FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025

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Jazz
Mavericks
Heat
Caveliers
Bucks
Lakers
Magic
Raptors
Pelicans (CP3 was on the New Orleans Hornets at the time)
Pistons
Nuggets

Even as a Piston fan I'd completely forgotten Tayshaun was on that team.

Maybe just from 2008 onward?

Yeah I like that. We haven't done a game with a shorter time frame in a while.

The sad thing is that if you start with the 2008-09 season (the first season AFTER the Olympics) the Pistons bring virtually nothing to the table in terms of the draft board.

Though I dunno if you start with the 2007-08 or 2008-09.

Was thinking 2007-08

[Laimbeer]

Do Carmelo and Dwight draft similar to the JJ Redick draft. One category would be top five in scoring per game for a season. One category would be top five in DPOY for a season. The other categories would be the three teams each played the most games for.

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Another possible category is LeBron teammates (both were). DPOY candidates and scoring leaders are sure to be stacked.

Maybe also at least 6 teams traveller.

I would eliminate the top scorer and DPOY categories and replace with Dwight and Melo teammates before I'd do that. jmo

[Laimbeer]

I'd like to see a pure 2025 game. I think there are enough alphas.

Jokic
SGA
Giannis
AD
Luka
LeBron
Tatum
Curry
Durant
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Butler
ANT
Trae
Hali
Victor
Mitchell
Booker

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I'd like to see a pure 2025 game. I think there are enough alphas.

Jokic
SGA
Giannis
AD
Luka
LeBron
Tatum
Curry
Durant
=======
Butler
ANT
Trae
Hali
Victor
Mitchell
Booker

We do that every year don't we? I think it would normally be starting around now with the regular season over.

[MadNESS]

I like the timeframe to timeframe games. Maybe a dream team game? 92’ until when? MJ retired the first time? Second time?

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I like the timeframe to timeframe games. Maybe a dream team game? 92’ until when? MJ retired the first time? Second time?

Could just go up to the Redeem Team year (1992-2008).

[MadNESS]

I like the timeframe to timeframe games. Maybe a dream team game? 92’ until when? MJ retired the first time? Second time?

Could just go up to the Redeem Team year (1992-2008).

Sounds good to me

[Laimbeer]

I'd like to see a pure 2025 game. I think there are enough alphas.

Jokic
SGA
Giannis
AD
Luka
LeBron
Tatum
Curry
Durant
=======
Butler
ANT
Trae
Hali
Victor
Mitchell
Booker

We do that every year don't we? I think it would normally be starting around now with the regular season over.

Yeah I think so. If anyone wants to run it feel free to do it. Won't hurt my feelings.

[durantbird]

I like the timeframe to timeframe games. Maybe a dream team game? 92’ until when? MJ retired the first time? Second time?

I checked this idea. Might be a bit too tough honestly.

Another thing we can do that we did in previous years is pair drafts of franchises cross standings according to 2024-25.

East cross standings: Cavaliers - Wizards, Celtics - Hornets, Knicks - 76ers, Pacers - Nets, Bucks - Raptors, Pistons - Bulls, Magic - Hawks, Heat - Heat

West cross standings: Thunder - Jazz, Rockets - Pelicans, Lakers - Spurs, Nuggets - Trail Blazers, Clippers - Suns, Timberwolves - Mavericks, Warriors - Kings, Grizzlies - Grizzlies

[durantbird]

Georgetown legends - franchises for the Georgetown hall of famers: Ewing Mourning Iverson Mutombo.

That is, Knicks Seattle Orlando Miami Charlotte Brooklyn Philly Denver Detroit Memphis Atlanta Houston.

I think it forms an interesting pool.

Top end talent would be: LBJ Jokic Hakeem Shaq Durant Wade SGA Harden Butler Tracy Penny Dwight Paul Allen Barkley Hill Ewing Mourning Kidd Isiah Billups Payton Kemp etc.

If we go further back than the usual 90s, we add guys like: Wilt Erving Moses Reed Frazier Lanier.

[MadNESS]

Speed draft
Pick a time frame
Pick couple rules

Pick a day
Pick a time
We complete the draft in 2 hours or less
No time to research or think

[MadNESS]

Trade draft

Pick time a frame
pick some rules

after the draft is completed, you have to make 2 trades.

