Mike Budenholzer Fired By Suns

[Pickled Prunes]

Only the Wizards and Hawks

MIL also inquired. They aren't a bad team exactly, but that would not have worked out well.... so either way, not nobody.

Yeah, if PHX gave up assets to get off of Beal, sure those teams might be interested. But I highly doubt either team was offering anything of real susbstance for him. I mean, the Bucks went and traded Middleton for friggin Kuzma who was having one of the worst seasons of his career in WAS at the time. I doubt they had any real discussions with PHX on Beal. 2 years $110 mil remaining on that contract. What were they really going to trade to get him lol.

Your original statement that I was responding to was....

They'd still be stuck because NOBODY is trading for that contract.

Of course PHX would have to give something up or take back a couple of smaller bad contracts in return. The reality is that PHX would be happy to do that if Beal wasn't holding a NTC.

WAS would bring Beal back for a smaller fee because he would sell tickets for them. MIL wanted him because as bad as his contract is, and as overrated as he is, they need another dude. I have no idea why anybody else wanted him other than because of the assets coming with him.

The biggest blunder was MIA not taking him. They really need to make the playoffs this year or next season's pick becomes unprotected.Why they wanted Wiggins over Beal blows my mind!

[Cassius]

There really needs to be a salary cap for coaching… or they need to get rid of the second apron. Teams cry poor when it comes to player salaries and dead cap numbers, but they’re more than happy to pay three or four coaches at a time and are never penalized for it.

They rotate coaches, once they sign with a new team the old one doesn’t have to pay them anymore. The smart ones (Monty Williams) just take the money and leave for good.

Being an NBA head coach is way more prestigious then being a player, if you have the oppurtunity to be hired as one, you take it. Also they have to have some type of passion for the game in order to coach. You and I would take the money and sit on our asses, but that's probably why we are sitting on our couches talking about the nba and not involved in it.

There’s no way anyone in their right mind would consider membership in the fraternity of NBA coaches as more prestigious than being a player. Yes, scarcity means that there are fewer jobs available in a given year, but like… you don’t really believe that. I’m not even saying that coaches shouldn’t get their money after they’re fired. [And no, I’d love to work in the league and honestly, if I weren’t an immigrant and a parent, I’d have chased that dream… I still might!]

But as far as the topic goes, I just don’t like the fact that in the same breath, the Suns can spend their way out of a bad coach signing, but due to the second apron, they face punitive taxes, trade restrictions and even the forfeiture of draft picks if they try to spend their way out of a bad player signing/acquisition.

That says nothing of the human aspects, where a coach in his 40s or 50s has to uproot a family with teenagers preparing for college and spouses with established careers, unlike players traded in their 20s, whose wives have likely stepped away from the workforce to raise babies and toddlers anyways.

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MIL also inquired. They aren't a bad team exactly, but that would not have worked out well.... so either way, not nobody.

Yeah, if PHX gave up assets to get off of Beal, sure those teams might be interested. But I highly doubt either team was offering anything of real susbstance for him. I mean, the Bucks went and traded Middleton for friggin Kuzma who was having one of the worst seasons of his career in WAS at the time. I doubt they had any real discussions with PHX on Beal. 2 years $110 mil remaining on that contract. What were they really going to trade to get him lol.

Your original statement that I was responding to was....

They'd still be stuck because NOBODY is trading for that contract.

Of course PHX would have to give something up or take back a couple of smaller bad contracts in return. The reality is that PHX would be happy to do that if Beal wasn't holding a NTC.

WAS would bring Beal back for a smaller fee because he would sell tickets for them. MIL wanted him because as bad as his contract is, and as overrated as he is, they need another dude. I have no idea why anybody else wanted him other than because of the assets coming with him.

The biggest blunder was MIA not taking him. They really need to make the playoffs this year or next season's pick becomes unprotected.Why they wanted Wiggins over Beal blows my mind!

At least Wiggins has showsn the ability in the past to be a 2 way player, and an important component of a championship team. Beal has never shown himself to be more than a good stats bad team guy. Wiggins is also younger with a less burdensome contract.

[Cassius]

GM should be fired for trading for Beal. Him and Booker are the same guy...Saw something that said, "Book, Cp3, KD and Ayton were 8-0" CP3 Played every game this season, he would of made this team a playoff team.

Not the GM’s fault. If you follow the timeline, the period from 2019-2021 is the only time that ownership wasn’t meddling and Jones worked magic.

Former owner Sarver overruled the coach they had just hired in 2018 by drafting Ayton over Luka… that guy was Luka’s coach in Europe.

Sarver gets forced out as James Jones fully takes over in 2019. I’m pretty sure that was the Cam Johnson draft. They make a run in the bubble but just miss the playoffs in 2020. They trade for CP3 and make a 2021 Finals run. Ishbia buys the team and a year later forces the KD trade… when all they needed was a young PG to keeps CP3’s minutes down. Following that season they move for Beal.

[Pickled Prunes]

Yeah, if PHX gave up assets to get off of Beal, sure those teams might be interested. But I highly doubt either team was offering anything of real susbstance for him. I mean, the Bucks went and traded Middleton for friggin Kuzma who was having one of the worst seasons of his career in WAS at the time. I doubt they had any real discussions with PHX on Beal. 2 years $110 mil remaining on that contract. What were they really going to trade to get him lol.

Your original statement that I was responding to was....

They'd still be stuck because NOBODY is trading for that contract.

Of course PHX would have to give something up or take back a couple of smaller bad contracts in return. The reality is that PHX would be happy to do that if Beal wasn't holding a NTC.

WAS would bring Beal back for a smaller fee because he would sell tickets for them. MIL wanted him because as bad as his contract is, and as overrated as he is, they need another dude. I have no idea why anybody else wanted him other than because of the assets coming with him.

The biggest blunder was MIA not taking him. They really need to make the playoffs this year or next season's pick becomes unprotected.Why they wanted Wiggins over Beal blows my mind!

At least Wiggins has showsn the ability in the past to be a 2 way player, and an important component of a championship team. Beal has never shown himself to be more than a good stats bad team guy. Wiggins is also younger with a less burdensome contract.

Wiggins is trash that at one brief point in his career was wrapped around an In-N-Out burger.

Beal is not a $60m player, but nothing that happened in PHX has anything to do with him. The roster in PHX is three screwdrivers and a box of rusty nails. No toolbox needs three of the same tool. They brought Beal in with the hope that he and Booker could share the load of pounding nails, and they traded a hammer (CP3) to get him.

But you know who knows how to use all the tools in his toolbox? Coach Spo. Beal has had two of his three most efficient seasons in PHX. His play hasn't dropped off, just his usage. There is a very real chance that Beal would be an All-Star next season, back in the East and under Spo... and then the last year or two of that contract become much more tradeable.

And Wiggins(30) is only about 18 months younger than Beal(31). That's not really a factor. Honestly, I wouldn't want either of these players on my team, but if I had to choose one it would be Beal all day.