Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[thelead]

Yeah, Memphis doesn’t have it

Pissed me off nearly that entire game. They did Jenkins a favor.

[pepe1991]

Western conference playoffs will be nuts.

Lakers- Warriors, Nuggets- Clippers, Rockets - Wolves as potential first round

On East you can press forward until CF

[Max Power]

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I’m also with you, but the problem is the backlash the franchise will get from trading him. But I really like the team’s dynamic when only one of our big two is playing. I still think they don’t fit that well (at the moment at least).

Yeah, you’re right about that, and let me clarify what I mean. I don’t necessarily think we trade him, just see what his value is league wide. I don’t think the guy is inherently bad. But I have read some less than flattering things about him. I know we all remember his f bomb rant on live tv last year too. He lost points with me that night.

[Skybox]

I can’t wait to hear the Press Conference…”well, Paolo has kind of a potty mouth and that’s frowned upon here”

[Skybox]

Jamal Murray's under contract for the next four years at...

$46,394,100
$50,105,628
$53,817,156
$57,528,684

He's very good. But trading a 24 year old making 30M AAV for a 28 year old making 52M AAV... I dunno!

Yeah…that’s Lavine/Beal money combined with some significant injuries. He’s got Simons’ skillset with a heavy measure of dawg mixed in…I’ve always thought Murray was THE epitome of the kind of “semi PG” that could thrive with Paolo & Franz (like Jokic) but that is a massive commitment.

I guess the quest is to find the bargain or at least not yet completely formed version of Murray…that’s always led to the same guys:
Simons
Sexton
Coby White
Herro
McCain
Reaves
Monk
CJ McCollum
Poole
Ty Jerome?
Maybe it’s Suggs?
Maybe it’s Reed Sheperd?
Who else?

[OrlandoDream]

Coby White dream has passed. With the numbers he is putting up, BUlls likely to extend him rather then trade him. His value has also increased past what Weltman was willing to offer. He would have been a perfect fit but we missed our chance not dealing for him in the deadline in fear of "getting squeezed."

[Knightro]

Coby White dream has passed. With the numbers he is putting up, BUlls likely to extend him rather then trade him. His value has also increased past what Weltman was willing to offer. He would have been a perfect fit but we missed our chance not dealing for him in the deadline in fear of "getting squeezed."

Considering no one traded for him, it's hard to say Weltman alone dropped the ball here.

By all accounts the Bulls were asking for more than the entire league felt White was worth two months ago.

[RichCollab]

Coby White dream has passed. With the numbers he is putting up, BUlls likely to extend him rather then trade him. His value has also increased past what Weltman was willing to offer. He would have been a perfect fit but we missed our chance not dealing for him in the deadline in fear of "getting squeezed."

Considering no one traded for him, it's hard to say Weltman alone dropped the ball here.

By all accounts the Bulls were asking for more than the entire league felt White was worth two months ago.

I’m not sure he was even on the market.

Bulls still may move on from White and or Giddy. They have to decide what framework they are going to use to build the next version of the team.

I believe in the past they have avoided the nuclear option.

[Skybox]

Trade #1:
ORL sends Cole Anthony, Wendell Carter, Jett Howard & #23 to DAL for Daniel Gafford & Klay Thompson
Why for DAL...Cole runs point until Kyrie gets back, Cole and Jett are only guaranteed one more year, so they either pitch in quick or provide flexibility in trade market or added cap space next summer. WCJ is only 25yo and fits very well with Lively or AD, so he makes a more viable first big off the bench or even starting. DAL ends up with #14 and #23 for further win-now trades or some acknowledgment that next season is about getting healthy and regrouping. DAL, in a transition year, gives Jett every opportunity to replace Klay's more expensive, older, slower spot in the rotation as DAL looks forward.

Trade #2:
ORL sends: KCP, TdS, Gary Harris, ORL 26 frp (top 5)
BOS sends: Derrick White, Sam Hauser
Why for BOS... cut considerable salary over years as White and Hauser have 3 more years each with considerable guaranteed money. KCP is a very formidable backcourt mate with Jrue and TdS and Harris can provide inexpensive versatility and 2-way play. Harris expires at end of season. A legit frp to BOS for next summer's strong draft is further incentive for them to take the leap and get their finances under control. BOS' governor made it pretty clear that NOBODY wants to stay in the 2nd Apron indefinitely...this trade provides financial breathing room next season without taking apart the team. As long as Jrue still has some PG play in him (along with Pritchard), BOS's shooting and defense actually get deeper with this trade.

