2025 NBA Draft

[RookieStar]

When I think about addressing our biggest needs the idea of leaving this draft with Clayton and McNeeley is very appealing.

a 5star sweet shooting forward that has a catch and shoot ability... he also had a bad rookie year? hmmmm that sounds kinda familiar.....

Hey, Houstan is proving me wrong! I'll take another of his ilk.

Houstan was a 2nd round pick.. and he rightly belongs there. We talking about using a 1st rounder for Mcnely?

[KillMonger]

what's the feeling about Tyreese proctor?

[drsd]

Assuming it is record and not playoff seed that determines draft position, then if the Magic wins a playin game, Orlando will draft 16 unless the Kings or Mavs make the playoffs. That means the absolute lowest the Magic can draft is 17.

So: 16 or 17, unless Orlando is a lottery team (~25%). And the Denver pick is 24. That's now locked.

No college player in these ranges will ever be projected to be more than a rotational player. And certain will be a 3rd stringer at first.
Orlando can get that in the LLE market, so keeping the 16.17 is silly, in my opinion. Just make it part of the package of Anthony-or-Caldwell-Pope and Howard for "better starting guard".

The 24 could be interesting if the Magic take a huge gamble on a Euroleague prospect. Hugo Gonzalez, Joan Beringer, and Noah Penda are all upside players. Yes all three are likely busts in the NBA. But in this range, taking a huge gamble is worth it. Joan Beringer in particular has a lot of physical traits suggesting NBA competence after a couple years in the US.

[drsd]

what's the feeling about Tyreese proctor?

That he could be a multi-year star for the Osceola Magic.

Orlando has two SRPs: 46 and 57. Over cash considerations, drafting Proctor for Osceola is better, I guess. Drafting a Bogoljub Markovic and Mohamed Diawara as draft-and-stash guys makes a LOT more sense though.

Overall: McClung might make an NBA roster next year, and then, Osceola would need a new PG. Heck: as a two-way guy, Proctor as the practice-squad guard: I am fine with that. Proctor becomes a moving practice object for Black to work on his game.

[KillMonger]

Assuming it is record and not playoff seed that determines draft position, then if the Magic wins a playin game, Orlando will draft 16 unless the Kings or Mavs make the playoffs. That means the absolute lowest the Magic can draft is 17.

So: 16 or 17, unless Orlando is a lottery team (~25%). And the Denver pick is 24. That's now locked.

No college player in these ranges will ever be projected to be more than a rotational player. And certain will be a 3rd stringer at first.
Orlando can get that in the LLE market, so keeping the 16.17 is silly, in my opinion. Just make it part of the package of Anthony-or-Caldwell-Pope and Howard for "better starting guard".

The 24 could be interesting if the Magic take a huge gamble on a Euroleague prospect. Hugo Gonzalez, Joan Beringer, and Noah Penda are all upside players. Yes all three are likely busts in the NBA. But in this range, taking a huge gamble is worth it. Joan Beringer in particular has a lot of physical traits suggesting NBA competence after a couple years in the US.

yeah.....weltman doesn't do any of that, not his track record......package up, or down....nope....the 2nd round is the only round he'll entertain anything like trading up/down or out.....now if Anthony parker is making the decisions then that could be different, we'll see i guess....but weltman seems to be pretty straight forward when it comes to the first round

[drsd]

Yeah.....weltman doesn't do any of that, not his track record......package up, or down....nope....the 2nd round is the only round he'll entertain anything like trading up/down or out.....now if Anthony parker is making the decisions then that could be different, we'll see i guess....but weltman seems to be pretty straight forward when it comes to the first round

Weltman did give a vibe that he was close to a mid-season trade. But that he didn't want to be "desperate". Fine: the off-season will soon be here and you can dot T's and cross-I's to get a new guard.

One of these two FRPs needs to be traded.

[Skybox]

what's the feeling about Tyreese proctor?

For a second round no-risk swing...I love him. You don't get to Duke unless you were a dominant player previously...but then you could easily be buried in Flagg or Zion or Paolo's shadow. Proctor could be one of those guys (normally Kentucky guards) that is a much better NBA player than college player. We've got two srps - why not swing away?

6'5 knockdown floor stretcher with PG handles and playmaking potential. Strong body, explosive and likes to dunk on people. Aussie - so he's funny

Maybe a bust...good swing, imo, is second round

[basketballRob]

what's the feeling about Tyreese proctor?

That he could be a multi-year star for the Osceola Magic.

