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No coach is safe with Durant on their team.
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So thankful I am not a fan of the Suns. Ishbia is a basketball terrorist.
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PintSizedBox10 wrote:No coach is safe with Durant on their team.
The irony of course being that they're 100% moving KD this offseason anyways. Booker isn't getting nearly enough flak here though. He hasn't gotten along with a coach since Earl Watson more than 7-years ago. He deserves the coach killer label as much as anybody.
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MikeIsGood wrote:So thankful I am not a fan of the Suns. Ishbia is a basketball terrorist.
He did one thing right, he gave access to Suns basketball to everyone in Arizona for free.
Better than the Bucks making you pay for an app that barely works.
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bradley beal made just shy of 1m a game this season.
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I take no joy in it, & Bud's a decent coach who should get another chance to install his system w/ a less dysfunctional roster. But I have to bring up how some were asserting early in the season we messed up badly firing Bud because he started 8-1 w/ a barely above water pt differential.
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Beasley hits 7 3's yesterday to take the lead by 56 over Ant. Ant jacks up 18 3's, makes 7, to come out on top for most made 3's. Beasley had a higher average though 41.6% to 39.5%
I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
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Bernman wrote:I take no joy in it, & Bud's a decent coach who should get another chance to install his system w/ a less dysfunctional roster. But I have to bring up how some were asserting early in the season we messed up badly firing Bud because he started 8-1 w/ a barely above water pt differential.
Health and Ryan Dunn not being ass from three were doing a lot for them early on. Beal also seems pretty washed but looked fairly strong to start the season.
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Love Bud. Wish he were still our coach. But don’t feel sorry for him. He knew he was going into the snake pit. And he got paid handsomely to do it.
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Prez wrote:I feel so bad for Bud. He has his warts as a coach but he deserves better than this.
They were a top 10 defense last year. He coached terribly. If they practiced as rarely as the Bucks did at the end, it wasn't like this cut into his free time much
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FrieAaron wrote:Bernman wrote:I take no joy in it, & Bud's a decent coach who should get another chance to install his system w/ a less dysfunctional roster. But I have to bring up how some were asserting early in the season we messed up badly firing Bud because he started 8-1 w/ a barely above water pt differential.
Health and Ryan Dunn not being ass from three were doing a lot for them early on. Beal also seems pretty washed but looked fairly strong to start the season.
Yea, you said how they were a house of cards, beyond just winning tight games. Good luck making Dunn shooting 3's sustainable. He finished at 31%. Probably was under 30 after that hot start. Still surprising for him to even eclipse 30. All's right in the draft world he wasn't reliable in the end.
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We're all playing checkers, and Bud is playing chess. What a retirement plan -- checks from two or three teams, and a standing 9:40 tee time every day.
"The Bucks in six always. That's for the culture." -- B. Jennings
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Bud never had a chance there. They had zero bench and 3 ball dominate ego guys. They weren't going to buy into his system and I honestly don't think he really gave a ****.
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A little more candidly about Griffin:
We’d kill for Horst to have his drafting record. Here’s Griffin’s non lottery hits in New Orleans:
2019:
#17: NAW
2021:
#17: Trey Murphy
#25: Herb Jones
2024:
#21: Yves Missi
And that’s before considering Zion and Dyson Daniels in the lottery.
I also think we could have a lot of sympathy for having to deal with the LeBron empire and the difficult position it puts you in.
But I think quotes like:
“The reason is LeBron is getting all the credit and none of the blame. And that’s not fun for people”
could just as easily be a kid pouting because he had to share his toy.
And then there’s stuff like this:
“I give Alvin all the answers to the test, and he still fails.“
Or the reports that he and Alvin almost came to blows.
I don’t particularly want a GM with an ego, and that’s very much what griffin strikes me as. I’d be very worried he’d trade Giannis to be able to create his team moreso than deal with another star who has influence over the organization.
If he could work well with Giannis, it’s fine, but I’d be very worried at the outset. Overall, he’s different than hinkie, because he has a better eye for talent, but I’m worried he’s a douche who craves credit and would want to do things his way to get more of it.
We’d kill for Horst to have his drafting record. Here’s Griffin’s non lottery hits in New Orleans:
2019:
#17: NAW
2021:
#17: Trey Murphy
#25: Herb Jones
2024:
#21: Yves Missi
And that’s before considering Zion and Dyson Daniels in the lottery.
I also think we could have a lot of sympathy for having to deal with the LeBron empire and the difficult position it puts you in.
But I think quotes like:
“The reason is LeBron is getting all the credit and none of the blame. And that’s not fun for people”
could just as easily be a kid pouting because he had to share his toy.
And then there’s stuff like this:
“I give Alvin all the answers to the test, and he still fails.“
Or the reports that he and Alvin almost came to blows.
I don’t particularly want a GM with an ego, and that’s very much what griffin strikes me as. I’d be very worried he’d trade Giannis to be able to create his team moreso than deal with another star who has influence over the organization.
If he could work well with Giannis, it’s fine, but I’d be very worried at the outset. Overall, he’s different than hinkie, because he has a better eye for talent, but I’m worried he’s a douche who craves credit and would want to do things his way to get more of it.
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While these aren’t exactly traits at the top of the list when trying to find someone to lead a basketball organization, I do think Horst deserves credit for having basically no ego, propping up Giannis any moment he can, and I think being a fairly integral part of what makes the bucks “culture” a good one.
He’s a good dude.
He’s a good dude.
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ShootingtheJ wrote:Prez wrote:I feel so bad for Bud. He has his warts as a coach but he deserves better than this.
They were a top 10 defense last year. He coached terribly. If they practiced as rarely as the Bucks did at the end, it wasn't like this cut into his free time much
Bud wasn’t allowed to coach. The players gave zero effort. Booker looked like Washington Bradley Beal this season. It’s going to be a sham if he makes an All NBA team.
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I can't feel sorry for someone who is going to get another $40M to sit at home. There are worse situations in life.
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DanoMac wrote:
Big market, title winner Mike Budenholzer, after cutting his teeth in the cutthroat world of Milwaukee Bucks basketball, thought his **** didn't stink in little old quaint Phoenix and rubbed the organization the wrong way.
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DanoMac wrote:
That Gambo stuff is pretty shocking to me.
I wonder if we never heard anything like that here, because we just had a bunch of subservient dudes who did whatever they were asked, and literally never challenged him.
For a whole org to feel like Bud had a massive ego and no one liked to work with him would be so much more than just KD and Booker being malcontents. Once again, pretty shocking to me.