-ORL selects Thomas Sorber from Georgetown to eventually replace Isaac as a super-long versatile defender at multiple positions.

Gafford, Goga, Sorber, Moe
Paolo, Isaac, Sorber
Franz, Hauser, Klay
Suggs, Klay, Hauser
White, AB, CoJo

*ORL hopes that DWhite is ready for an All-Star breakout with a clear Lead Guard role in ORL. Depending on Sorber's progress and Moe's health, look to move off Isaac and/or Goga at TD, even if just for expirings and, hopefully, some draft equity. Hauser and Klay make Caleb extraneous too...maybe keep him in G-League or look to attach him. Hate to give up young, inexpensive contributor TdS...but that's BOS' only incentive to make change at all. ORL would then have to seriously look at moving off unneeded vets to get under apron. Moe Wagner's deal might need to be declined and re-signed for more years and something more like Goga money - $9m x 3yr? Possibly move Klay too.

[VFX]

Trade #1:
ORL sends Cole Anthony, Wendell Carter, Jett Howard & #23 to DAL for Daniel Gafford & Klay Thompson
Why for DAL...Cole runs point until Kyrie gets back, Cole and Jett are only guaranteed one more year, so they either pitch in quick or provide flexibility in trade market or added cap space next summer. WCJ is only 25yo and fits very well with Lively or AD, so he makes a more viable first big off the bench or even starting. DAL ends up with #14 and #23 for further win-now trades or some acknowledgment that next season is about getting healthy and regrouping. DAL, in a transition year, gives Jett every opportunity to replace Klay's more expensive, older, slower spot in the rotation as DAL looks forward.

Trade #2:
ORL sends: KCP, TdS, Gary Harris, ORL 26 frp (top 5)
BOS sends: Derrick White, Sam Hauser
Why for BOS... cut considerable salary over years as White and Hauser have 3 more years each with considerable guaranteed money. KCP is a very formidable backcourt mate with Jrue and TdS and Harris can provide inexpensive versatility and 2-way play. Harris expires at end of season. A legit frp to BOS for next summer's strong draft is further incentive for them to take the leap and get their finances under control. BOS' governor made it pretty clear that NOBODY wants to stay in the 2nd Apron indefinitely...this trade provides financial breathing room next season without taking apart the team. As long as Jrue still has some PG play in him (along with Pritchard), BOS's shooting and defense actually get deeper with this trade.

-ORL selects Thomas Sorber from Georgetown to eventually replace Isaac as a super-long versatile defender at multiple positions.

Gafford, Goga, Sorber, Moe
Paolo, Isaac, Sorber
Franz, Hauser, Klay
Suggs, Klay, Hauser
White, AB, CoJo

*ORL hopes that DWhite is ready for an All-Star breakout with a clear Lead Guard role in ORL. Depending on Sorber's progress and Moe's health, look to move off Isaac and/or Goga at TD, even if just for expirings and, hopefully, some draft equity. Hauser and Klay make Caleb extraneous too...maybe keep him in G-League or look to attach him. Hate to give up young, inexpensive contributor TdS...but that's BOS' only incentive to make change at all. ORL would then have to seriously look at moving off unneeded vets to get under apron. Moe Wagner's deal might need to be declined and re-signed for more years and something more like Goga money - $9m x 3yr? Possibly move Klay too.

#1 Disgusting.

#2 Boston laughs and hangs up the phone.

Klay is cooked. His numbers are dropping off significantly each season now. You are trading what little tradeable value this roster has for a guy that should retire and an OK Center that could be found elsewhere. He also has one year left on his contract. No thanks.

White is better than KCP. Boston gets worse doing this as they are contending for championships now. “Eventually replace Isaac” yeah in what 4 years when he’s expiring? lol

[pepe1991]

Derrick White is better player than whole bunch of people who made all star game in past 5-6 years.

