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Post#821 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:59 pm

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Mr B wrote:A draft like this would solve a lot of problems for the Cowboys.

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Love Walter Nolan !! :thumbsup:

Nolen is a good player. But teams will pass on him because of his character. He's immature. The guy's a diva.

Did you show up to be a total buzz kill? :droop:
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Post#822 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:03 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Love Walter Nolan !! :thumbsup:

Nolen is a good player. But teams will pass on him because of his character. He's immature. The guy's a diva.

Did you show up to be a total buzz kill? :droop:

I'm just giving you backstory on him. Why he will fall in the draft.

He has played at six different programs in the past seven years dating back to his time in high school. Is known to quit when times get tough. That's his reputation.


According to Fowler, some scouting reports for Nolen mention he has a "history of walking off the practice field mid-session due to frustration."


Not great.
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Post#823 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:07 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Nolen is a good player. But teams will pass on him because of his character. He's immature. The guy's a diva.

Did you show up to be a total buzz kill? :droop:

I'm just giving you backstory on him. Why he will fall in the draft.

He has played at six different programs in the past seven years dating back to his time in high school. Is known to quit when times get tough. That's his reputation.

Not exactly someone you want.

In the chart Mr. B. provided, he has the Cowboys taking him at #44. I have him rated higher than that. I said I like him. Would I draft him, not sure. I have other players I like better. At 44, that would be a good pick for the Cowboys.
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Post#824 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:11 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Did you show up to be a total buzz kill? :droop:

I'm just giving you backstory on him. Why he will fall in the draft.

He has played at six different programs in the past seven years dating back to his time in high school. Is known to quit when times get tough. That's his reputation.

Not exactly someone you want.

In the chart Mr. B. provided, he has the Cowboys taking him at #44. I have him rated higher than that. I said I like him. Would I draft him, not sure. I have other players I like better. At 44, that would be a good pick for the Cowboys.

Do you want them to draft someone with character issues? Hasn't that been your biggest issue with Jerry?? Him taking guys in the past with issues.

Nolen has a ton of red flags. So, he could fall to the 2nd round. But again, you're taking a gamble with him.
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Post#825 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:18 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:I'm just giving you backstory on him. Why he will fall in the draft.

He has played at six different programs in the past seven years dating back to his time in high school. Is known to quit when times get tough. That's his reputation.

Not exactly someone you want.

In the chart Mr. B. provided, he has the Cowboys taking him at #44. I have him rated higher than that. I said I like him. Would I draft him, not sure. I have other players I like better. At 44, that would be a good pick for the Cowboys.

Do you want them to draft someone with character issues? Hasn't that been your biggest issue with Jerry?? Him taking guys in the past with issues.

Nolen has a ton of red flags. So, he could fall to the 2nd round. But again, you're taking a gamble with him.

To be honest I'm more interested in in what Kansas City is focused on. I'm more than burned out trying to figure out Jerry after 3 decades. Speaking of character issues,isn't Jerry the biggest issue?
But If I'm the Gm of the cowboys, I look to trade down a bit and draft a top OL (Simmons or Banks) and then draft the RB Hampton. But Damn, the Cowboys also do need some DT's.
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Post#826 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:33 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:In the chart Mr. B. provided, he has the Cowboys taking him at #44. I have him rated higher than that. I said I like him. Would I draft him, not sure. I have other players I like better. At 44, that would be a good pick for the Cowboys.

Do you want them to draft someone with character issues? Hasn't that been your biggest issue with Jerry?? Him taking guys in the past with issues.

Nolen has a ton of red flags. So, he could fall to the 2nd round. But again, you're taking a gamble with him.

To be honest I'm more interested in in what Kansas City is focused on. I'm more than burned out trying to figure out Jerry after 3 decades. But If I'm the Gm of the cowboys, I look to trade down a bit and draft a top OL (Simmons or Banks) and then draft the RB Hampton. But Damn, the Cowboys also do need some DT's.

Just fyi, Walter Nolen, James Pearce & Mike Green are guys who will fall because of character.

Nolen & Pearce are both bad apples. Green has two sexual assault allegations in his past, which should cause him to fall.
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Post#827 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:38 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Do you want them to draft someone with character issues? Hasn't that been your biggest issue with Jerry?? Him taking guys in the past with issues.

Nolen has a ton of red flags. So, he could fall to the 2nd round. But again, you're taking a gamble with him.

To be honest I'm more interested in in what Kansas City is focused on. I'm more than burned out trying to figure out Jerry after 3 decades. But If I'm the Gm of the cowboys, I look to trade down a bit and draft a top OL (Simmons or Banks) and then draft the RB Hampton. But Damn, the Cowboys also do need some DT's.

Just fyi, Walter Nolen, James Pearce & Mike Green are guys who will fall because of character.

Nolen & Pearce are both bad apples. Green has two sexual assault allegations in his past, which should cause him to fall.

Except for Nolan, I don't have any of those other guys on any of my lists.
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Post#828 » by Mr B » Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:10 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Nolen is a good player. But teams will pass on him because of his character. He's immature. The guy's a diva.

