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It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated

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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#121 » by Jax_23 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:33 am

I mean he's doing a little better but I still think his ceiling is DiVincenzo - which isn't bad if you want a good role player. All star? Never. Wake me when he's a #1 #2 or #3 option go-to guy. Idc if I'm wrong on this I want good players. But still a career role player.
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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#122 » by Twinkie defense » Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:57 am

He's a starter so by definition not a role player. Podz has been playing really well, he's already better than Donte I would say.
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Post#123 » by whatisacenter » Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:59 am

It's his defense that's the issue.
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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#124 » by Jax_23 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 2:28 am

Twinkie defense wrote:He's a starter so by definition not a role player. Podz has been playing really well, he's already better than Donte I would say.


A lot of starters would be bench players on good teams so imo still a role player. The problem with being a generalist as a role player is he's not a specialist at anything, which is the value of a lot of role players (e.g. Shaun Livingston as floor general or David West as a post and reb presence). So yeah he'll give us some good games but he's gonna have to be more consistent in games that count (today and playoffs) to be considered a long term option as a starter.

The play-in and playoffs if we make it should be the last audition for Moody, JK, BP (they're old enough, 4th season or 22 years +) to prove their worth on this team. If they do good, live to see another day, if they'yre mediocre, trading block in the offseason.
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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#125 » by cpower » Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:14 am

he has a ok season but played his worst game in the biggest game of the season...if he cant be a winning player in the playoffs we are 1st round bound.
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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#126 » by floppymoose » Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:32 am

He had a rough game. For a second year player in his draft slot, he is doing well overall.
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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#127 » by Onus » Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:42 am

Crazy to be complaining about bp. Moody has taken 4 years to carve out a role. Jk still hasn’t. Bp basically our 4th best player in his 2nd year now. Yea sad state of affairs.
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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#128 » by multo » Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:14 pm

Just gotta make his shots because he's getting a lot of open looks. Again, when he or Buddy Hield gives 20 or more, this team is a different juggernaut. Can't rely on Steph and Jimmy all the time.
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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#129 » by superunknown » Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:34 pm

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Twinkie defense wrote:He's a starter so by definition not a role player. Podz has been playing really well, he's already better than Donte I would say.


A lot of starters would be bench players on good teams so imo still a role player. The problem with being a generalist as a role player is he's not a specialist at anything, which is the value of a lot of role players (e.g. Shaun Livingston as floor general or David West as a post and reb presence). So yeah he'll give us some good games but he's gonna have to be more consistent in games that count (today and playoffs) to be considered a long term option as a starter.

The play-in and playoffs if we make it should be the last audition for Moody, JK, BP (they're old enough, 4th season or 22 years +) to prove their worth on this team. If they do good, live to see another day, if they'yre mediocre, trading block in the offseason.


totally agree.
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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#130 » by Impuniti » Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:46 pm

multo wrote:Just gotta make his shots because he's getting a lot of open looks. Again, when he or Buddy Hield gives 20 or more, this team is a different juggernaut. Can't rely on Steph and Jimmy all the time.

That's been the issue in general. Even Dray has games where he's almost a zero offensively or mid defensively. Only two guys are consistently reliable, Dray kinda is, and then the young bloods you might as well throw a coin and see what you get (as well as Buddy). If Warriors had a consistent 15 a night guy as a 3rd option, they could be favorites from the West.
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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#131 » by cpower » Sat May 3, 2025 7:03 pm

if he cant make shot he is useless out there. 10 pts on 50%TS is just terrible for a guard. I dont know if he can survive in this league
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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#132 » by superunknown » Sat May 3, 2025 7:14 pm

cpower wrote:if he cant make shot he is useless out there. 10 pts on 50%TS is just terrible for a guard. I dont know if he can survive in this league


but it's not even this. it's not just making shots. you need to be consistent in making them. you cannot go off for 30 points one night and then scoring 8 points in the next 3 games before having another good shooting night, you need to be consistent. ofc there will be some nights you shoot the lights out and some stinkers , but 15-16 points per night should be the rule, not the ups and downs.
same for moody. it's not just about making shots, it's also the consistency you make them.
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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#133 » by ILOVEIT » Sat May 3, 2025 9:58 pm

We often have an isolated home view of our players.

