Luka AD trade thread Part II

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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1901 » by Archx » Tue Apr 15, 2025 7:15 pm

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Swish1906 wrote:Imagine the joker leaving Denver as FA and teaming up with Luka in the summer of 2027. After another disappointing Mavs season with AD playing in 40-50 games

Joker and Luka teaming together is a bad idea, both need defensive talents around them to work.


Isn't that true for any team? You also need offensive talents to make it work... If Kyrie and Luka made it work, why not these two? BBALL IQ would go through the roof.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1902 » by picc » Tue Apr 15, 2025 7:18 pm

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Swish1906 wrote:Imagine the joker leaving Denver as FA and teaming up with Luka in the summer of 2027. After another disappointing Mavs season with AD playing in 40-50 games

Joker and Luka teaming together is a bad idea, both need defensive talents around them to work.


As opposed to Jokic and Jamal “Dikembe” Murray?
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1903 » by Foliohattu » Tue Apr 15, 2025 7:23 pm

Is "defence wins championships" like Nico's "both teams played hard"?
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1904 » by kazyv » Tue Apr 15, 2025 7:29 pm

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The clown show continues. please oh please Mavs, win the play-ins. It would be so nice to see you get swept by OKC, a real defensive team. I bet they'd even demolish this prized "defense" in the process too.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1905 » by G R E Y » Tue Apr 15, 2025 7:55 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Tim Cato was in the meeting, here are some of.the answers he shared.
Read on Twitter
?t=gIC_cBcFGEz8MbJ_XHpacg&s=19

I'm starting to wonder how much of this is a couple of things: one, a kind of mental slip of his being defensive and two, a cover for his really needing to be the man on the team and not having to cater to Luka. He started chipping away at Luka support long before this trade, long before Luka shouldered the team to the finals. It's such a weird unspoken dynamic bubbling just beneath the surface of running out of town the one guy who held more power than the GM.

And for all the Cuban posturing about this trade, he was the one who hired Harrison with what GM qualifications?
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1906 » by Swish1906 » Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:13 pm

TinmanZBoy wrote:
Swish1906 wrote:Imagine the joker leaving Denver as FA and teaming up with Luka in the summer of 2027. After another disappointing Mavs season with AD playing in 40-50 games

Joker and Luka teaming together is a bad idea, both need defensive talents around them to work.


Oh I remember your account for some bad takes…now I at least know it’s Nico’s burner account.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1907 » by Swish1906 » Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:15 pm

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Mavrelous wrote:Tim Cato was in the meeting, here are some of.the answers he shared.
Read on Twitter
?t=gIC_cBcFGEz8MbJ_XHpacg&s=19

I'm starting to wonder how much of this is a couple of things: one, a kind of mental slip of his being defensive and two, a cover for his really needing to be the man on the team and not having to cater to Luka. He started chipping away at Luka support long before this trade, long before Luka shouldered the team to the finals. It's such a weird unspoken dynamic bubbling just beneath the surface of running out of town the one guy who held more power than the GM.

And for all the Cuban posturing about this trade, he was the one who hired Harrison with what GM qualifications?


And Nico actually thought he could „win“ this battle. When the franchise and their fans are all about loyalty.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1908 » by Special_Puppy » Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:51 pm

Read on Twitter
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1909 » by sp6r=underrated » Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:57 pm

Special_Puppy wrote:
Read on Twitter
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I mis-read the tweet at first. I thought it was written today after Nico's call and said aLA could offer Luka for any player on the Mavs roster and the Mavs wouldn't listen.

And that's probably true. Nico hates that fat ****
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1910 » by ryguy613 » Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:11 pm

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Swish1906 wrote:Nico with the first (closed door, no cameras/mics) interview with journalist and just from the few things leaked already: there is no coming back for this franchise until the clown is gone

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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1911 » by rockmanslim » Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:17 pm

Nico: "When I traded for Kyrie, it was met with a lot of skepticism and it was graded as a terrible trade and you didn't see it right away, but eventually everyone agreed that that was a great trade."

Also Nico on why he got rid of Luka: "Defense wins championships"

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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1912 » by Tracymcgoaty » Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:41 pm

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G R E Y wrote:
Swish1906 wrote:Nico with the first (closed door, no cameras/mics) interview with journalist and just from the few things leaked already: there is no coming back for this franchise until the clown is gone

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Why would they want to fire Nico? Dude is like christ on the cross right now. What happens if they fire him? Dumont/adelson are next up.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1913 » by brackdan70 » Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:48 pm

Nico is an unsung genius. Time will unveil the truth.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1914 » by Swish1906 » Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:11 pm

brackdan70 wrote:Nico is an unsung genius. Time will unveil the truth.


Too bad „time“ is already running out with the 32y old glass man..
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1915 » by brackdan70 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 1:05 am

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brackdan70 wrote:Nico is an unsung genius. Time will unveil the truth.


Too bad „time“ is already running out with the 32y old glass man..

