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Re: PG: 1-2-3 Cancun 

Post#21 » by Ctownbulls » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:21 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:We have two players to build with. Buzelis and Giddey. The rest can go.

I don’t care if it makes us worse I never want to see Vuc play for this team again. Possibly the worst defender in Bulls history.

Coby is completely useless if he isn’t scoring at an elite level…bye.
Still not sure Giddey is a piece. He needs the ball a lot to effective and he's not good enough to be the primary.

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Post#22 » by Shill » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:21 am

Coby White is a microwave-type offensive player that doesn't do much else.

You can't lock him in next to Giddey.

Everybody but Matas and Giddey should be on the block.
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Re: PG: 1-2-3 Cancun 

Post#23 » by dukeespn » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:21 am

Imagine delusional FO lowering the odds to get a real good draft prospect just to have one terrible play-in game.

That's what AKME keep doing with bunch of one-way players who can't defend against hard competitions(MIA is really not hard competition this season though lol). They must love being stuck with non core players.

I can't wait them to overpay for Giddey and refuse to sell non core players again just to make another meaningless play-in games next season!
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Post#24 » by Red8911 » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:22 am

GoBlue72391 wrote:You can't build around Coby and Giddey. If you do, this is the outcome you're looking at year after year.

Giddey can be a key building block, but not on a max contract.

We have a whole off season now to analyze all this but I think best case scenario would be to keep Giddey/Coby/ Matas and someway somehow add a star. That would be a legit team.

I do agree though if Giddey gets max or anything close it would hurt their chances to build a better team. Let’s hope the Nets back off this offseason so he doesn’t get overpaid by the bulls
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Post#25 » by Dan Z » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:22 am

HoopsterJones wrote:3 years in a row losing in the play in game. SMH


I wouldn't be surprised if AK cites the Bulls record (in that later part of the season) and says "let's run it back!".
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Post#26 » by _txchilibowl_ » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:23 am

See Red indeed.
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Post#27 » by t-time » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:23 am

I really enjoyed the final 25 games of the season.

Having said that tonight was a brutal way to go out and a nice reminder on how far away we actually are. I am glad Williams scored a big fat zero, it matches his contribution to the team this season.
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Post#28 » by Shill » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:23 am

Ctownbulls wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:We have two players to build with. Buzelis and Giddey. The rest can go.

I don’t care if it makes us worse I never want to see Vuc play for this team again. Possibly the worst defender in Bulls history.

Coby is completely useless if he isn’t scoring at an elite level…bye.
Still not sure Giddey is a piece. He needs the ball a lot to effective and he's not good enough to be the primary.

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I think he's well-rounded enough to be worth it.

And he's only 22 years old.
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Post#29 » by Shill » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:24 am

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GoBlue72391 wrote:You can't build around Coby and Giddey. If you do, this is the outcome you're looking at year after year.

Giddey can be a key building block, but not on a max contract.

We have a whole off season now to analyze all this but I think best case scenario would be to keep Giddey/Coby/ Matas and someway somehow add a star. That would be a legit team.

I do agree though if Giddey gets max or anything close it would hurt their chances to build a better team. Let’s hope the Nets back off this offseason so he doesn’t get overpaid by the bulls




We need to find a taker for Coby.

He and Giddey are not a playoff backcourt.
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Re: PG: 1-2-3 Cancun 

Post#30 » by Jcool0 » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:25 am

Ctownbulls wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:We have two players to build with. Buzelis and Giddey. The rest can go.

I don’t care if it makes us worse I never want to see Vuc play for this team again. Possibly the worst defender in Bulls history.

Coby is completely useless if he isn’t scoring at an elite level…bye.
Still not sure Giddey is a piece. He needs the ball a lot to effective and he's not good enough to be the primary.

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He had 25 points 10 rebounds and 4 assists with an injured hand.
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Post#31 » by Ice Man » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:25 am

weneeda2guard wrote:Will this be the game that finally gets Billy Donovan outta here? Heat came with defensive adjustments and a game plan and we looked like we would have in any regular season game. What exactly was our strategy here? Heat revved up and we did nothing to counter.


I don't think there's much reason to criticize Billy on offense. The Bulls bricked their 3s and were visibly nervous. Billy didn't do anything to make Coby pee himself. But defensively ... yeah. The first half was flat-out embarrassing. My God, step up and challenge a shot.
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Post#32 » by GoBlue72391 » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:25 am

weneeda2guard wrote:Will this be the game that finally gets Billy Donovan outta here? Heat came with defensive adjustments and a game plan and we looked like we would have in any regular season game. What exactly was our strategy here? Heat revved up and we did nothing to counter.

