KD to the Knicks part 2?
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Even if KD does get traded here (which isn't happening) he would bounce after his contract is up in a year. We'd be foolish to trade away whatever the Suns would require for a 1 year rental on a 37 year old, who hates the Knicks. How is this even a discussion at this point? Reading this nonsense is equivalent to putting lemon juice in my eyes.
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Timberwolves lost 6 extra games dropping from 56 to 49. Because they traded towns. So if you take those 6 games plus the 1 extra game the Knicks won than last season, that’s 7 games, so we would be 44-38 but that’s not all
Now take the suns, they were a 64 win team in 2021-2022 and then they traded for KD the following year and went 100-90 since the KD trade. That’s a .526 win percentage. Or a 43 win average. That means they lose 21 more games on average by adding him to a 64 win team. That’s being kind because they went 36-46 this year but I’m trying to be nice
So if you take the 7 games trading towns would cause us to lose and then add the 21 games adding KD makes a team lose we’d lose 28 more games
Therefore, we’d be 23-59 if we trade towns for KD
Now take the suns, they were a 64 win team in 2021-2022 and then they traded for KD the following year and went 100-90 since the KD trade. That’s a .526 win percentage. Or a 43 win average. That means they lose 21 more games on average by adding him to a 64 win team. That’s being kind because they went 36-46 this year but I’m trying to be nice
So if you take the 7 games trading towns would cause us to lose and then add the 21 games adding KD makes a team lose we’d lose 28 more games
Therefore, we’d be 23-59 if we trade towns for KD
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Actually make it 22-60 I’m adding another game for depreciation
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Now before KD lovers chime in and say “oh but rob the nets went from 44-38 in KDs last full season there(wow so impressive) to 32-50 without him, so what about those 12 games losing KD caused” and you’d be 100% wrong because that was all about losing Kyrie Irving who took a team that had the 10th worst record in the NBA to the finals the following year while KD continues to get worse and worse. Kyrie demanded a trade to get away from him. Nobody wants to play with KD. Brunson will demand a trade by next years deadline.
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3toheadmelo wrote:Guano wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
They wouldn't. They'd ask for KAT and that's a hard pass
I honestly would do it. It's a risky gamble but we desperately need a second creator.
And I'd look to move mikal for a big.
Sure it kills us in the long run but fck it. I want sham and wongo to see another chip before they become worm food.
This right here is a great person who knows ball!
Well damn, now I'm questioning my stance.
Jk, I want to see a championship and were closer to that with kd than kat though this would be a risky move cause if we don't win it all our future is fcked
While you love to throw around mid I don't think this team is that. But I don't think they're good enough to win it all. We will be perennial playoff team that just isnt good enough to compete for a chip.
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This thread is what you get when you type into Google Search:
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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Guano wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
That's the shell game, where you end up chasing the next need and end up worse than before. Because once you move Mikal for the big you now need a 2, how can you get the 2? You're not starting Deuce or Hart at the 2, so you have to trade Hart, Deuce or both, and now you have even less of a rotation than before, except now your 2nd best player is 37.
The Suns fcked up by going all in on Beal.... kinda like we did with mikal
Mikal doesn't have a no trade clause, he can be moved, but the point is once you start trading core pieces you end up playing a shell game if every move isn't perfect.
I honestly loath the gm part of realgm.
It's like we're playing the Sims or some dorky game. Cause we're not trading for kd. It's all make believe.
Were either gonna waste another year with a bad marriage between thibs and this roster or bring in a new coach to see if they can unlock the brunson & kat pairing. I'm not getting younger so I hope it's the latter.
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MrDollarBills wrote:Guano wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
Go look at the game logs.
KD put up good stats this year too and his team didn't even make the play in.
Then that sounds like it's everyone else fault.
Just like it was in Brooklyn I guess.
Yet, he's the one constant in these teams going into the sh*ter after acquiring him.
Buyer beware is all I'm saying. What he did against the Bucks was four years ago.
I don't get the kd hate.
He seems like a weird insecure dude who is phenomenal at getting buckets.
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Guano wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Guano wrote:
The Suns fcked up by going all in on Beal.... kinda like we did with mikal
Mikal doesn't have a no trade clause, he can be moved, but the point is once you start trading core pieces you end up playing a shell game if every move isn't perfect.
