Trade back for Lillard?

[dckingsfan]

:crazy: More fantasy basketball, he gone and he ain't coming back for anything more than a 1 day contract. All the people whining about Grant, Ayton and Simons taking away all the developmental minutes and shots from the youngsters want to bring back the biggest chucker and defensive liability in years? Oh, but he is a leader and great mentor right? And makes a boatload of salary and can't win with Giannis? Check your head people.

Would you trade Jerami Grant for Damian Lillard straight up?

Trade doesn't work. You could do Grant & Simons for Lillard and Connaughton.

Not sure that is much more depth for Milwaukee though. So, probably a no.

[tester551]

:crazy: More fantasy basketball, he gone and he ain't coming back for anything more than a 1 day contract. All the people whining about Grant, Ayton and Simons taking away all the developmental minutes and shots from the youngsters want to bring back the biggest chucker and defensive liability in years? Oh, but he is a leader and great mentor right? And makes a boatload of salary and can't win with Giannis? Check your head people.

Would you trade Jerami Grant for Damian Lillard straight up?

Absolutely.

Grant is owed $102M over 3 years
Dame is owed $112M over 2 years

Grant + Williams for Dame works great.

[m0ng0]

:crazy: More fantasy basketball, he gone and he ain't coming back for anything more than a 1 day contract. All the people whining about Grant, Ayton and Simons taking away all the developmental minutes and shots from the youngsters want to bring back the biggest chucker and defensive liability in years? Oh, but he is a leader and great mentor right? And makes a boatload of salary and can't win with Giannis? Check your head people.

Would you trade Jerami Grant for Damian Lillard straight up?

Yes

[m0ng0]

:crazy: More fantasy basketball, he gone and he ain't coming back for anything more than a 1 day contract. All the people whining about Grant, Ayton and Simons taking away all the developmental minutes and shots from the youngsters want to bring back the biggest chucker and defensive liability in years? Oh, but he is a leader and great mentor right? And makes a boatload of salary and can't win with Giannis? Check your head people.

Would you trade Jerami Grant for Damian Lillard straight up?

Absolutely.

Grant is owed $102M over 3 years
Dame is owed $112M over 2 years

Grant + Williams for Dame works great.

I would do that too, neither brings much to the table whether it's injuries or lack of motivation

[m0ng0]

If we trade anything for Dame we are declaring the TANK over right?

*edit*
Dame left because he wanted to win a championship right? How has that panned out playing next to one of the best in the game right now over the last 2 years?

What happens if it's the same old same old here? Does he demand a trade again?

Would he take a pay cut?

Is he going to buy into actually playing defense?

Is he really going to be a mentor for Scoot? Didn't seem like he was interested a few years ago.

Can he stay healthy? Age is creeping up, I know that's a cr*p shoot for any player.

Or is this just all for nostalgia sake? Taking on his salary kinda sets us back in theory, and in no situation do we give up a first round pick for him. We want Milwaukee to suck, we have no idea how Boston will be in 4 years, I dont see how we give up any pickfor him unless he is ALL IN.

The last question is Milwaukee stupid enough to take our cast offs?

My answer is NO on almost all counts

[DusterBuster]

If we trade anything for Dame we are declaring the TANK over right?

I mean, Cronin and the exit interviews basically are claiming the tank is over, which is insane with a roster that projects to top out at .500, but here we are.

[m0ng0]

If we trade anything for Dame we are declaring the TANK over right?

I mean, Cronin and the exit interviews basically are claiming the tank is over, which is insane with a roster that projects to top out at .500, but here we are.

So that's a no? And if that's the case we don't need him right?

[DaVoiceMaster]

Would Milwaukee be interested in 7 expiring players for Giannis, Lillard, and Kuzma? They would only have a couple young players under contract and a ton of money to sign whoever they want. I'd send the Boston pick to the Lakers with Grant for Hachimura, Vincent, and Klieber. I'd then send those 3 players with Ayton, Simons, Williams III, and Thybulle plus whatever picks are left, including this year's pick.