But I'm not upset because honestly losing does better for us right now.

We had no bench with all our injuries and our "franchise players" didn't show up. I'm not defending Billy at all, but this was doomed from the start.
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Post#33 » by WindyCityBorn » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:25 am

Ctownbulls wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:We have two players to build with. Buzelis and Giddey. The rest can go.

I don’t care if it makes us worse I never want to see Vuc play for this team again. Possibly the worst defender in Bulls history.

Coby is completely useless if he isn’t scoring at an elite level…bye.
Still not sure Giddey is a piece. He needs the ball a lot to effective and he's not good enough to be the primary.

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He doesn’t need to be the only guy with the ball. He just can’t play next to Harden/SGA/Young type that everything runs through. I don’t see us getting anyone like that so not really an issue to worry about now.
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Re: PG: 1-2-3 Cancun 

Post#34 » by Dan Z » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:26 am

dukeespn wrote:Imagine delusional FO lowering the odds to get a real good draft prospect just to have one terrible play-in game.

That's what AKME keep doing with bunch of one-way players who can't defend against hard competitions(MIA is really not hard competition this season though lol). They must love being stuck with non core players.

I can't wait them to overpay for Giddey and refuse to sell non core players again just to make another meaningless play-in games next season!


None of that would surprise me. I just hope that Giddey continues to improve. If not then he might not look so good on a big contract.
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Re: PG: 1-2-3 Cancun 

Post#35 » by _txchilibowl_ » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:26 am

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Ctownbulls wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:We have two players to build with. Buzelis and Giddey. The rest can go.

I don’t care if it makes us worse I never want to see Vuc play for this team again. Possibly the worst defender in Bulls history.

Coby is completely useless if he isn’t scoring at an elite level…bye.
Still not sure Giddey is a piece. He needs the ball a lot to effective and he's not good enough to be the primary.

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He had 25 points 10 rebounds and 4 assists with an injured hand.



He had to have given up at least that same stat line on defense....
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Re: PG: 1-2-3 Cancun 

Post#36 » by Red8911 » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:27 am

Tough game, bulls didn’t come out ready in the first half, Miami did went up 20 and that cost the game and ended their season.

Second half they were better and almost brought it back but Miami hit back. It’s a shame Bulls deserved to at least make the playoffs this season.

Now the only positive is they will have a 2-3 higher pick.
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Re: PG: 1-2-3 Cancun 

Post#37 » by Ctownbulls » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:27 am

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Ctownbulls wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:We have two players to build with. Buzelis and Giddey. The rest can go.

I don’t care if it makes us worse I never want to see Vuc play for this team again. Possibly the worst defender in Bulls history.

Coby is completely useless if he isn’t scoring at an elite level…bye.
Still not sure Giddey is a piece. He needs the ball a lot to effective and he's not good enough to be the primary.

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He had 25 points 10 rebounds and 4 assists with an injured hand.
So? I love Giddey but if he has the ball a majority of the game I don't see how you really compete against teams that have top 10 players. Once the Bulls get a top 10 player, if they ever do, then Giddey is going to be off the ball in critical moments.

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Re: PG: 1-2-3 Cancun 

Post#38 » by GoBlue72391 » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:27 am

Ctownbulls wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:We have two players to build with. Buzelis and Giddey. The rest can go.

I don’t care if it makes us worse I never want to see Vuc play for this team again. Possibly the worst defender in Bulls history.

Coby is completely useless if he isn’t scoring at an elite level…bye.
Still not sure Giddey is a piece. He needs the ball a lot to effective and he's not good enough to be the primary.

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Giddey is a piece, but it's dependant on the price.

He's certainly not a franchise player.
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Re: PG: 1-2-3 Cancun 

Post#39 » by GoBlue72391 » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:28 am

Red8911 wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:You can't build around Coby and Giddey. If you do, this is the outcome you're looking at year after year.

Giddey can be a key building block, but not on a max contract.

We have a whole off season now to analyze all this but I think best case scenario would be to keep Giddey/Coby/ Matas and someway somehow add a star. That would be a legit team.

I do agree though if Giddey gets max or anything close it would hurt their chances to build a better team. Let’s hope the Nets back off this offseason so he doesn’t get overpaid by the bulls

Are we gonna wish for a star or?
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Re: PG: 1-2-3 Cancun 

Post#40 » by Ice Man » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:29 am

Jcool0 wrote:He had 25 points 10 rebounds and 4 assists with an injured hand.


He is 22 years old, asked for the first time to lead an offense in the post-season. And he was the team's best starter on the night. OK that last part is a low bar, but still that's a pretty good result. If' I am handing out criticism, Josh is going to have to wait behind a few other players.

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