Any six man in the league, if given Podz's minutes, would equal or exceed his numbers. Are you telling me that dudes can't score twenty now and then or take a charge? For all the surprisingly nice games he's played, Podz has laid eggs 60% of the time (or greater).

Sigh...but do we add him to the Wiseman, Kuminga dumpster of failed experiments?
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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#134 » by and1GS » Sun May 4, 2025 12:55 am

Twinkie defense wrote:He's a starter so by definition not a role player. Podz has been playing really well, he's already better than Donte I would say.


Donte is a great rotation player and I would take Podz over him every day of the week. Unless you were expecting him to be an All-Star this year, I'm not sure how you can be disappointed in his performance post injury.
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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#135 » by jozef » Sun May 4, 2025 9:29 am

and1GS wrote:
Twinkie defense wrote:He's a starter so by definition not a role player. Podz has been playing really well, he's already better than Donte I would say.


Donte is a great rotation player and I would take Podz over him every day of the week. Unless you were expecting him to be an All-Star this year, I'm not sure how you can be disappointed in his performance post injury.

Donte is starter quality. Just great in right team.
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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#136 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Sun May 4, 2025 12:27 pm

Podz was third on the team this year after Curry and Draymond in plus minus Which I think is the most important stat and measuring a players actual value to winning games. Butler might be ahead of Podz in plus minus per minute.
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Post#137 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Sun May 4, 2025 12:29 pm

Pods shoots threes well enough that he is a floor spacer because he must be defended from the three-point line.
Podz is not overated. I haven’t seen any of us reading pods all that high, so he isn’t overrated
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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#138 » by cpower » Sun May 4, 2025 6:42 pm

SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:Pods shoots threes well enough that he is a floor spacer because he must be defended from the three-point line.
Podz is not overated. I haven’t seen any of us reading pods all that high, so he isn’t overrated

I dont think he is overrated he is just not good enough. He will be a good 2 guard playing along side with a big time scorer like Curry/Dame/Mitchell but he can't be your 2nd or 3rd option. How much money are you going to throw at him when you dont have a 1st/2nd/3rd option when Curry Jimmy retires? This team has a few 5-10 men rotational player but missing top dogs.
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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#139 » by Jax_23 » Sun May 4, 2025 6:57 pm

Podz is trash until he proves otherwise in games (like tonight) when it counts. He's got ya'll fooled by having a couple good games. He belongs on the bench not starting lineup or starter minutes. He needs to stay in his lane. The ball has been in hands WAAAAY too much in this series. Idc if Curry is triple teamed - I trust Curry, Jimmy, and Draymond to make a play. How many times have we seen BP get locked up with the shot clock running down? 'Cause he has inferior skills. No knock on him 'cause it seems he gives effort, he's just not at that level and I don't see him ever getting to that level.

This series feels like the kind where something is going on with perhaps Lacob, Dunleavy, and Kerr saying "these guys have to play x amount of minutes" and they stick to this doomed script despite it not working (and on the verge of blowing a 3-1 lead again). That's the type of political sht that gets teams beat instead of adapting (ie idk try playing Kuminga just for kicks) etc.

So far, Kerr has been outcoached and throwing sht at the wall and seeing if it sticks. At the same time, this isn't a championship roster at all and the only way they could get to that level with this rosters is if a) Curry, Jimmy, & Draymond have historical heroics b) "The Others" massively overachieve / play above their weight.
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Re: It's only been a year and Brandin Podziemski is already Overrated 

Post#140 » by Jax_23 » Mon May 5, 2025 2:31 am

OVER-RATED

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