flagg shot 497 shots this season and made 239 of them. He was assisted on 139 of the shots he made, so roughly 58%.

What that tells me is that Duke played a team game and everyone played off of one another, but Maluach was definitely spoon fed just as much as Kon was. He’s a rim runner who relies on his teammates setting him up for his success at the rim.

he converts **** few centers on the planet can with his length, lob radius and finishing ability

they relied just as much on the spacing he provided w/ that rim running which was a cut above what 99% of other centers could provide due to how serious of a conversion threat he is each time they run p&r action

Yah, his catch radius is absolutely absurd and I wonder what % of Kon's total assists came on the pick and roll directly to Khaman. Having that kind of gravity in the middle of the floor makes playmaking easier for everyone else and a lot of guys on that Duke squad benefited from his presence.

He's very high floor & very high ceiling IMO, he's comfortably in the Top 5 in this class

[earthtone]

Ware, Jarrett Allen, Nikola Jokic, Isaiah Hartenstein, Alperen Sengun, Daniel Gafford, Ivica Zubac, Ives Missi, Clint Capela, Ives Missi and Rudy Gobert.

Take away those bigs drafted in the top 3 (Wemby, Chet, Embiid, AD, KAT, Evan Mobley), you can just wait until after the lottery instead of the rest of the lottery.

Here's every big drafted from 4-14 in the ten years:

2015: Porzingis, Myles Turner
2016: Dragan Bender, Jakob Poeltl, Domantas Sabonis, Papagiannis
2017: Zach Collins, Bam Adebayo
2018: JJJ, Mo Bamba, WCJ
2019: Jaxson Hayes
2020: Jalen Smith
2021: No One
2022: Jalen Duren
2023: Derek Lively
2024: Donovan Clingan, Zach Edey,

A ton of talent and important players for their franchises there. If a big is the BPA, no reason not to draft them in the lottery.

The point of contention is if he’s actually BPA or if it’s a Tidjane type pick where the FO is really high on the guy even though he isn’t actually that great compared to comp.

That's not what PSubs was saying, he said if you're not getting a centre that's consensus Top 2/3, there's no point drafting one at all before the 20's. Regardless of what you think of Maluach specifically, I don't think that's a good overall draft philosophy.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Kon was absolutely spoon fed by his teammates this season. He shot over half of his shots from 3, and was assisted on over 90% of them.

Maluach shot 191 shots this season. He was assisted on 54% of them. The majority of his shots came at the rim (81%), and he was assisted on 80% of those.

Cooper Flagg shot 497 shots this season and made 239 of them. He was assisted on 139 of the shots he made, so roughly 58%.

What that tells me is that Duke played a team game and everyone played off of one another, but Maluach was definitely spoon fed just as much as Kon was. He’s a rim runner who relies on his teammates setting him up for his success at the rim.

he converts **** few centers on the planet can with his length, lob radius and finishing ability

they relied just as much on the spacing he provided w/ that rim running which was a cut above what 99% of other centers could provide due to how serious of a conversion threat he is each time they run p&r action

Yah, his catch radius is absolutely absurd and I wonder what % of Kon's total assists came on the pick and roll directly to Khaman. Having that kind of gravity in the middle of the floor makes playmaking easier for everyone else and a lot of guys on that Duke squad benefited from his presence.

He's very high floor & very high ceiling IMO, he's comfortably in the Top 5 in this class

i could be way off but just off top of head at least 50% of his assists i'd say

so much of duke's offense revolved around maluach as a lob threat

actually i'd say maluach was the centerpiece of that offense on a per minute basis with flagg bully ball, proctor pullup 3s and kon C&S being secondary to him... and we're talking about the #1 offense in CBB

Watch on YouTube

he very well may be generational rim running 5

[BoyzNTheHood]

he converts **** few centers on the planet can with his length, lob radius and finishing ability

they relied just as much on the spacing he provided w/ that rim running which was a cut above what 99% of other centers could provide due to how serious of a conversion threat he is each time they run p&r action

Yah, his catch radius is absolutely absurd and I wonder what % of Kon's total assists came on the pick and roll directly to Khaman. Having that kind of gravity in the middle of the floor makes playmaking easier for everyone else and a lot of guys on that Duke squad benefited from his presence.

He's very high floor & very high ceiling IMO, he's comfortably in the Top 5 in this class

i could be way off but just off top of head at least 50% of his assists i'd say

so much of duke's offense revolved around maluach as a lob threat

actually i'd say maluach was the centerpiece of that offense on a per minute basis with flagg bully ball, proctor pullup 3s and kon C&S being secondary to him... and we're talking about the #1 offense in CBB

Watch on YouTube

he very well may be generational rim running 5

The centrepiece of the offense? Come on man. And we’re going to stop throwing around the word generational like it’s nothing. Generational is the new superstar.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Yah, his catch radius is absolutely absurd and I wonder what % of Kon's total assists came on the pick and roll directly to Khaman. Having that kind of gravity in the middle of the floor makes playmaking easier for everyone else and a lot of guys on that Duke squad benefited from his presence.