Orlando has two SRPs: 46 and 57. Over cash considerations, drafting Proctor for Osceola is better, I guess. Drafting a Bogoljub Markovic and Mohamed Diawara as draft-and-stash guys makes a LOT more sense though.

Overall: McClung might make an NBA roster next year, and then, Osceola would need a new PG. Heck: as a two-way guy, Proctor as the practice-squad guard: I am fine with that. Proctor becomes a moving practice object for Black to work on his game.

Mcclung is 6'1" with a 6'2" wingspan , which hurts him.

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[RookieStar]

what's the feeling about Tyreese proctor?

I kept raving on him after his rookie year. Was even askinf Bensational about him cuz he is an Aussie.

He regressed his sophomore year and now his junior year looks to be back on track

[VFX]

what's the feeling about Tyreese proctor?

Biggest choker at Duke since RJ Barrett

[Idiosyncratic]

what's the feeling about Tyreese proctor?

Competent off-ball guard that has a chance to hold his own on defense. Not a splashy pick with a ton of creation upside, but I think a guy like that makes sense for us in the 2nd round. Chaz Lanier, Uzan from Houston also fit this mold and maybe available in the 40s. I'm really intrigued by Sergio De Larrea for this kind of off-ball role guard role as well. Getting limited minutes in the Spanish pro league, but shown potential as a shooter with passing chops. Really interesting player with not a ton of tape or numbers to go off of.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

there's just no one right now at 16 that's mock'd that could really come in and help the team. 13-26 is all wings or bigs something we very clearly don't need. I could see them maybe grabbing a C with the thought to either not re sign Moe W or pre cursor to move WCJ and stash in Osceola.

[basketballRob]

I'd like to get Debantsa with the Suns pick next season.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/aj-dybantsa/

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[uraverage]

I'd like to get Debantsa with the Suns pick next season.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/aj-dybantsa/

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This... As much as everyone trashes the front office. This move may be genius.

[fendilim]

I'd like to get Debantsa with the Suns pick next season.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/aj-dybantsa/

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This... As much as everyone trashes the front office. This move may be genius.

indeed. Anthony parker move lol.

Anyway,
How? Doesnt wizards have the first dibs between the wiz, suns and magic first?

[fendilim]

there's just no one right now at 16 that's mock'd that could really come in and help the team. 13-26 is all wings or bigs something we very clearly don't need. I could see them maybe grabbing a C with the thought to either not re sign Moe W or pre cursor to move WCJ and stash in Osceola.

At 16, the Magic should just focus on a rim defender like Yves Missi last year. Someone like that falls around that range.

[drsd]

At 16, the Magic should just draft BPA.

Fixed.

In the draft, position can never be considered. Skills can never be considered. Purpose of the rookie can never be considered. The draft is only about trying to find talent. No more / no less.

The argument of "who is BPA" can be about drafting upside (potential flame out) vs. known bench player (certain rotational player with no upside). Fine.

But the idea that: Orlando needs a big. Or Orlando needs a guard. Or whatever.
That is not the point of the draft.

[Skybox]

there's just no one right now at 16 that's mock'd that could really come in and help the team. 13-26 is all wings or bigs something we very clearly don't need. I could see them maybe grabbing a C with the thought to either not re sign Moe W or pre cursor to move WCJ and stash in Osceola.

At 16, the Magic should just focus on a rim defender like Yves Missi last year. Someone like that falls around that range.

I agree…but I don’t see that guy after Maluach. Murray-Boyles & Sorber are interesting, versatile frontcourt defenders that you’d likely be able to plug in right away for, at least, a limited role…like how AB has been able to at least defend from day 1. Last night notwithstanding, I’m not comfortable relying on WCJ & Isaac anymore.

[yoyojw17]

At 16, the Magic should just draft BPA.

Fixed.

In the draft, position can never be considered. Skills can never be considered. Purpose of the rookie can never be considered. The draft is only about trying to find talent. No more / no less.

The argument of "who is BPA" can be about drafting upside (potential flame out) vs. known bench player (certain rotational player with no upside). Fine.

But the idea that: Orlando needs a big. Or Orlando needs a guard. Or whatever.
That is not the point of the draft.

Yeah.... I'm always if the notion .... BPA ... Especially at that spot. If you have a player a tier above the others still available ... You take em and figure it out afterwards.

[drsd]

Yeah.... I'm always if the notion .... BPA ... Especially at that spot. If you have a player a tier above the others still available ... You take em and figure it out afterwards.

AND: another reason to draft BPA is that draft night, trades frequently happen on draft selections. I am really OK with the Magic drafting for another team!