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Darren wrote:I think the Mavs needs to train Lively and Christie to be way more impactful players on both ends coming offseason. Both need to get stronger to be better defensive archors while take more initiatives to be significantly better offensive players. Teams sleep on the duos a lot last month.
Darren wrote:I think the Mavs needs to train Lively and Christie to be way more impactful players on both ends coming offseason. Both need to get stronger to be better defensive archors while take more initiatives to be significantly better offensive players. Teams sleep on the duos a lot last month.
Teffer10 wrote:Darren wrote:I think the Mavs needs to train Lively and Christie to be way more impactful players on both ends coming offseason. Both need to get stronger to be better defensive archors while take more initiatives to be significantly better offensive players. Teams sleep on the duos a lot last month.
Right now Christie is Marquise Daniel with Josh Howard potential.
Lively still has an upside but dont see him being much of an impactful offensive player. We'll be lucky if his ceiling is Tyson Chandler.
At best, our future in about 2 years is to rebuild this thing around two really good role players, the next 2 draft picks, and anything we can get for PJ, and Naji.
Not a very bright future at all.
Teffer10 wrote:Darren wrote:I think the Mavs needs to train Lively and Christie to be way more impactful players on both ends coming offseason. Both need to get stronger to be better defensive archors while take more initiatives to be significantly better offensive players. Teams sleep on the duos a lot last month.
Right now Christie is Marquise Daniel with Josh Howard potential.
Lively still has an upside but dont see him being much of an impactful offensive player. We'll be lucky if his ceiling is Tyson Chandler.
At best, our future in about 2 years is to rebuild this thing around two really good role players, the next 2 draft picks, and anything we can get for PJ, and Naji.
Not a very bright future at all.
Bob8 wrote:Teffer10 wrote:Darren wrote:I think the Mavs needs to train Lively and Christie to be way more impactful players on both ends coming offseason. Both need to get stronger to be better defensive archors while take more initiatives to be significantly better offensive players. Teams sleep on the duos a lot last month.
Right now Christie is Marquise Daniel with Josh Howard potential.
Lively still has an upside but dont see him being much of an impactful offensive player. We'll be lucky if his ceiling is Tyson Chandler.
At best, our future in about 2 years is to rebuild this thing around two really good role players, the next 2 draft picks, and anything we can get for PJ, and Naji.
Not a very bright future at all.
The saddest story is about Lively. He was born to play with Luka. With AD and 0 playmaking I can easily see him ending in the bench, because AD playing on 4 with Lively on 5 will never work.
Stupidity of Kidd and Nico in thinking that you can play AD together with a non shooting big is hard to understand. You have 2 good bigs and you trade away generational Pg for another big? Even if Luka and AD were the same age and the same talent, you just don't do that trade, because you totally destroy structure of the team.
Michaellam1987 wrote:Bob8 wrote:Teffer10 wrote:Right now Christie is Marquise Daniel with Josh Howard potential.
Lively still has an upside but dont see him being much of an impactful offensive player. We'll be lucky if his ceiling is Tyson Chandler.
At best, our future in about 2 years is to rebuild this thing around two really good role players, the next 2 draft picks, and anything we can get for PJ, and Naji.
Not a very bright future at all.
The saddest story is about Lively. He was born to play with Luka. With AD and 0 playmaking I can easily see him ending in the bench, because AD playing on 4 with Lively on 5 will never work.
Stupidity of Kidd and Nico in thinking that you can play AD together with a non shooting big is hard to understand. You have 2 good bigs and you trade away generational Pg for another big? Even if Luka and AD were the same age and the same talent, you just don't do that trade, because you totally destroy structure of the team.
Actually it may work, if AD can go back to the time in NOP, when he shoot 3 ball at decent efficiency, and some tailor made offensive scheme, see CLE. However, coach Kidd will never able to do that from the offensive end.
Michaellam1987 wrote:Bob8 wrote:Teffer10 wrote:Right now Christie is Marquise Daniel with Josh Howard potential.
Lively still has an upside but dont see him being much of an impactful offensive player. We'll be lucky if his ceiling is Tyson Chandler.
At best, our future in about 2 years is to rebuild this thing around two really good role players, the next 2 draft picks, and anything we can get for PJ, and Naji.
Not a very bright future at all.
The saddest story is about Lively. He was born to play with Luka. With AD and 0 playmaking I can easily see him ending in the bench, because AD playing on 4 with Lively on 5 will never work.
Stupidity of Kidd and Nico in thinking that you can play AD together with a non shooting big is hard to understand. You have 2 good bigs and you trade away generational Pg for another big? Even if Luka and AD were the same age and the same talent, you just don't do that trade, because you totally destroy structure of the team.
Actually it may work, if AD can go back to the time in NOP, when he shoot 3 ball at decent efficiency, and some tailor made offensive scheme, see CLE. However, coach Kidd will never able to do that from the offensive end.
arkuo wrote:So I did some reading on KD trades, with PHX being on the 2nd apron, they need to match salaries dollar for dollar. Finding a trade partner that could match this to the last cent is like hitting the lottery. It would be difficult to find a trade partner for that. Not even Dallas can match that.
What PHX needs to do is bite the bullet and just blow it up. Buy out Durant and start over. However Beal has plans to be buried in Arizona and with no draft picks, I don't know where that team is headed. But if they do buyout KD, its a no brainer to sign him then. But at the amount he's getting now, then I don't see a fit money-wise.