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[Invictus88]

Cade is becoming Luka-light on offense (with, arguably, better defensive effort). We should remember this if anyone ever mentions wanting to trade him again.

I don't think remembering or even mentioning the above will have any real impact on those wanting to trade him. For many that ship sailed a while ago and presenting evidence to the contrary is meaningless.

See above for the "if" in the sentence

I'm saying that If they mention trading him then reminding them of what you are posting won't likely help...

[SuperBad]

I think Cade is a plus defender for his position, and is much more impactful on defense than Luka.

[tmorgan]

I think Cade is a plus defender for his position, and is much more impactful on defense than Luka.

Cade’s defense is entirely dependent on his assignment, which is why it’s really nice to start Ausar in case we need him for POA defense.

Cade has learned a lot in three years. He’s generally attentive, he’s definitely tall and long for a guard, and his strength has reached at least average for his position. He can easily guard guys like Haliburton, Brunson, old Lillard, Herro, and many others.

Bujt when you talk about guys with elite first steps, particularly smaller ones with a real speed advantage, Cade isn’t very good at all. Mitchell, Fox, Lavine, those kind of guys, he needs to be switched off for Ausar, who can keep up with literally anyone.

I don’t think he’s a defensive problem going forward with the other guys we have, which is good. I do think Ivey’s going to need to improve a ton on defense when he returns, because he can’t seem to handle the bigger guys or the faster guys, which is going to cause some matchup problems we don’t have right now. That Beasley is a better defender than Ivey is really telling. And THJ is the worst of all — all he can really do is try to funnel guys in the right direction and hope the bigs don’t get in foul trouble. :/

[Cowology]

I think Cade is a plus defender for his position, and is much more impactful on defense than Luka.

Cade’s defense is entirely dependent on his assignment, which is why it’s really nice to start Ausar in case we need him for POA defense.

Cade has learned a lot in three years. He’s generally attentive, he’s definitely tall and long for a guard, and his strength has reached at least average for his position. He can easily guard guys like Haliburton, Brunson, old Lillard, Herro, and many others.

Bujt when you talk about guys with elite first steps, particularly smaller ones with a real speed advantage, Cade isn’t very good at all. Mitchell, Fox, Lavine, those kind of guys, he needs to be switched off for Ausar, who can keep up with literally anyone.

I don’t think he’s a defensive problem going forward with the other guys we have, which is good. I do think Ivey’s going to need to improve a ton on defense when he returns, because he can’t seem to handle the bigger guys or the faster guys, which is going to cause some matchup problems we don’t have right now. That Beasley is a better defender than Ivey is really telling. And THJ is the worst of all — all he can really do is try to funnel guys in the right direction and hope the bigs don’t get in foul trouble. :/

Yeah, the trusty old eye-test tells me that Cade has been playing above average defense this season. It's absolutely true that quicker guards will torch him, but in theory he & Ivey should be cross-matched most of the time anyway. Cade is really more of a point-forward, or point-shooting guard if that were a thing. This hybrid crap gets wonky.

I won't be shocked if Schroder eventually supplants THJ either. I think the hope when we picked him up was that he'd actually be able to sorta fill that Ivey role.

[SuperBad]

When I saw the Luka trade, the first reasons I thought of was the conditioning, and that they had seen a future better all around version in Cade coming down the road, and it helped them move on

[Cowology]

Jokic is from another planet. 30-20-20?? Dear lord...

[Kalamazoo317]

:o Jokic is from another planet. 30-20-20?? Dear lord...

31-21-22 to be more precise!

And then there's this part (just insane):

"Jokic initially logged a triple-double with 10:22 left to play in the third quarter. From that point forward, the Nuggets center logged another triple-double over the final portion of the third quarter, the fourth quarter and overtime."

[Cowology]

:o Jokic is from another planet. 30-20-20?? Dear lord...

31-21-22 to be more precise!

And then there's this part (just insane):

"Jokic initially logged a triple-double with 10:22 left to play in the third quarter. From that point forward, the Nuggets center logged another triple-double over the final portion of the third quarter, the fourth quarter and overtime."

I may be remembering wrong, but I think he also beat Wilts record for assists by a Center with 22. Pretty sure he was chasing 21.

[chrbal]

:o Jokic is from another planet. 30-20-20?? Dear lord...

31-21-22 to be more precise!

And then there's this part (just insane):

"Jokic initially logged a triple-double with 10:22 left to play in the third quarter. From that point forward, the Nuggets center logged another triple-double over the final portion of the third quarter, the fourth quarter and overtime."

I may be remembering wrong, but I think he also beat Wilts record for assists by a Center with 22. Pretty sure he was chasing 21.

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[chrbal]

Mavericks are almost at the point of having coaches suit up and play

[Cowology]

Giddy has quietly come on quite strong. Post All-Star Break (12 games) he's averaging 22.6 pts, 10.2 rebs & 9.1 ast. He's shooting over 50% from both the floor and 3pt land. He's up to nearly 6 FTA per game, averages fewer than 3 TO's per game and just decided to start making game winners. Dude is playing outa his mind. Bulls fans should be very excited about their future backcourt.