He has played more than Luka in each of the last two seasons incidentally
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1916 » by HMFFL » Wed Apr 16, 2025 2:59 am

Mav fans are getting everything thrown at them. The team is also moving. All of this is happens to be at once.

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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1917 » by sp6r=underrated » Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:09 am

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And for all the Cuban posturing about this trade, he was the one who hired Harrison with what GM qualifications?


Cuban deserves more blame than Dumont. Nico is not a negotiator or basketball team builder by training or experience. He was hired for Nike connections. Cuban assumed he would be the real basketball mind and Dallas didn't need a real upper management infrastructure.

Then he sold the team to a group that is openly indifferent to basketball. He never bothered to tell them Nico was going to need help and supervision.

After Nico, Cuban deserves the most blame.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1918 » by Mavrelous » Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:34 am

G R E Y wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Tim Cato was in the meeting, here are some of.the answers he shared.
Read on Twitter
?t=gIC_cBcFGEz8MbJ_XHpacg&s=19

I'm starting to wonder how much of this is a couple of things: one, a kind of mental slip of his being defensive and two, a cover for his really needing to be the man on the team and not having to cater to Luka. He started chipping away at Luka support long before this trade, long before Luka shouldered the team to the finals. It's such a weird unspoken dynamic bubbling just beneath the surface of running out of town the one guy who held more power than the GM.

And for all the Cuban posturing about this trade, he was the one who hired Harrison with what GM qualifications?


He was asked about it, pressed about it, and got defensive, I think Cato also mentioned that MacMahon was ready to up and leave at this point.
Tram injuries went downhill once Casey Smith left BTW.

Harrison reached a breaking point sometime around the 48-minute mark when MacMahon started to press about why the organization parted ways with former medical staff members Casey Smith, Jeremy Holsopple, and Casey Spangler. Smith, in particular, is regarded as one of league’s best in his role. “I’m not going to sit here and go back and forth,” Harrison said. “You’re coming at me from a negative standpoint, and I’m looking at it from a positive standpoint. The guys we brought in are better.” It was at that point that I thought MacMahon was going to stand up and leave.


https://www.dmagazine.com/sports/2025/04/mavericks-welts-harrison-doncic-nowitzki/
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1919 » by G R E Y » Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:43 am

Mavrelous wrote:
G R E Y wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Tim Cato was in the meeting, here are some of.the answers he shared.
Read on Twitter
?t=gIC_cBcFGEz8MbJ_XHpacg&s=19

I'm starting to wonder how much of this is a couple of things: one, a kind of mental slip of his being defensive and two, a cover for his really needing to be the man on the team and not having to cater to Luka. He started chipping away at Luka support long before this trade, long before Luka shouldered the team to the finals. It's such a weird unspoken dynamic bubbling just beneath the surface of running out of town the one guy who held more power than the GM.

And for all the Cuban posturing about this trade, he was the one who hired Harrison with what GM qualifications?


He was asked about it, pressed about it, and got defensive, I think Cato also mentioned that MacMahon was ready to up and leave at this point.
Tram injuries went downhill once Casey Smith left BTW.

Harrison reached a breaking point sometime around the 48-minute mark when MacMahon started to press about why the organization parted ways with former medical staff members Casey Smith, Jeremy Holsopple, and Casey Spangler. Smith, in particular, is regarded as one of league’s best in his role. “I’m not going to sit here and go back and forth,” Harrison said. “You’re coming at me from a negative standpoint, and I’m looking at it from a positive standpoint. The guys we brought in are better.” It was at that point that I thought MacMahon was going to stand up and leave.


https://www.dmagazine.com/sports/2025/04/mavericks-welts-harrison-doncic-nowitzki/

It... somehow gets worse each time he opens his mouth and each time more details come out.

And the closer to the truth, the more defensive. They're better, don't be negative. Translates to they're not, don't get too close to pulling the curtain back.

Sorry, man. I'm just sorry for the fans.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1920 » by G R E Y » Wed Apr 16, 2025 6:03 am

^ Some lowlights from Mav's link:

...no one touched the breakfast spread of coffee and croissants the Mavs offered us.


No one passes free food. No one. That's how bad this was.

He thanked us for being there in a fashion that felt like someone reminded him beforehand to thank us for being there.


Yep. Better than everyone and has to deign to share space with them. I think he has disdain for questioners based on the stupid answers lacking basic logic (article has some examples).

Still, Harrison is of the belief that that chapter is officially closed.


Tone deaf. How does he square it with

“Fire Nico” chants rain down at home games (and Stars games and sometimes Medieval Times, too).


It did not take long to realize that Harrison had reflected on little and learned even less.


All of which leads to the crux:
There’s more, but the point lies far less in what was said in that room than how it felt being in there. Like nothing can be questioned, and no one could possibly know better, not the media, not the greatest player in franchise history, not the people whose interest sustains the team as a business enterprise.


Damning.
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