[Skybox]

Trade #1:
ORL sends Cole Anthony, Wendell Carter, Jett Howard & #23 to DAL for Daniel Gafford & Klay Thompson
Why for DAL...Cole runs point until Kyrie gets back, Cole and Jett are only guaranteed one more year, so they either pitch in quick or provide flexibility in trade market or added cap space next summer. WCJ is only 25yo and fits very well with Lively or AD, so he makes a more viable first big off the bench or even starting. DAL ends up with #14 and #23 for further win-now trades or some acknowledgment that next season is about getting healthy and regrouping. DAL, in a transition year, gives Jett every opportunity to replace Klay's more expensive, older, slower spot in the rotation as DAL looks forward.

Trade #2:
ORL sends: KCP, TdS, Gary Harris, ORL 26 frp (top 5)
BOS sends: Derrick White, Sam Hauser
Why for BOS... cut considerable salary over years as White and Hauser have 3 more years each with considerable guaranteed money. KCP is a very formidable backcourt mate with Jrue and TdS and Harris can provide inexpensive versatility and 2-way play. Harris expires at end of season. A legit frp to BOS for next summer's strong draft is further incentive for them to take the leap and get their finances under control. BOS' governor made it pretty clear that NOBODY wants to stay in the 2nd Apron indefinitely...this trade provides financial breathing room next season without taking apart the team. As long as Jrue still has some PG play in him (along with Pritchard), BOS's shooting and defense actually get deeper with this trade.

-ORL selects Thomas Sorber from Georgetown to eventually replace Isaac as a super-long versatile defender at multiple positions.

Gafford, Goga, Sorber, Moe
Paolo, Isaac, Sorber
Franz, Hauser, Klay
Suggs, Klay, Hauser
White, AB, CoJo

*ORL hopes that DWhite is ready for an All-Star breakout with a clear Lead Guard role in ORL. Depending on Sorber's progress and Moe's health, look to move off Isaac and/or Goga at TD, even if just for expirings and, hopefully, some draft equity. Hauser and Klay make Caleb extraneous too...maybe keep him in G-League or look to attach him. Hate to give up young, inexpensive contributor TdS...but that's BOS' only incentive to make change at all. ORL would then have to seriously look at moving off unneeded vets to get under apron. Moe Wagner's deal might need to be declined and re-signed for more years and something more like Goga money - $9m x 3yr? Possibly move Klay too.

#1 Disgusting.

#2 Boston laughs and hangs up the phone.

Klay is cooked. His numbers are dropping off significantly each season now. You are trading what little tradeable value this roster has for a guy that should retire and an OK Center that could be found elsewhere. He also has one year left on his contract. No thanks.

White is better than KCP. Boston gets worse doing this as they are contending for championships now. “Eventually replace Isaac” yeah in what 4 years when he’s expiring? lol

Pleasant as always lol lol lol

I don't really want Klay...I try to propose trades that the other team might find palatable. I'm sure, in your usual positive vein, you're not too blind to see that Cole, WCJ, and Jett are net neutral at best by themselves, due to Weltman's stupid extensions and poor drafting...WCJ could actually be good elsewhere, if he can stay healthy and if the other team isn't as concerned about his extension kicking in a couple of years - right when Klay is expiring...you know Klay makes only a 2.5m more than Cole, right? and about the same amount less than WCJ will, right? Would you say that "cooked" Klay couldn't match one of their degrees of impact? Gimpy Klay played more games and more minutes per game than either of our ripe young studs - I think he's more valuable than both even if just as a threat to bomb 10 3's in a half. He's still struggling along with a meager 39.1% from 3. Gafford is far better than any of our Centers...and I'd love to see what kind of defense Mose could program with a legit rim protector anchoring. The pick is the only sacrifice in the trade and it's #23 lolol

Many sources are expecting BOS to make a significant move to get below the 2nd Apron...if not White, who do you think it could be? (Jrue's age and KP's injury history make them really dicey to trade for as both are very well paid). We've started to see what KCP can do with a competent PG on the floor...maybe he's not "cooked" either...but he's still a bad fit here next to Suggs...but not so bad next to Jrue...When Hauser got that big raise, he may have been signing his pass out of BOS with their blessing...he's now an overpaid one-tool player and BOS will fill his spot with Scheierman for a fraction of the salary...that's what championship teams do...they keep adjusting and moving forward, keeping larger goals in mind and not clinging to marginal guys...we absorb a lot of salary for a lot of improvement - follow ups would be needed to manage cap better - Isaac, Caleb, Goga, maybe Moe all become extraneous guys eating more cap than we should be feeding them with better options in house.