PG Lillard / Scoot / Veteran
SG Sharpe / Rupert / Cisoko
SF Avdija / Camara / Murray
PF Antetokoumpo / Kuzma / Walker
-C Clingan / Reath / Veteran

You could swap Sharpe with Camara in the starting lineup to help cover for Lillard.

MIL will get far better offers for Giannis. We could add Sharpe and Scoot and I still think they would get better offers (And I would do that trade w/ Sharpe and Scoot included).

I am trying to figure out who could do that? I guess that would need to be one of OKC or Brooklyn. I just don't think either of those teams are interested.

I believe the better question is, "is Milwaukee ready to do a rebuild without Giannis"? I am skeptical on that front.

Also, Giannis and Dame contracts alone are $108M. All 7 of our expiring contracts come to $100M.

So, I think this set of trades is DOA

It worked in the ESPN Trade Machine.

[HoopsFanAZ]

If Ayton, Simons, Thybulle, and Time Lord walk in a year and the Blazers get nothing, that’s better than overpaying them as back-ups. Neither option is a win.

If the Blazers largely stand pat this summer, it’s a problem. Break out the pitchforks and shout, “Shenanigans!”
Cronin was complimentary towards the growth this year, towards the team, overall. He did not imply that ‘the cake has baked’ or any mention of icing. I will wait for the summer, but the pitchfork is already sharp. Cronin has work to do.

[Norm2953]

There is a major health risk if any team trades for Dame, which will limit any return for the Bucks.

Most likely the Bucks are just better off keeping him until his contract expires

[dckingsfan]

MIL will get far better offers for Giannis. We could add Sharpe and Scoot and I still think they would get better offers (And I would do that trade w/ Sharpe and Scoot included).

I am trying to figure out who could do that? I guess that would need to be one of OKC or Brooklyn. I just don't think either of those teams are interested.

I believe the better question is, "is Milwaukee ready to do a rebuild without Giannis"? I am skeptical on that front.

Also, Giannis and Dame contracts alone are $108M. All 7 of our expiring contracts come to $100M.

So, I think this set of trades is DOA

It worked in the ESPN Trade Machine.

You are right... it is only if there is more salary going the other way.

They would get Ayton, Simons, Thybulle, Williams, Sharpe, Reath and Rupert.

Dame, Scoot
Avdija
Camara, Grant
Giannis, Walker
Clingan

FRP

Interesting thought exercise.

[dckingsfan]

If Ayton, Simons, Thybulle, and Time Lord walk in a year and the Blazers get nothing, that’s better than overpaying them as back-ups. Neither option is a win.

If the Blazers largely stand pat this summer, it’s a problem. Break out the pitchforks and shout, “Shenanigans!”

Cronin was complimentary towards the growth this year, towards the team, overall. He did not imply that ‘the cake has baked’ or any mention of icing. I will wait for the summer, but the pitchfork is already sharp. Cronin has work to do.

Agreed. I wonder if Thybulle would agree to a declining contract. He fits with the defensive mindset.

We should let Ayton, Simons and Williams walk, IMO.

[Butter]

There is a major health risk if any team trades for Dame, which will limit any return for the Bucks.

Most likely the Bucks are just better off keeping him until his contract expires

The Bucks best chance for a Dame trade is a salary dump. And I assume that's NOT in the table unless they trade Giannis for a HAUL of draft picks.

[zzaj]

There is a major health risk if any team trades for Dame, which will limit any return for the Bucks.

Most likely the Bucks are just better off keeping him until his contract expires

The Bucks best chance for a Dame trade is a salary dump. And I assume that's NOT in the table unless they trade Giannis for a HAUL of draft picks.

I wonder if OKC would go in for Giannis? Something like:

Giannis

for

Hartenstein
Wiggins
Topic
2025 1st (1-6 protected)
2027 1st (1-5 protected)

More picks?

[Butter]

There is a major health risk if any team trades for Dame, which will limit any return for the Bucks.

Most likely the Bucks are just better off keeping him until his contract expires

The Bucks best chance for a Dame trade is a salary dump. And I assume that's NOT in the table unless they trade Giannis for a HAUL of draft picks.

I wonder if OKC would go in for Giannis? Something like:

Giannis

for

Hartenstein
Wiggins
Topic
2025 1st (1-6 protected)
2027 1st (1-5 protected)

More picks?

