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2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1061 » by Duffman100 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:46 pm

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Duffman100 wrote:I can see the hype around Carter Bryant. Would be nice to add someone with that effortless athleticism.

Put your opinions on the record and post a big board.


lol why?

I also already did what I thought the top 10 would be so far. You're welcome to go back and find it. I'm often wrong though.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1062 » by Psubs » Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:38 pm

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I'd draft him. Maybe trade down a few spots. :nod:



I don't always agree with Pen, but I do on this one. If Kaman and Queen are off the board at 7-8 then trade down with Miami.

Get one of Carter/Noa/CMB at 11
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one of Sorber/Wolf/Condon at 18


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Yeah I wish we had a 13-18 pick as well. He looks good.


Let's trade 7/8 and #39 to Miami that wants Fears or Queen or whoever. :D We get #11 and #18.

#11 Carter Bryant
#18 Rasheer Fleming

Would like to trade Ochai Agbaji for a 2nd round pick to draft Alex Condon or Tomislav Ivisic. :nod: Sergio de Larrea would be a luxury get.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1063 » by MEDIC » Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:57 pm

Reddick was 11th overall pick & had a pretty good career.

Could.Kon be Reddick with better size, defense, ball handling & playmaking?

I guess the comparison mostly comes from Elite Shooting, high IQ, & similar level athleticism.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1064 » by Reeko » Mon Apr 14, 2025 3:18 pm

MEDIC wrote:Reddick was 11th overall pick & had a pretty good career.

Could.Kon be Reddick with better size, defense, ball handling & playmaking?

I guess the comparison mostly comes from Elite Shooting, high IQ, & similar level athleticism.

You're pretty much asking if Kon can be Klay Thompson.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1065 » by MEDIC » Mon Apr 14, 2025 4:54 pm

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MEDIC wrote:Reddick was 11th overall pick & had a pretty good career.

Could.Kon be Reddick with better size, defense, ball handling & playmaking?

I guess the comparison mostly comes from Elite Shooting, high IQ, & similar level athleticism.

You're pretty much asking if Kon can be Klay Thompson.


I think his offensive ceiling could be Klay. Defensively.....not close. That's what makes Klay a special kind of shooter.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1066 » by Tha Cynic » Mon Apr 14, 2025 4:59 pm

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that USG% goes to 30 and Edey is an elite scorer

with gains in FTr and some minute improvements he can do it, just a matter of being allowed to get to work in the post


Is this not the 2025 NBA Draft discussion? Why are we talking about Edey?


As an outside observer, poster was talking about the draft and contributing a ton with stats and their takes. The Edey talk was started by the mid from what I saw. I’ve enjoyed the poster’s stats and his knowledge even though I don’t always agree with some of their views, especially political. Poster did snap but I think mod also kept escalating by not realizing what their comments were doing to poster.

Then mod made a random comment about hyperboles, baited poster into long arguments where poster tried to justify position, with mod putting two line replies, ignoring everything poster wrote and now one of our better posters in this thread is banned for 60 days. I’m left scratching my head here lol, but this thread just lost a good contributor weeks before a big draft.

Basically poster thinks Edey is a very good scorer inside who is being underutilized. He thinks Khaman can be extremely effective on offense without needing to have too many scoring skills because his length will create a ton of gravity. Maybe there was some hyperbole involved but I get the take. Khaman is still very risky but can also be a slam dunk if he becomes what he can be
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1067 » by Duffman100 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:05 pm

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aminiaturebuddha wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Image

that USG% goes to 30 and Edey is an elite scorer

with gains in FTr and some minute improvements he can do it, just a matter of being allowed to get to work in the post


Is this not the 2025 NBA Draft discussion? Why are we talking about Edey?


As an outside observer, poster was talking about the draft and contributing a ton with stats and their takes. I’ve enjoyed his stats and his knowledge even though I don’t always agree with some of their views, especially political. Poster did snap but I think mod also kept escalating by not realizing what their comments were doing to poster.

Then mod made a random comment about hyperboles, baited poster into long arguments where poster tried to justify position with mod putting two line replies ignoring everything poster wrote and now one of our better posters in this thread is banned for 60 days. I’m left scratching my head here lol, but this thread just lost a good contributor weeks before a big draft.

Basically poster thinks Edey is a very good scorer inside who is being underutilized. He thinks Khaman can be extremely effective on offense without needing to have too many scoring skills because his length will create a ton of gravity. Maybe there was some hyperbole involved but I get the take. Khaman is still very risky but can also be a slam dunk if he becomes what he can be


He's not banned for 60 days. I made reference that he had been banned for 60 days in the past because he consistently responds with personal attacks. Poster is still available and I agree he does have positive impacts on the draft thread.

But his hyperbolic takes on players are also open to be called out. Malauch as a generational rim runner (Much like Edey as a Shaq Like scorer) is another BOLD take that is open to be questioned. People have their bold takes questioned all the time without them going over the deep end. It's a forum...
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2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1068 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:18 pm

99th percentile athleticism. I’d consider a Chomche situation for him. Take the kid at the end of the second, or as a UDFA and see if you can mold him into something.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1069 » by Reeko » Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:42 pm

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MEDIC wrote:Reddick was 11th overall pick & had a pretty good career.

Could.Kon be Reddick with better size, defense, ball handling & playmaking?

I guess the comparison mostly comes from Elite Shooting, high IQ, & similar level athleticism.

You're pretty much asking if Kon can be Klay Thompson.


I think his offensive ceiling could be Klay. Defensively.....not close. That's what makes Klay a special kind of shooter.

Chris Mullin then? But even that is a tall order, it means that Kon would have to have multiple 25ppg seasons, 5x All Star, 4x All NBA with a 1st team to boot.