[VFX]

Trade #1:
ORL sends Cole Anthony, Wendell Carter, Jett Howard & #23 to DAL for Daniel Gafford & Klay Thompson
Why for DAL...Cole runs point until Kyrie gets back, Cole and Jett are only guaranteed one more year, so they either pitch in quick or provide flexibility in trade market or added cap space next summer. WCJ is only 25yo and fits very well with Lively or AD, so he makes a more viable first big off the bench or even starting. DAL ends up with #14 and #23 for further win-now trades or some acknowledgment that next season is about getting healthy and regrouping. DAL, in a transition year, gives Jett every opportunity to replace Klay's more expensive, older, slower spot in the rotation as DAL looks forward.

Trade #2:
ORL sends: KCP, TdS, Gary Harris, ORL 26 frp (top 5)
BOS sends: Derrick White, Sam Hauser
Why for BOS... cut considerable salary over years as White and Hauser have 3 more years each with considerable guaranteed money. KCP is a very formidable backcourt mate with Jrue and TdS and Harris can provide inexpensive versatility and 2-way play. Harris expires at end of season. A legit frp to BOS for next summer's strong draft is further incentive for them to take the leap and get their finances under control. BOS' governor made it pretty clear that NOBODY wants to stay in the 2nd Apron indefinitely...this trade provides financial breathing room next season without taking apart the team. As long as Jrue still has some PG play in him (along with Pritchard), BOS's shooting and defense actually get deeper with this trade.

-ORL selects Thomas Sorber from Georgetown to eventually replace Isaac as a super-long versatile defender at multiple positions.

Gafford, Goga, Sorber, Moe
Paolo, Isaac, Sorber
Franz, Hauser, Klay
Suggs, Klay, Hauser
White, AB, CoJo

*ORL hopes that DWhite is ready for an All-Star breakout with a clear Lead Guard role in ORL. Depending on Sorber's progress and Moe's health, look to move off Isaac and/or Goga at TD, even if just for expirings and, hopefully, some draft equity. Hauser and Klay make Caleb extraneous too...maybe keep him in G-League or look to attach him. Hate to give up young, inexpensive contributor TdS...but that's BOS' only incentive to make change at all. ORL would then have to seriously look at moving off unneeded vets to get under apron. Moe Wagner's deal might need to be declined and re-signed for more years and something more like Goga money - $9m x 3yr? Possibly move Klay too.

#1 Disgusting.

#2 Boston laughs and hangs up the phone.

Klay is cooked. His numbers are dropping off significantly each season now. You are trading what little tradeable value this roster has for a guy that should retire and an OK Center that could be found elsewhere. He also has one year left on his contract. No thanks.

White is better than KCP. Boston gets worse doing this as they are contending for championships now. “Eventually replace Isaac” yeah in what 4 years when he’s expiring? lol

Pleasant as always lol lol lol

I don't really want Klay...I try to propose trades that the other team might find palatable. I'm sure, in your usual positive vein, you're not too blind to see that Cole, WCJ, and Jett are net neutral at best by themselves, due to Weltman's stupid extensions and poor drafting...WCJ could actually be good elsewhere, if he can stay healthy and if the other team isn't as concerned about his extension kicking in a couple of years - right when Klay is expiring...you know Klay makes only a 2.5m more than Cole, right? and about the same amount less than WCJ will, right? Would you say that "cooked" Klay couldn't match one of their degrees of impact? Gimpy Klay played more games and more minutes per game than either of our ripe young studs - I think he's more valuable than both even if just as a threat to bomb 10 3's in a half. He's still struggling along with a meager 39.1% from 3. Gafford is far better than any of our Centers...and I'd love to see what kind of defense Mose could program with a legit rim protector anchoring. The pick is the only sacrifice in the trade and it's #23 lolol

Many sources are expecting BOS to make a significant move to get below the 2nd Apron...if not White, who do you think it could be? (Jrue's age and KP's injury history make them really dicey to trade for as both are very well paid). We've started to see what KCP can do with a competent PG on the floor...maybe he's not "cooked" either...but he's still a bad fit here next to Suggs...but not so bad next to Jrue...When Hauser got that big raise, he may have been signing his pass out of BOS with their blessing...he's now an overpaid one-tool player and BOS will fill his spot with Scheierman for a fraction of the salary...that's what championship teams do...they keep adjusting and moving forward, keeping larger goals in mind and not clinging to marginal guys...we absorb a lot of salary for a lot of improvement - follow ups would be needed to manage cap better - Isaac, Caleb, Goga, maybe Moe all become extraneous guys eating more cap than we should be feeding them with better options in house.

