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Re: 5th Seed Watch (was 6th Seed Watch) 

Post#561 » by ILOVEIT » Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:17 am

I wanted Warriors to not face Lakers. They might have lost in the same way....two gifted big scorers ISOing them to death. Undersized.

I preferred they play Houston or OKC in the first round so I hope they win against Memphis and get at least a couple days rest.

Not a bad loss....just a bad matchup.
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Re: 5th Seed Watch (was 6th Seed Watch) 

Post#562 » by marthafokker » Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:22 am

whatisacenter wrote:I can’t believe Kerr played JK all those minutes…gifted the Clipps a W.


Kerry used his best version of JK... GP2. :lol:

Undersized and even less offensive skill.
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Re: 5th Seed Watch (was 6th Seed Watch) 

Post#563 » by DAWill1128 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:27 am

This season was always gonna fall on Kuminga, this is the choice the franchise made. For years they bypassed on better players and fits in trades, they held the vets hostage on being able to contend because they were enamored by his athleticism. They bypassed on trades this offseason hoping JK could become a #2 and he wasn't. They get Butler who is a real #2 to where Kuminga can slot as a #3 scorer, then Kerr abandons the guy from the rotation. Wtf Kerr, the team needs Kuminga to bring something in order to contend. We don't have enough pop, firepower, athleticism if Kuminga cannot be in the rotation contributing.

What are we gonna do with Kuminga now? We've bypassed so much, and held on for so long. Him not in the crunch of the season rotation tanks his value. Our best shot at even next year was the possible sign and trade of him, how much less would you get now? Are you gonna give him a huge deal? Or are you gonna let him walk? I worry they let him walk and the entire Kuminga era will be a major wtf were they thinking? I wanted the team to draft Kuminga, but they've miscalculated every step of the way.
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Post#564 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:43 am

It's so bizarre to go all in on Kuminga, yet he can't get off the bench in a must win game.

They've cornered themselves with him. It's a loose lose situation going into the offseason.
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Post#565 » by WarriorGM » Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:48 am

DAWill1128 wrote:This season was always gonna fall on Kuminga, this is the choice the franchise made. For years they bypassed on better players and fits in trades, they held the vets hostage on being able to contend because they were enamored by his athleticism. They bypassed on trades this offseason hoping JK could become a #2 and he wasn't. They get Butler who is a real #2 to where Kuminga can slot as a #3 scorer, then Kerr abandons the guy from the rotation. Wtf Kerr, the team needs Kuminga to bring something in order to contend. We don't have enough pop, firepower, athleticism if Kuminga cannot be in the rotation contributing.

What are we gonna do with Kuminga now? We've bypassed so much, and held on for so long. Him not in the crunch of the season rotation tanks his value. Our best shot at even next year was the possible sign and trade of him, how much less would you get now? Are you gonna give him a huge deal? Or are you gonna let him walk? I worry they let him walk and the entire Kuminga era will be a major wtf were they thinking? I wanted the team to draft Kuminga, but they've miscalculated every step of the way.


True. This is one more frustrating thing with Kerr. The team gambled on Kuminga becoming something but even if the season ends in disappointment the way this is playing out we won't even know if it was clearly the wrong move. It's turning into a repeat of two years ago when Kerr refused to play Kuminga and Lamb in the playoffs despite not having much else to work with. Not to say he should be used whenever possible—he shouldn't. But it would seem a no brainer for example to mix things up and give Harden a variety of looks and include Kuminga in the Moody and GPII mix.
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Re: 5th Seed Watch (was 6th Seed Watch) 

Post#566 » by HiRez » Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:07 am

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AirP. wrote:LAC didn't win the game, GS lost the game. The Clippers just played like a solid playoff team.

We just played prime Kawhi and Harden and we almost won. Just didn't have it in the end.

Except it's NOT prime Kawhi or prime Harden. These guys are still great, but they're both 5-7 years past their prime. This was as close to a playoff game as you can get in the regular season and it's an ill omen the Warriors weren't able to get it done. Now they will live with the consequences, which will not be kind to an aging team. Extra game(s), less rest, and even if they make it out of the play-in, the right to play a very young and athletic, very well-rested Houston or OKC team.
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Re: 5th Seed Watch (was 6th Seed Watch) 

Post#567 » by floppymoose » Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:09 am

Team is not a contender. It was never going to be one. There were zero players who changed teams this season who would have made this team a contender. The problem is not Kerr. The mistake was Dunleavy's. I'm not calling for his head, because it was his rookie season as a GM. But if he doesn't begin the rebuild this offseason then he needs to go.
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Post#568 » by HiRez » Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:11 am

cpower wrote:This roster needs some serious change.. need more size and shooting. if we are not going to play Moody at least play some Santos

Rebounds were 42-25, massively in favor of the Clippers. You cannot seriously try to tell me our size is not a problem. Sometimes they can overcome it in other ways, tonight it killed them, and it's going to be a problem with a lot of the teams they might face in the playoffs.
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Post#569 » by WarriorGM » Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:15 am

floppymoose wrote:Team is not a contender. It was never going to be one. There were zero players who changed teams this season who would have made this team a contender. The problem is not Kerr. The mistake was Dunleavy's. I'm not calling for his head, because it was his rookie season as a GM. But if he doesn't begin the rebuild this offseason then he needs to go.