[bstein14]

Giddy has quietly come on quite strong. Post All-Star Break (12 games) he's averaging 22.6 pts, 10.2 rebs & 9.1 ast. He's shooting over 50% from both the floor and 3pt land. He's up to nearly 6 FTA per game, averages fewer than 3 TO's per game and just decided to start making game winners. Dude is playing outa his mind. Bulls fans should be very excited about their future backcourt.

It'll be very interesting to see what kind of contract he gets. He's been putting up MAX contract numbers the past month and the team has been winning.... not sure if he's going to have enough of a sample size to get $100+ million or not.

[MortSahlfan]

I wanted Indy to lose and Sac to win, so of course, it's a 2pt win for Indy.

[Cowology]

I didn't like all the pouting in South Beach, but Playoff Jimmy is still probably my fav non Piston. Dude is insane this time of year. 38 pts on 20 shots (12-20) is pretty damn efficient despite missing some FT. And of course the 7 rebs, 6 asst & 3 stl. This is the best teammate Steph has had since KD. It would be kinda wild to watch them vs. LA just to see the matchup with LBJ & Luka.

Can you imagine being Houston as the 2 seed staring down the W's? Poor Houston.

[tmorgan]

I didn't like all the pouting in South Beach, but Playoff Jimmy is still probably my fav non Piston. Dude is insane this time of year. 38 pts on 20 shots (12-20) is pretty damn efficient despite missing some FT. And of course the 7 rebs, 6 asst & 3 stl. This is the best teammate Steph has had since KD. It would be kinda wild to watch them vs. LA just to see the matchup with LBJ & Luka.

Can you imagine being Houston as the 2 seed staring down the W's? Poor Houston.

Houston plays good defense (outside of that goof Jalen Green). It’ll be a good series. The Warriors probably have the two best players, but Houston may have the next six or eight, depending on what Draymond looks like. His unique point-big role was awesome until people stopped guarding him at all and he couldn’t do much with it. Defense is still there, though.

[tmorgan]

Based on early return (and published) voters:

Cade is on the border of 2nd and 3rd team All-NBA, so is likely to make one of the teams.
Bickerstaff will finish a distant 2nd to Atkinson for CotY
Beasley will finish a distant 2nd to Pritchard for 6MotY
RotY is Castle by a lot
Mobley leads Green for DPotY
Cade is a distant third for MIP behind Zubac and Daniels in a close race

[Cowology]

I didn't like all the pouting in South Beach, but Playoff Jimmy is still probably my fav non Piston. Dude is insane this time of year. 38 pts on 20 shots (12-20) is pretty damn efficient despite missing some FT. And of course the 7 rebs, 6 asst & 3 stl. This is the best teammate Steph has had since KD. It would be kinda wild to watch them vs. LA just to see the matchup with LBJ & Luka.

Can you imagine being Houston as the 2 seed staring down the W's? Poor Houston.

Houston plays good defense (outside of that goof Jalen Green). It’ll be a good series. The Warriors probably have the two best players, but Houston may have the next six or eight, depending on what Draymond looks like. His unique point-big role was awesome until people stopped guarding him at all and he couldn’t do much with it. Defense is still there, though.

You're not wrong. Houston is definitely deeper and more balanced. And honestly, Udoka might be the better coach. I hate to say that in comparison to a guy who has a record of excellence, but I think in terms of talent development and game execution that Udoka has a leg up. Either way should be a good chess match and I'm curious to see what adjustments both coaches make through out the series.

A lot probably will depend on whether the Warriors get enough help outside of their big 2. And if either of them is having an off night, then what? Houston doesn't have to rely on any particular guy - they just sorta do it by committee with any number of guys capable of having a big game and their defense will keep them in it.

I'm still taking Warriors in 6 on this one just because "Playoff Jimmy" is a thing, but I won't be shocked either way. Should be a good series.

[Snakebites]

Based on early return (and published) voters:

Cade is on the border of 2nd and 3rd team All-NBA, so is likely to make one of the teams.
Bickerstaff will finish a distant 2nd to Atkinson for CotY
Beasley will finish a distant 2nd to Pritchard for 6MotY
RotY is Castle by a lot
Mobley leads Green for DPotY
Cade is a distant third for MIP behind Zubac and Daniels in a close race

There's never been consistency in how Most Improved Player is selected. I personally think it should be reserved for guys who take unexpected leaps and that high draft picks like Cade who are following relatively normal career trajectories shouldn't be in line for that award. That isn't how it's always been selected, but I still don't have a problem with Cade not getting that award.

Cade being on either the second or third team sounds fair.

Pritchard's advanced stats paint a clear picture of his case over Beasley even if I personally like Beasley better.

It's hard to justify JBB over Atkinson IMO.

That we have multiple people in conversations for these awards is a positive indicator of our progress, but I don't get too caught up in these awards and who actually wins them myself.

[tmorgan]

Yeah, all the results seem reasonable. The only one I don’t like is Atkinson over JBB, but given how that award typically goes. It’s hardly surprising.

[ducler]

Langdon should win executive of the year as consolation price, doesn't he?