He's very high floor & very high ceiling IMO, he's comfortably in the Top 5 in this class

i could be way off but just off top of head at least 50% of his assists i'd say

so much of duke's offense revolved around maluach as a lob threat

actually i'd say maluach was the centerpiece of that offense on a per minute basis with flagg bully ball, proctor pullup 3s and kon C&S being secondary to him... and we're talking about the #1 offense in CBB

Watch on YouTube

he very well may be generational rim running 5

The centrepiece of the offense? Come on man. And we’re going to stop throwing around the word generational like it’s nothing. Generational is the new superstar.

khaman lobs were the primary driver of that offense 100% so you come on!

generational isn't nothing. edey was a generational post scorer in college. given what he's doing at his age khaman could very well end up a generational rim runner... the best rim running 5 of the last 10-15 yrs. he has the reach, touch and skill for that to come true.

you still have 2 months to get on board

[BoyzNTheHood]

i could be way off but just off top of head at least 50% of his assists i'd say

so much of duke's offense revolved around maluach as a lob threat

actually i'd say maluach was the centerpiece of that offense on a per minute basis with flagg bully ball, proctor pullup 3s and kon C&S being secondary to him... and we're talking about the #1 offense in CBB

Watch on YouTube

he very well may be generational rim running 5

The centrepiece of the offense? Come on man. And we’re going to stop throwing around the word generational like it’s nothing. Generational is the new superstar.

khaman lobs were the primary driver of that offense 100% so you come on!

generational isn't nothing. edey was a generational post scorer in college. given what he's doing at his age khaman could very well end up a generational rim runner... the best rim running 5 of the last 10-15 yrs. he has the reach, touch and skill for that to come true.

you still have 2 months to get on board

No they weren't. Cooper Flagg's gravity was the driving factor in that offense and he was absolutely what Duke's offense revolved around, followed by Kon's gravity as a shooter and Maluach's gravity as a roller.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

The centrepiece of the offense? Come on man. And we’re going to stop throwing around the word generational like it’s nothing. Generational is the new superstar.

khaman lobs were the primary driver of that offense 100% so you come on!

generational isn't nothing. edey was a generational post scorer in college. given what he's doing at his age khaman could very well end up a generational rim runner... the best rim running 5 of the last 10-15 yrs. he has the reach, touch and skill for that to come true.

you still have 2 months to get on board

No they weren't. Cooper Flagg's gravity was the driving factor in that offense and he was absolutely what Duke's offense revolved around, followed by Kon's gravity as a shooter and Maluach's gravity as a roller.

[BoyzNTheHood]

khaman lobs were the primary driver of that offense 100% so you come on!

generational isn't nothing. edey was a generational post scorer in college. given what he's doing at his age khaman could very well end up a generational rim runner... the best rim running 5 of the last 10-15 yrs. he has the reach, touch and skill for that to come true.

you still have 2 months to get on board

No they weren't. Cooper Flagg's gravity was the driving factor in that offense and he was absolutely what Duke's offense revolved around, followed by Kon's gravity as a shooter and Maluach's gravity as a roller.

[DG88]

I'd be happy with any of these players if we stay 7th

Fears
Maluach
Johnson
Kuneppel
Queen
Jakucionis

[PhilBlackson]

I'd be happy with any of these players if we stay 7th

Fears
Maluach
Johnson
Kuneppel
Queen
Jakucionis

I'd hope to trade down before drafting Kon or Jak at 7.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I'd be happy with any of these players if we stay 7th

Fears
Maluach
Johnson
Kuneppel
Queen
Jakucionis

I'd hope to trade down before drafting Kon or Jak at 7.

you mean you'd demand a gigantic trade down

[Syd-TK3]

Generational rim running 5 is a hilarious description. I know it's a compliment but it sounds satire lol

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Generational rim running 5 is a hilarious description. I know it's a compliment but it sounds satire lol

It's not at all, you'd be surprised how impactful being the highest volume lob team in the NBA with elite finishing would be in terms of team offense. Would send TS% through roof.

Remember, rim is most efficient place to score in the game of basketball.

[Duffman100]

Edey is shaq
Malauch is generational

The hyperbole is just ...

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Edey is shaq
Malauch is generational

The hyperbole is just ...

can you stop trolling, you're supposed to lead by example here and you just use this place for your own personal entertainment. you're not dumb enough to interpret "generational rim running 5" as generational 5. there is a limitation to what the archetype of a rim running 5 can provide in terms of USG and efficiency on a basketball floor because they're not heavily involved in playmaking or isolated looks/post ups.

[Duffman100]

Edey is shaq
Malauch is generational

The hyperbole is just ...

can you stop trolling, you're supposed to lead by example here and you just use this place for your own personal entertainment. you're not dumb enough to interpret "generational rim running 5" as generational 5. there is a limitation to what the archetype of a rim running 5 can provide in terms of USG and efficiency on a basketball floor because they're not heavily involved in playmaking or isolated looks/post ups.

Stop making ridiculous claims and people will stop calling you out for it. Simples.