I disagree. If Kuminga and Moody are at 2015 Harrison Barnes level, this team could go far. It's not too much to expect of them. Both Kuminga and Moody were seen as reasonable picks at the same spot Barnes was chosen and they've had more years in the league. If they haven't reached that stage yet then while it's certainly partly on them you also have to look at the coaching and development.
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Post#570 » by HiRez » Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:17 am

Hoopstar23 wrote:that Podz turnover was so brutal in the 4th

If you mean the travel, that was essentially a shot clock violation, he got the ball with time running down, Clips knew it and smothered him, not much he could do there, the possession was already lost at that point.
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Re: 5th Seed Watch (was 6th Seed Watch) 

Post#571 » by cladden » Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:24 am

floppymoose wrote:Team is not a contender. It was never going to be one. There were zero players who changed teams this season who would have made this team a contender. The problem is not Kerr. The mistake was Dunleavy's. I'm not calling for his head, because it was his rookie season as a GM. But if he doesn't begin the rebuild this offseason then he needs to go.


Surely you don't believe that Dunleavy's word counts as much as Lacob's in that discussion? He should argue for it. Whether Lacob wants another season of us being at roughly this level while we still have Curry, Butler and Draymond is what decides this. Pretty understandable if he does tbh. I would have liked a rebuild before this season personally but it wasn't going to happen.
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Post#572 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:32 am

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floppymoose wrote:Team is not a contender. It was never going to be one. There were zero players who changed teams this season who would have made this team a contender. The problem is not Kerr. The mistake was Dunleavy's. I'm not calling for his head, because it was his rookie season as a GM. But if he doesn't begin the rebuild this offseason then he needs to go.


Surely you don't believe that Dunleavy's word counts as much as Lacob's in that discussion? He should argue for it. Whether Lacob wants another season of us being at roughly this level while we still have Curry, Butler and Draymond is what decides this. Pretty understandable if he does tbh. I would have liked a rebuild before this season personally but it wasn't going to happen.


Lacob is calling the shots.

The team had a chance for a retool, but gambled on kuminga taking the next step. As dwill mentioned, he's been taking out of all trade talks and thus chose to keep him over wiggins (who btw would look great next to Jimmy and dray)

However, season is not over. Imo, we have a good match up vs the Grizzlies.
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Post#573 » by HiRez » Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:32 am

And this is why all those lazy-ass performances against bad teams, most recently the Wemby-less Spurs, come back to bite you in the ass. Any one of those wins and this team would be seeded and resting all next week.
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Post#574 » by powerball1373 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:39 am

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multo wrote:
AirP. wrote:LAC didn't win the game, GS lost the game. The Clippers just played like a solid playoff team.

We just played prime Kawhi and Harden and we almost won. Just didn't have it in the end.

Except it's NOT prime Kawhi or prime Harden. These guys are still great, but they're both 5-7 years past their prime. This was as close to a playoff game as you can get in the regular season and it's an ill omen the Warriors weren't able to get it done. Now they will live with the consequences, which will not be kind to an aging team. Extra game(s), less rest, and even if they make it out of the play-in, the right to play a very young and athletic, very well-rested Houston or OKC team.


They may not be in their prime anymore, but that was every bit prime Kawhi and Harden tonight. Just like Steph isn't in his prime anymore, but you can get prime Steph on any given night.
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Post#575 » by Onus » Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:48 am

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cladden wrote:
floppymoose wrote:Team is not a contender. It was never going to be one. There were zero players who changed teams this season who would have made this team a contender. The problem is not Kerr. The mistake was Dunleavy's. I'm not calling for his head, because it was his rookie season as a GM. But if he doesn't begin the rebuild this offseason then he needs to go.


Surely you don't believe that Dunleavy's word counts as much as Lacob's in that discussion? He should argue for it. Whether Lacob wants another season of us being at roughly this level while we still have Curry, Butler and Draymond is what decides this. Pretty understandable if he does tbh. I would have liked a rebuild before this season personally but it wasn't going to happen.


Lacob is calling the shots.

The team had a chance for a retool, but gambled on kuminga taking the next step. As dwill mentioned, he's been taking out of all trade talks and thus chose to keep him over wiggins (who btw would look great next to Jimmy and dray)

However, season is not over. Imo, we have a good match up vs the Grizzlies.