First, if we are being realistic, and Boston moves anyone, it’s going to be Jrue over White. Why? He’s more expensive and they have Pritchard. White also just compliments their core better and is what like 3 years younger? Thats not enough to make the case that it’s dicey to move him. White is the best player in these trades and the value isn’t really close.

Klay solves nothing. At the expense of a backup nobody likes and Carter you are shuffling pieces that don’t fit for other pieces that don’t fit. Jalen Suggs is a shooting guard for the millionth time. He’s the starting shooting guard on this team and was paid as such. White isn’t really a point guard. He’s a more developed, older, Jalen Suggs.

I’d sooner move KCP before any of this for a point guard. Gafford isn’t good enough to warrant spending all tradeable assets toward Center. Is he a good player? Yes. Is Center Orlando’s biggest problem? No. It’s likelier you find a Center in this draft before squandering assets.

Goga and Mo are not “extraneous”, the others sure. For as bad as Mo is on defense this roster lacks reliable scoring output on the bench. Does Orlando have that luxury to move him with that in mind? He isn’t movable for other reasons and his contract isn’t insane. Same with Goga to an extent. Orlando doesn’t need 3 starting Centers. You are moving 1 starting Center + trash for the same problem + adding ANOTHER Center that will never play until Isaac expires.

Your first main obstacle with any of these page long trades is that Jeff Weltman is in the front office. Jeff Weltman doesn’t make trades.

[MasterGMer]

If Magic trades Jalen Suggs, i want to trade for a star in return. You really think Boston is parting ways with Derrick White? He could be an intriguing get. But at SG spot, we have Jalen Suggs and KCP. Do we need him?

Coby White is done. He won't be traded.

I have long been on the Giannis train. But we will see from this playoff and I doubt he is done with Milwaukee. And also I do think we have the assets to get him. But it is going to be super expensive.

I also like KD. But it is a long shot also.

And at the end of all that, I doubt Jeff Weltman is making this kinda blockbuster trade. It is not in him

[drsd]

Trade #1:
ORL sends Cole Anthony, Wendell Carter, Jett Howard & #23 to DAL for Daniel Gafford & Klay Thompson
Why for DAL...Cole runs point until Kyrie gets back, Cole and Jett are only guaranteed one more year, so they either pitch in quick or provide flexibility in trade market or added cap space next summer. WCJ is only 25yo and fits very well with Lively or AD, so he makes a more viable first big off the bench or even starting. DAL ends up with #14 and #23 for further win-now trades or some acknowledgment that next season is about getting healthy and regrouping. DAL, in a transition year, gives Jett every opportunity to replace Klay's more expensive, older, slower spot in the rotation as DAL looks forward.

Trade #2:
ORL sends: KCP, TdS, Gary Harris, ORL 26 frp (top 5)
BOS sends: Derrick White, Sam Hauser
Why for BOS... cut considerable salary over years as White and Hauser have 3 more years each with considerable guaranteed money. KCP is a very formidable backcourt mate with Jrue and TdS and Harris can provide inexpensive versatility and 2-way play. Harris expires at end of season. A legit frp to BOS for next summer's strong draft is further incentive for them to take the leap and get their finances under control. BOS' governor made it pretty clear that NOBODY wants to stay in the 2nd Apron indefinitely...this trade provides financial breathing room next season without taking apart the team. As long as Jrue still has some PG play in him (along with Pritchard), BOS's shooting and defense actually get deeper with this trade.

-ORL selects Thomas Sorber from Georgetown to eventually replace Isaac as a super-long versatile defender at multiple positions.