Looking at his highlights (I know this is a very flawed way of assessing a prospect), but he looks like he can really get by his defender off the dribble. Also no way he's 6'7, he looks 6'5 at best.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1070 » by Psubs » Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:56 pm

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MEDIC wrote:
Reeko wrote:You're pretty much asking if Kon can be Klay Thompson.


I think his offensive ceiling could be Klay. Defensively.....not close. That's what makes Klay a special kind of shooter.

Chris Mullin then? But even that is a tall order, it means that Kon would have to have multiple 25ppg seasons, 5x All Star, 4x All NBA with a 1st team to boot.

Looking at his highlights (I know this is a very flawed way of assessing a prospect), but he looks like he can really get by his defender off the dribble. Also no way he's 6'7, he looks 6'5 at best.


Ya, I mentioned the bigger Chris Mullin.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1071 » by PoundTown » Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:07 pm

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I'd draft him. Maybe trade down a few spots. :nod:



I don't always agree with Pen, but I do on this one. If Kaman and Queen are off the board at 7-8 then trade down with Miami.

Get one of Carter/Noa/CMB at 11
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one of Sorber/Wolf/Condon at 18


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HumbleRen wrote:If we go for a wing, I like Rasheer Fleming a lot. Reminds me of OG Anunoby.



Yeah I wish we had a 13-18 pick as well. He looks good.


Let's trade 7/8 and #39 to Miami that wants Fears or Queen or whoever. :D We get #11 and #18.

#11 Carter Bryant
#18 Rasheer Fleming

Would like to trade Ochai Agbaji for a 2nd round pick to draft Alex Condon or Tomislav Ivisic. :nod: Sergio de Larrea would be a luxury get.


Condon may have some physical gifts, but that dude is soft and not physical at all. For him to be successful, I think he needs to develop an above average three point shot and mainly play the 4, not the 5, because he is just too soft for the 5 against the actual big boys of the league. A physical dude like Clingan or Edey would destroy him.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1072 » by Psubs » Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:22 pm

PoundTown wrote:Condon may have some physical gifts, but that dude is soft and not physical at all. For him to be successful, I think he needs to develop an above average three point shot and mainly play the 4, not the 5, because he is just too soft for the 5 against the actual big boys of the league. A physical dude like Clingan or Edey would destroy him.


He's quicker. I guess playing Aussie Football and water polo, needed to maintain fitness over bulk. He's tough though and once drafted would be working much more in the weight room. He really needs Big man camp and lots of games with the 905 to build up confidence. I think the 905 would be great for him as each win wouldn't matter as much as working on offensive moves which he's as raw as Chomche.

Mason Plumlee that passes a bit better that can shoot 3's.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1073 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:47 pm

I feel like he's gonna go anywhere from 18-25

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1074 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:59 pm

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1075 » by DreamTeam09 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:03 pm

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PoundTown wrote:Condon may have some physical gifts, but that dude is soft and not physical at all. For him to be successful, I think he needs to develop an above average three point shot and mainly play the 4, not the 5, because he is just too soft for the 5 against the actual big boys of the league. A physical dude like Clingan or Edey would destroy him.


He's quicker. I guess playing Aussie Football and water polo, needed to maintain fitness over bulk. He's tough though and once drafted would be working much more in the weight room. He really needs Big man camp and lots of games with the 905 to build up confidence. I think the 905 would be great for him as each win wouldn't matter as much as working on offensive moves which he's as raw as Chomche.

Mason Plumlee that passes a bit better that can shoot 3's.


I personally don't think Condon moves well, laterally or up n down, plumelee moved a lot better when he was younger and had bounce & little razzle dazzle / same with Tomas, just doesn't move as well as I like my bigs. Even Jak seems less lumbering than the 2
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1076 » by YogurtProducer » Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:09 pm

Psubs wrote:Would like to trade Ochai Agbaji for a 2nd round pick to draft Alex Condon or Tomislav Ivisic. :nod: Sergio de Larrea would be a luxury get.

We are not trading Ochai for a 2nd rounder :lol:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1077 » by Jcity08 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:12 pm

I think Ive come to terms with the 8th pick, given how those are our greatest odds to land. I think for the sake of not being disappointed at the lottery, I have to make myself comfortable with the 8th pick and drafting probably a good roleplayer and possible allstar but no one that is franchise altering.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1078 » by YogurtProducer » Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:17 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Image

that USG% goes to 30 and Edey is an elite scorer

with gains in FTr and some minute improvements he can do it, just a matter of being allowed to get to work in the post

You cant just... double usage and assume efficiency is going to stay the same.

Jonas Valanciunas was a guy who put up like 26/14 per 36 in 2018-19 for us on 64TS%. But you couldn't just scale him up to 30% usage and assume he would be a dominant scorer still.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1079 » by Reeko » Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:38 pm

Jcity08 wrote:I think Ive come to terms with the 8th pick, given how those are our greatest odds to land. I think for the sake of not being disappointed at the lottery, I have to make myself comfortable with the 8th pick and drafting probably a good roleplayer and possible allstar but no one that is franchise altering.

You should be comfortable with that outcome regardless of where we land, outside of the 1st pick.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1080 » by Jcity08 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:48 pm

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Jcity08 wrote:I think Ive come to terms with the 8th pick, given how those are our greatest odds to land. I think for the sake of not being disappointed at the lottery, I have to make myself comfortable with the 8th pick and drafting probably a good roleplayer and possible allstar but no one that is franchise altering.

You should be comfortable with that outcome regardless of where we land, outside of the 1st pick.


True but I feel a bit more hopeful that a game changer for this franchise might still be on the board if we land a pick in the top 4.

Top 8 is still not bad, but I'm preparing myself for the outcome that we move back instead of forward in the draft. That was my only point.
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