FGA's do not count during the trading period.

rosters get set. same as normal after that.

[durantbird]

Longest Droughts, aka The Dusty Banner

Top 10 teams who ever won an NBA championship and are in the actively longest championship droughts

Kings Hawks Knicks Trailblazers Wizards OKC Philly Houston Bulls Detroit

[Larry_Russell]

best worst pairing by playoff win total.
Say top 5 and bottom 5 teams

Lakers-Pelicans
Celtics-Hornets
76ers-Timberwolves
Spurs-Grizzlies
Warriors-Raptors

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The Gregg Popovich Draft

- One player who only played for a single franchise
- One player who was active during both lockout-shortened seasons (1998-99 and 2011-12)
- One Spur
- One player each from the Knicks, Nets, Pistons, Cavs, and Heat (Pop's Finals opponents)

Only seasons in which Pop coached (1996-97 to 2024-25) eligible

[durantbird]

The Gregg Popovich Draft

- One player who only played for a single franchise
- One player who was active during both lockout-shortened seasons (1998-99 and 2011-12)
- One Spur
- One player each from the Knicks, Nets, Pistons, Cavs, and Heat (Pop's Finals opponents)

Only seasons in which Pop coached (1996-97 to 2024-25) eligible

Any convenient way to get a list for the second category?

[durantbird]

The Gregg Popovich Draft

- One player who only played for a single franchise
- One player who was active during both lockout-shortened seasons (1998-99 and 2011-12)
- One Spur
- One player each from the Knicks, Nets, Pistons, Cavs, and Heat (Pop's Finals opponents)

Only seasons in which Pop coached (1996-97 to 2024-25) eligible

Any convenient way to get a list for the second category?

OK just wrote a script to calculate this based on basketball reference. Looks like the 99'-12' intersection has only 32 guys, sounds a little borderline for a whole category.

Those guys are:

Spoiler:

Code: Select all

Players who played in both 1998-99 and 2011-12 seasons:
==================================================
1. Al Harrington
2. Antawn Jamison
3. Anthony Parker
4. Ben Wallace
5. Brad Miller
6. Brian Skinner
7. Chauncey Billups
8. Derek Fisher
9. Dirk Nowitzki
10. Earl Boykins
11. Erick Dampier
12. Grant Hill
13. Jason Kidd
14. Jermaine O'Neal
15. Jerry Stackhouse
16. Juwan Howard
17. Kevin Garnett
18. Kobe Bryant
19. Kurt Thomas
20. Larry Hughes
21. Marcus Camby
22. Mike Bibby
23. Mikki Moore
24. Nazr Mohammed
25. Paul Pierce
26. Rashard Lewis
27. Ray Allen
28. Steve Nash
29. Tim Duncan
30. Tony Battie
31. Tracy McGrady
32. Vince Carter

Total players in both seasons: 32
Total players in 1998-99: 440
Total players in 2011-12: 478

[Snakebites]

The Gregg Popovich Draft

- One player who only played for a single franchise
- One player who was active during both lockout-shortened seasons (1998-99 and 2011-12)
- One Spur
- One player each from the Knicks, Nets, Pistons, Cavs, and Heat (Pop's Finals opponents)

Only seasons in which Pop coached (1996-97 to 2024-25) eligible

Any convenient way to get a list for the second category?

OK just wrote a script to calculate this based on basketball reference. Looks like the 99'-12' intersection has only 32 guys, sounds a little borderline for a whole category.