We need a 5th player. Gp2 should not be the 5th guy. We need a poa defender who can shoot. If only Kerr could trust moody and Moody could shoot. Our only real hope is to sign and trade jk for someone now.

2 timelines really screwed us because our draft picks sucked and we refused to move off of them.

The worst thing about this loss was that it went to ot and we get very little rest for the play in game.
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Re: 5th Seed Watch (was 6th Seed Watch) 

Post#576 » by multo » Mon Apr 14, 2025 3:18 am

powerball1373 wrote:
HiRez wrote:
multo wrote:We just played prime Kawhi and Harden and we almost won. Just didn't have it in the end.

Except it's NOT prime Kawhi or prime Harden. These guys are still great, but they're both 5-7 years past their prime. This was as close to a playoff game as you can get in the regular season and it's an ill omen the Warriors weren't able to get it done. Now they will live with the consequences, which will not be kind to an aging team. Extra game(s), less rest, and even if they make it out of the play-in, the right to play a very young and athletic, very well-rested Houston or OKC team.


They may not be in their prime anymore, but that was every bit prime Kawhi and Harden tonight. Just like Steph isn't in his prime anymore, but you can get prime Steph on any given night.

Yes that is what I meant. That was the best version of that duo on this stage of their career. Maybe not in their prime anymore, but that 2 players were almost unguardable. And what a time for them to show up especially Harden whom we know disappears in these types of games.
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Post#577 » by cpower » Mon Apr 14, 2025 4:36 am

DAWill1128 wrote:This season was always gonna fall on Kuminga, this is the choice the franchise made. For years they bypassed on better players and fits in trades, they held the vets hostage on being able to contend because they were enamored by his athleticism. They bypassed on trades this offseason hoping JK could become a #2 and he wasn't. They get Butler who is a real #2 to where Kuminga can slot as a #3 scorer, then Kerr abandons the guy from the rotation. Wtf Kerr, the team needs Kuminga to bring something in order to contend. We don't have enough pop, firepower, athleticism if Kuminga cannot be in the rotation contributing.

What are we gonna do with Kuminga now? We've bypassed so much, and held on for so long. Him not in the crunch of the season rotation tanks his value. Our best shot at even next year was the possible sign and trade of him, how much less would you get now? Are you gonna give him a huge deal? Or are you gonna let him walk? I worry they let him walk and the entire Kuminga era will be a major wtf were they thinking? I wanted the team to draft Kuminga, but they've miscalculated every step of the way.

maybe but the team was absolutely the best when JK was hurt and since his return team has taken a clear step back. In 2022 we won because wiseman's injury and maybe we should have traded JK earlier too for the same reason. I just cant see him become a serious player in this league
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Post#578 » by multo » Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:00 am

This was the perfect playoff Butler game we all anticipated and too bad we blew it. Any news on his knee injury?
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Post#579 » by Jax_23 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:42 am

Where was the Clippers thread?


vs Clippers 4/13/25

1) Moody looked like he didn't want to be out there. Did he have the flu or something? -16 plus minus. These dudes better START REALIZING they're playing for their privilege to be a GSW. Choke in the playoffs or play-ins and we'll trade for someone else. I am not sold yet on MOODY JK BP as long term options. You have to prove you're capable of stepping it up.

2) Draymond better be in the gym working on his layups. Bricked a 2 ft wide open layup that woulda tied it up in OT. C'mon maan.

3) I never want the ball going to Buddy Hield in a clutch situation ever again. Dude is pure trash / low iq when there's any pressure on him. (6 seconds on shot clock and he chucks a prayer that doesn't even hit rim with the season on the line smh). Where did I see that before? O ya 76ers Knicks playoffs when their season was on the line he airballs I think over the backboard or something lmao :lol: Opposite of composure. I blame Kerr for having the ball go to him and I blame Jimmy throwing it to him. You don't put him in that situation if you know any better. Woulda taken a Curry triple-teamed half court shot instead of whatever the hell that was from Hield.

4) I understand the GP3 sub in. Warriors couldn't stop Harden and Kawhi so we needed defense.

5) While I'm at it, I'm so sick of Azuduike as an announcer. He's so cool. He's just soooooo cool. I mean that's my takeaway from hearing him. He says super super cool words like "He's different" and "Going at his life" and "on his head." He's a walking urban dictionary cliche spitter. I mean that level of analysis is just ELITE. He has nothing to draw from 'cauase his career was pretty mediocre and short (208 total games). Also having a monotone announcer is amazing. How we go from the best announcers in the NBA to the worst?
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Post#580 » by whatisacenter » Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:48 am

multo wrote:This was the perfect playoff Butler game we all anticipated and too bad we blew it. Any news on his knee injury?


It just looked like a thigh contusion....he should be fine if Jim Barnett takes a look at it.
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