I honestly loath the gm part of realgm.
It's like we're playing the Sims or some dorky game. Cause we're not trading for kd. It's all make believe.
That’s the part about this place that I loved as a kid and kept me coming back here lol.
But hey, that’s what everyone said to me last year about trading for Mikal and then it happened… you never know!
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Guano wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Guano wrote:
I honestly would do it. It's a risky gamble but we desperately need a second creator.
And I'd look to move mikal for a big.
Sure it kills us in the long run but fck it. I want sham and wongo to see another chip before they become worm food.
This right here is a great person who knows ball!
Well damn, now I'm questioning my stance.
Jk, I want to see a championship and were closer to that with kd than kat though this would be a risky move cause if we don't win it all our future is fcked
While you love to throw around mid I don't think this team is that. But I don't think they're good enough to win it all. We will be perennial playoff team that just isnt good enough to compete for a chip.
I think we are like the toronto raptors when they had lowry and derozan. Will be really good in the regular season but would get owned by the real contenders

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3toheadmelo wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:I'm still waiting for you to answer where was he a negative in the playoffs
A near .500 team?
Durant just isn't a ceiling raiser. He always gets his and yet the team gets their asses beat. That's a negative player to me.
He put up pretty stats versus Boston too and the Nets got ran out of the gym. Minnesota ran Phoenix outta the gym 12 months ago and now they've missed the playoffs entirely. You think this guy is the answer?
So how come they had a winning record with KD but went 3-17 without him? Your argument isn't adding up
Bro they're barely over .500 with him in the line up. They missed the playoffs.
His days as a difference maker are behind him. Sorry
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Guano wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Guano wrote:
Then that sounds like it's everyone else fault.
Just like it was in Brooklyn I guess.
Yet, he's the one constant in these teams going into the sh*ter after acquiring him.
Buyer beware is all I'm saying. What he did against the Bucks was four years ago.
I don't get the kd hate.
He seems like a weird insecure dude who is phenomenal at getting buckets.
It's not hate i literally watched this dude up close for about 2 years. I don't want him here for a good reason and it's because he will tank the Knicks just like he did the Nets and Suns.
I'm trying to warn you and melo but whatever. Don't say that I didn't have your best interests in mind if you get what you want.
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The same dude you want got Kenny Atkinson fired when he was on the IR.
KD is a f*cking bitch and he would fold if he dealt with 1/10th of the heat Mikal Bridges has on him right now. You guys have no clue what you're asking for right now.
But go ahead. Guano, Melo if you want him here, ok. But don't say that I didn't warn you.
KD is a f*cking bitch and he would fold if he dealt with 1/10th of the heat Mikal Bridges has on him right now. You guys have no clue what you're asking for right now.
But go ahead. Guano, Melo if you want him here, ok. But don't say that I didn't warn you.
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MrDollarBills wrote:Guano wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
Just like it was in Brooklyn I guess.
Yet, he's the one constant in these teams going into the sh*ter after acquiring him.
Buyer beware is all I'm saying. What he did against the Bucks was four years ago.
I don't get the kd hate.
He seems like a weird insecure dude who is phenomenal at getting buckets.
It's not hate i literally watched this dude up close for about 2 years. I don't want him here for a good reason and it's because he will tank the Knicks just like he did the Nets and Suns.
I'm trying to warn you and melo but whatever. Don't say that I didn't have your best interests in mind if you get what you want.
You tried to sell us on mikalikina and look what happened. We don’t trust your intel



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MrDollarBills wrote:Guano wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
Just like it was in Brooklyn I guess.
Yet, he's the one constant in these teams going into the sh*ter after acquiring him.
Buyer beware is all I'm saying. What he did against the Bucks was four years ago.
I don't get the kd hate.
He seems like a weird insecure dude who is phenomenal at getting buckets.
It's not hate i literally watched this dude up close for about 2 years. I don't want him here for a good reason and it's because he will tank the Knicks just like he did the Nets and Suns.
I'm trying to warn you and melo but whatever. Don't say that I didn't have your best interests in mind if you get what you want.