Man, if I'm the Bucks, I'd be asking for the moon. At least more than the Nets got for Bridges.

[zzaj]

The Bucks best chance for a Dame trade is a salary dump. And I assume that's NOT in the table unless they trade Giannis for a HAUL of draft picks.

I wonder if OKC would go in for Giannis? Something like:

Giannis

for

Hartenstein
Wiggins
Topic
2025 1st (1-6 protected)
2027 1st (1-5 protected)

More picks?

Man, if I'm the Bucks, I'd be asking for the moon. At least more than the Nets got for Bridges.

Yeah, I kinda forgot that it was OKC who I was dealing with here. Picks are mostly going to be not that valuable.

I don't know who has a stockpile of projected low 1sts, +salary to make something like that work...

[DaVoiceMaster]

I am trying to figure out who could do that? I guess that would need to be one of OKC or Brooklyn. I just don't think either of those teams are interested.

I believe the better question is, "is Milwaukee ready to do a rebuild without Giannis"? I am skeptical on that front.

Also, Giannis and Dame contracts alone are $108M. All 7 of our expiring contracts come to $100M.

So, I think this set of trades is DOA

It worked in the ESPN Trade Machine.

You are right... it is only if there is more salary going the other way.

They would get Ayton, Simons, Thybulle, Williams, Sharpe, Reath and Rupert.

Dame, Scoot
Avdija
Camara, Grant
Giannis, Walker
Clingan

FRP

Interesting thought exercise.

Dunno about that group of 7 players. I was sending Grant and the Boston pick to the Lakers for Rui, Vincent, and Klieber. I'd send those 3 players, along with Ayton, Simons, RW3, and Thybulle. That worked in the ESPN NBA Trade Machine. I don't think your deal would work.

[dckingsfan]

It worked in the ESPN Trade Machine.

You are right... it is only if there is more salary going the other way.

They would get Ayton, Simons, Thybulle, Williams, Sharpe, Reath and Rupert.

Dame, Scoot
Avdija
Camara, Grant
Giannis, Walker
Clingan

FRP

Interesting thought exercise.

Dunno about that group of 7 players. I was sending Grant and the Boston pick to the Lakers for Rui, Vincent, and Klieber. I'd send those 3 players, along with Ayton, Simons, RW3, and Thybulle. That worked in the ESPN NBA Trade Machine. I don't think your deal would work.

It worked in the Trade Machine. Funny, I thought that was what you were talking about.

Please note: the Lakers are not trading for Grant, IMO. The Lakers also need depth. Rui played better than Grant this season and Vincent played a lot of minutes for the (although is not needed with the addition of Luka). Rui and Vincent also give them tremendous cap flexibility in '26-'27. Interesting thoughts though.

[DaVoiceMaster]

You are right... it is only if there is more salary going the other way.

They would get Ayton, Simons, Thybulle, Williams, Sharpe, Reath and Rupert.

Dame, Scoot
Avdija
Camara, Grant
Giannis, Walker
Clingan

FRP

Interesting thought exercise.

Dunno about that group of 7 players. I was sending Grant and the Boston pick to the Lakers for Rui, Vincent, and Klieber. I'd send those 3 players, along with Ayton, Simons, RW3, and Thybulle. That worked in the ESPN NBA Trade Machine. I don't think your deal would work.

It worked in the Trade Machine. Funny, I thought that was what you were talking about.

Please note: the Lakers are not trading for Grant, IMO. The Lakers also need depth. Rui played better than Grant this season and Vincent played a lot of minutes for the (although is not needed with the addition of Luka). Rui and Vincent also give them tremendous cap flexibility in '26-'27. Interesting thoughts though.

Yeah, Wiz said rhe same thing. I dont watch the Lakers so I was just going off chatter from earlier in the season. I just want someone to take Grant!!!

[dunlop212]

What if Lillard can't play due to the blood clot issue? Does a team that has his contract get some relief get some relief from apron consequences? I'm thinking of the old Darius Miles exception (I'm aware that Miles backstabbed Portland by coming back to play; just wondering what the current rule is).