Gafford, Goga, Sorber, Moe
Paolo, Isaac, Sorber
Franz, Hauser, Klay
Suggs, Klay, Hauser
White, AB, CoJo

*ORL hopes that DWhite is ready for an All-Star breakout with a clear Lead Guard role in ORL. Depending on Sorber's progress and Moe's health, look to move off Isaac and/or Goga at TD, even if just for expirings and, hopefully, some draft equity. Hauser and Klay make Caleb extraneous too...maybe keep him in G-League or look to attach him. Hate to give up young, inexpensive contributor TdS...but that's BOS' only incentive to make change at all. ORL would then have to seriously look at moving off unneeded vets to get under apron. Moe Wagner's deal might need to be declined and re-signed for more years and something more like Goga money - $9m x 3yr? Possibly move Klay too.

And-1

Regardless of the specifics of these trades: both highlight that consolidation trades are ready and available. Orlando needs a guard, a back-up combo wing, and front-court depth. You ticked every box. I don't necessarily "agree" with the trades per se, but if WePark pulls the trigger on this, I would be a happy fan.

[Skybox]

Malone advocated for moving Braun (ostensibly because he loves tough proven vets-specifically KCP)…let’s see where he lands

I really like KCP…but I think it’s got to be his $22m or Suggs $35m (descending deal but…) going out to fix our roster. WCJ too- before his extension hits, but maybe not urgently.

I don’t think it’ll be Suggs…but that also greatly limits the return. Suggs is close to untouchable but everything must be considered. There ARE moves that make sense that could be available.

KCP would appeal to contenders, but they won’t give back anything win-now (most likely). Suggs could be sold as win-now, but also huge upside. It all depends on what you think future Suggs looks like…is he :
- KCP type 3&D (or even worse 3pt%) with constant injuries?
- Tyrese Maxey 3-level scorer with annual All-Defense first team and team leader & heartbeat (having contagious effect on teammates’ defense)
-massive overpay for smaller Isaac or best deal in NBA for perennial All-Star or close?

[Skybox]

#1 Disgusting.

#2 Boston laughs and hangs up the phone.

Klay is cooked. His numbers are dropping off significantly each season now. You are trading what little tradeable value this roster has for a guy that should retire and an OK Center that could be found elsewhere. He also has one year left on his contract. No thanks.

White is better than KCP. Boston gets worse doing this as they are contending for championships now. “Eventually replace Isaac” yeah in what 4 years when he’s expiring? lol

Pleasant as always lol lol lol

I don't really want Klay...I try to propose trades that the other team might find palatable. I'm sure, in your usual positive vein, you're not too blind to see that Cole, WCJ, and Jett are net neutral at best by themselves, due to Weltman's stupid extensions and poor drafting...WCJ could actually be good elsewhere, if he can stay healthy and if the other team isn't as concerned about his extension kicking in a couple of years - right when Klay is expiring...you know Klay makes only a 2.5m more than Cole, right? and about the same amount less than WCJ will, right? Would you say that "cooked" Klay couldn't match one of their degrees of impact? Gimpy Klay played more games and more minutes per game than either of our ripe young studs - I think he's more valuable than both even if just as a threat to bomb 10 3's in a half. He's still struggling along with a meager 39.1% from 3. Gafford is far better than any of our Centers...and I'd love to see what kind of defense Mose could program with a legit rim protector anchoring. The pick is the only sacrifice in the trade and it's #23 lolol

Many sources are expecting BOS to make a significant move to get below the 2nd Apron...if not White, who do you think it could be? (Jrue's age and KP's injury history make them really dicey to trade for as both are very well paid). We've started to see what KCP can do with a competent PG on the floor...maybe he's not "cooked" either...but he's still a bad fit here next to Suggs...but not so bad next to Jrue...When Hauser got that big raise, he may have been signing his pass out of BOS with their blessing...he's now an overpaid one-tool player and BOS will fill his spot with Scheierman for a fraction of the salary...that's what championship teams do...they keep adjusting and moving forward, keeping larger goals in mind and not clinging to marginal guys...we absorb a lot of salary for a lot of improvement - follow ups would be needed to manage cap better - Isaac, Caleb, Goga, maybe Moe all become extraneous guys eating more cap than we should be feeding them with better options in house.