I was speaking in general about the kd hate... but I did quote you so my bad.
I'm pretty confident I can make this brazen I want kd cause it's not gonna happen. If by some wild chance it does happen and it doesn't work out I'll pivot to I never wanted him and blame meLo.
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spree8 wrote:Guano wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Mikal doesn't have a no trade clause, he can be moved, but the point is once you start trading core pieces you end up playing a shell game if every move isn't perfect.
I honestly loath the gm part of realgm.
It's like we're playing the Sims or some dorky game. Cause we're not trading for kd. It's all make believe.
That’s the part about this place that I loved as a kid and kept me coming back here lol.
But hey, that’s what everyone said to me last year about trading for Mikal and then it happened… you never know!
You're not wrong. Crazy things happen.
Like trading Randle. I thought he was a lifer.
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3toheadmelo wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:I'm still waiting for you to answer where was he a negative in the playoffs
You've been using playoff net rating to make your case against KAT, while turning around to talk up about how great KD is?
In the playoffs KD was -18.8 net rating last season against the Wolves, he had a 129.4 DRTG which was the worst on the entire team, the corpse of Eric Gordon had a lower DRTG than him and he was playing 30mpg. KAT/McDaniels were 15-28 when guarded by him, they were his primary matchups. He couldn't guard anyone on the Wolves.
He had a -0.4 net rating the year before that. So in one thread, KAT is the devil for his playoff net rating, in the other KD is the savior for his negative net rating with the Suns.
KD's career average net rating in the playoffs: +2.5
KAT's career average net rating in the playoffs: -6.6
To act like KD is worse is comical![]()
3toheadmelo wrote:I'm still waiting for you to answer where was he a negative in the playoffs
You were shown where he's been negative his last 3 playoffs, you respond by moving the goal posts to career numbers. We're not talking about trading for in the prime of his career KD, we're talking about trading for the KD that is 2-12 in his last 3 playoffs, had a 129.4 DRTG, net negative and is turning 37. He was worse than KAT when they played one another, guarded one another and got swept.

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Guano wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Guano wrote:
The Suns fcked up by going all in on Beal.... kinda like we did with mikal
Mikal doesn't have a no trade clause, he can be moved, but the point is once you start trading core pieces you end up playing a shell game if every move isn't perfect.
I honestly loath the gm part of realgm.
It's like we're playing the Sims or some dorky game. Cause we're not trading for kd. It's all make believe.
Were either gonna waste another year with a bad marriage between thibs and this roster or bring in a new coach to see if they can unlock the brunson & kat pairing. I'm not getting younger so I hope it's the latter.
This thread is fun, because when we don't get him we can up the thread and torment Melo. You have to be forward-thinking in your hating.
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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Guano wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Mikal doesn't have a no trade clause, he can be moved, but the point is once you start trading core pieces you end up playing a shell game if every move isn't perfect.
I honestly loath the gm part of realgm.
It's like we're playing the Sims or some dorky game. Cause we're not trading for kd. It's all make believe.
Were either gonna waste another year with a bad marriage between thibs and this roster or bring in a new coach to see if they can unlock the brunson & kat pairing. I'm not getting younger so I hope it's the latter.
This thread is fun, because when we don't get him we can up the thread and torment Melo. You have to be forward-thinking in your hating.
Oh, you don't think team villain is going to bring up kd in the gamethreads next round when we're getting dog walked.
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Guano wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Guano wrote:
I honestly loath the gm part of realgm.
It's like we're playing the Sims or some dorky game. Cause we're not trading for kd. It's all make believe.
Were either gonna waste another year with a bad marriage between thibs and this roster or bring in a new coach to see if they can unlock the brunson & kat pairing. I'm not getting younger so I hope it's the latter.
This thread is fun, because when we don't get him we can up the thread and torment Melo. You have to be forward-thinking in your hating.
Oh, you don't think team villain is going to bring up kd in the gamethreads next round when we're getting dog walked.
Team Villain got hit with RICO acts on here (Derailment / EX thread), they're a shell of their former selves, and it's basically just one person. Their corners been indicted, their supply chain fell apart, all their soldiers with guns like Mentality are locked up. Criminal enterprises like that have a short shelf life, plus......