Those guys are:

Spoiler:

Code: Select all

Players who played in both 1998-99 and 2011-12 seasons:
==================================================
1. Al Harrington
2. Antawn Jamison
3. Anthony Parker
4. Ben Wallace
5. Brad Miller
6. Brian Skinner
7. Chauncey Billups
8. Derek Fisher
9. Dirk Nowitzki
10. Earl Boykins
11. Erick Dampier
12. Grant Hill
13. Jason Kidd
14. Jermaine O'Neal
15. Jerry Stackhouse
16. Juwan Howard
17. Kevin Garnett
18. Kobe Bryant
19. Kurt Thomas
20. Larry Hughes
21. Marcus Camby
22. Mike Bibby
23. Mikki Moore
24. Nazr Mohammed
25. Paul Pierce
26. Rashard Lewis
27. Ray Allen
28. Steve Nash
29. Tim Duncan
30. Tony Battie
31. Tracy McGrady
32. Vince Carter

Total players in both seasons: 32
Total players in 1998-99: 440
Total players in 2011-12: 478

You don't think 32 players is enough for a category? I see a lot of guys regularly taken in these. Some also occur in other categories but there would be a premium on this category.

I'm sure another category could be used. Could simply have a category for players who have retired within the last x number of years, or players who have played in at least 3 different decades. There's a wealth of alternatives. Just takes a little imagination.

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The Gregg Popovich Draft

- One player who only played for a single franchise
- One player who was active during both lockout-shortened seasons (1998-99 and 2011-12)
- One Spur
- One player each from the Knicks, Nets, Pistons, Cavs, and Heat (Pop's Finals opponents)

Only seasons in which Pop coached (1996-97 to 2024-25) eligible

Any convenient way to get a list for the second category?

OK just wrote a script to calculate this based on basketball reference. Looks like the 99'-12' intersection has only 32 guys, sounds a little borderline for a whole category.

Those guys are:

Spoiler:

Code: Select all

Players who played in both 1998-99 and 2011-12 seasons:
==================================================
1. Al Harrington
2. Antawn Jamison
3. Anthony Parker
4. Ben Wallace
5. Brad Miller
6. Brian Skinner
7. Chauncey Billups
8. Derek Fisher
9. Dirk Nowitzki
10. Earl Boykins
11. Erick Dampier
12. Grant Hill
13. Jason Kidd
14. Jermaine O'Neal
15. Jerry Stackhouse
16. Juwan Howard
17. Kevin Garnett
18. Kobe Bryant
19. Kurt Thomas
20. Larry Hughes
21. Marcus Camby
22. Mike Bibby
23. Mikki Moore
24. Nazr Mohammed
25. Paul Pierce
26. Rashard Lewis
27. Ray Allen
28. Steve Nash
29. Tim Duncan
30. Tony Battie
31. Tracy McGrady
32. Vince Carter

Total players in both seasons: 32
Total players in 1998-99: 440
Total players in 2011-12: 478

New category:

- One player who was active during lockout-shortened 1998-99 season when the Spurs won their first championship (you must use 1998-99 for that player)

[Snakebites]

Any convenient way to get a list for the second category?

OK just wrote a script to calculate this based on basketball reference. Looks like the 99'-12' intersection has only 32 guys, sounds a little borderline for a whole category.

Those guys are:

Spoiler:

Code: Select all

Players who played in both 1998-99 and 2011-12 seasons:
==================================================
1. Al Harrington
2. Antawn Jamison
3. Anthony Parker
4. Ben Wallace
5. Brad Miller
6. Brian Skinner
7. Chauncey Billups
8. Derek Fisher
9. Dirk Nowitzki
10. Earl Boykins
11. Erick Dampier
12. Grant Hill
13. Jason Kidd
14. Jermaine O'Neal
15. Jerry Stackhouse
16. Juwan Howard
17. Kevin Garnett
18. Kobe Bryant
19. Kurt Thomas
20. Larry Hughes
21. Marcus Camby
22. Mike Bibby
23. Mikki Moore
24. Nazr Mohammed
25. Paul Pierce
26. Rashard Lewis
27. Ray Allen
28. Steve Nash
29. Tim Duncan
30. Tony Battie
31. Tracy McGrady
32. Vince Carter

Total players in both seasons: 32
Total players in 1998-99: 440
Total players in 2011-12: 478

New category:

- One player who was active during lockout-shortened 1998-99 season when the Spurs won their first championship (you must use 1998-99 for that player)

I like it!

That’s an unusual season- the level of play was generally lower because the season was rushed- there’s not many “peak” years. Malone was MVP despite underwhelming stats. It’ll force some drafters to at least look at off brand years.

I said I’d take a break but if this is the next game I guess that break only lasted one competition.