First, if we are being realistic, and Boston moves anyone, it’s going to be Jrue over White. Why? He’s more expensive and they have Pritchard. White also just compliments their core better and is what like 3 years younger? Thats not enough to make the case that it’s dicey to move him. White is the best player in these trades and the value isn’t really close.
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You make a great case why BOS will find it very difficult to get any meaningful return for Jrue, a high-mileage 34yo owed $103m over the next 3 years. They’re not looking to rebuild or fall out of contention, so they’re better off riding Jrue and KP into the ground and hope they stay upright. Pritchard is a great bench spark, but he’s not taking a leading role any more than Hauser is replacing Jaylen Brown. White is the best balance of great trade value vs impact. Jrue is just as good as White on many nights but holds a fraction of the trade value…White IS the best player in the trade (Thank you, Capt Obvious)…BOS is facing massive apron penalties and their own Governor intimated that teams just won’t stay in that situation for very long- it’s just too punitive…Stephens is a great GM and will do what he can to keep it on track.

[tiderulz]

Malone advocated for moving Braun (ostensibly because he loves tough proven vets-specifically KCP)…let’s see where he lands

I really like KCP…but I think it’s got to be his $22m or Suggs $35m (descending deal but…) going out to fix our roster. WCJ too- before his extension hits, but maybe not urgently.

I don’t think it’ll be Suggs…but that also greatly limits the return. Suggs is close to untouchable but everything must be considered. There ARE moves that make sense that could be available.

KCP would appeal to contenders, but they won’t give back anything win-now (most likely). Suggs could be sold as win-now, but also huge upside. It all depends on what you think future Suggs looks like…is he :
- KCP type 3&D (or even worse 3pt%) with constant injuries?
- Tyrese Maxey 3-level scorer with annual All-Defense first team and team leader & heartbeat (having contagious effect on teammates’ defense)
-massive overpay for smaller Isaac or best deal in NBA for perennial All-Star or close?

i always thought Suggs was a younger, possibly better version of KCP.

[RichCollab]

Malone advocated for moving Braun (ostensibly because he loves tough proven vets-specifically KCP)…let’s see where he lands

I really like KCP…but I think it’s got to be his $22m or Suggs $35m (descending deal but…) going out to fix our roster. WCJ too- before his extension hits, but maybe not urgently.

I don’t think it’ll be Suggs…but that also greatly limits the return. Suggs is close to untouchable but everything must be considered. There ARE moves that make sense that could be available.

KCP would appeal to contenders, but they won’t give back anything win-now (most likely). Suggs could be sold as win-now, but also huge upside. It all depends on what you think future Suggs looks like…is he :
- KCP type 3&D (or even worse 3pt%) with constant injuries?
- Tyrese Maxey 3-level scorer with annual All-Defense first team and team leader & heartbeat (having contagious effect on teammates’ defense)
-massive overpay for smaller Isaac or best deal in NBA for perennial All-Star or close?

i always thought Suggs was a younger, possibly better version of KCP.

I’m keeping both and a Suggs lifer. But one area that Suggs comes up short is availability. That’s been a hallmark of KCP.

[Skybox]

Malone advocated for moving Braun (ostensibly because he loves tough proven vets-specifically KCP)…let’s see where he lands

I really like KCP…but I think it’s got to be his $22m or Suggs $35m (descending deal but…) going out to fix our roster. WCJ too- before his extension hits, but maybe not urgently.

I don’t think it’ll be Suggs…but that also greatly limits the return. Suggs is close to untouchable but everything must be considered. There ARE moves that make sense that could be available.

KCP would appeal to contenders, but they won’t give back anything win-now (most likely). Suggs could be sold as win-now, but also huge upside. It all depends on what you think future Suggs looks like…is he :
- KCP type 3&D (or even worse 3pt%) with constant injuries?
- Tyrese Maxey 3-level scorer with annual All-Defense first team and team leader & heartbeat (having contagious effect on teammates’ defense)
-massive overpay for smaller Isaac or best deal in NBA for perennial All-Star or close?

i always thought Suggs was a younger, possibly better version of KCP.

I’m keeping both and a Suggs lifer. But one area that Suggs comes up short is availability. That’s been a hallmark of KCP.

I like them both too...but that'll be more than a third of the cap for two virtually identical contributors that should both be SGs.