Did you show up to be a total buzz kill? :droop:

I'm just giving you backstory on him. Why he will fall in the draft.

He has played at six different programs in the past seven years dating back to his time in high school. Is known to quit when times get tough. That's his reputation.


According to Fowler, some scouting reports for Nolen mention he has a "history of walking off the practice field mid-session due to frustration."


Not great.

His talent is immense though. If he pans out he’d be worth more than a 2nd round pick. Because of his off field issues that is why I draft a couple more DT’s in this mock. My goal would be to complete fix the Cowboys OL and DL.
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Post#829 » by Jaydubb » Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:16 pm

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Mr B wrote:A draft like this would solve a lot of problems for the Cowboys.

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Love Walter Nolan !! :thumbsup:

Nolen is a good player. But teams will pass on him because of his character. He's immature & a diva.

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Post#830 » by Jaydubb » Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:17 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Nolen is a good player. But teams will pass on him because of his character. He's immature. The guy's a diva.

Did you show up to be a total buzz kill? :droop:

I'm just giving you backstory on him. Why he will fall in the draft.

He has played at six different programs in the past seven years dating back to his time in high school. Is known to quit when times get tough. That's his reputation.


According to Fowler, some scouting reports for Nolen mention he has a "history of walking off the practice field mid-session due to frustration."


Not great.

Ewwww quitting. No bueno. Keep him away from the eagles
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Post#831 » by QB_Eagles » Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:51 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Nolen is a good player. But teams will pass on him because of his character. He's immature. The guy's a diva.

Did you show up to be a total buzz kill? :droop:

I'm just giving you backstory on him. Why he will fall in the draft.

He has played at six different programs in the past seven years dating back to his time in high school. Is known to quit when times get tough. That's his reputation.


According to Fowler, some scouting reports for Nolen mention he has a "history of walking off the practice field mid-session due to frustration."


Not great.

"Is known to quit when times get tough."

Perfect fit for the Cowboys.
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Post#832 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:59 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Did you show up to be a total buzz kill? :droop:

I'm just giving you backstory on him. Why he will fall in the draft.

He has played at six different programs in the past seven years dating back to his time in high school. Is known to quit when times get tough. That's his reputation.


According to Fowler, some scouting reports for Nolen mention he has a "history of walking off the practice field mid-session due to frustration."


Not great.

His talent is immense though. If he pans out he’d be worth more than a 2nd round pick. Because of his off field issues that is why I draft a couple more DT’s in this mock. My goal would be to complete fix the Cowboys OL and DL.

Okay, but you're getting a guy who has jumped from team to team because of that reputation.

Is he really worth it? When they're as so many other options. This is a deep DT class.

Plus, the Cowboys have already whiffed recently on a guy like Mazi. When there we're red flags with him too.
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Post#833 » by Mr B » Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:14 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:I'm just giving you backstory on him. Why he will fall in the draft.

He has played at six different programs in the past seven years dating back to his time in high school. Is known to quit when times get tough. That's his reputation.




Not great.

His talent is immense though. If he pans out he’d be worth more than a 2nd round pick. Because of his off field issues that is why I draft a couple more DT’s in this mock. My goal would be to complete fix the Cowboys OL and DL.

Okay, but you're getting a guy who has jumped from team to team because of that reputation.

Is he really worth it? When they're as so many other options. This is a deep DT class.

Plus, the Cowboys have already whiffed recently on a guy like Mazi. When there we're red flags with him too.

I’m trying to fix a broken DL not build a team of nice guys. If they are able to get a 1st round talent in the 2nd round it’s not a terrible move. As I also stated it’s why I drafted several other DT’s in that mock.

The fact is that Nolan is going to get drafted. A team that is desperate for DL talent is the most likely to take a risk on him. Why not Dallas? And you can’t let drafting Mazi force you from trying to find good DL help. You only compound the Mazi mistake by never drafting another DLineman again.
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Post#834 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:19 pm

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Mr B wrote:His talent is immense though. If he pans out he’d be worth more than a 2nd round pick. Because of his off field issues that is why I draft a couple more DT’s in this mock. My goal would be to complete fix the Cowboys OL and DL.

Okay, but you're getting a guy who has jumped from team to team because of that reputation.

Is he really worth it? When they're as so many other options. This is a deep DT class.

Plus, the Cowboys have already whiffed recently on a guy like Mazi. When there we're red flags with him too.

I’m trying to fix a broken DL not build a team of nice guys. If they are able to get a 1st round talent in the 2nd round it’s not a terrible move. As I also stated it’s why I drafted several other DT’s in that mock.

The fact is that Nolan is going to get drafted. A team that is desperate for DL talent is the most likely to take a risk on him. Why not Dallas? And you can’t let drafting Mazi force you from trying to find good DL help. You only compound the Mazi mistake by never drafting another DLineman again.

This DT class is too good for me to take that gamble. There are handful of other guys I would take before him if I'm being honest.
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Post#835 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:36 pm

WTF is happening in here exactly? Is BJJ a Cowboy's fan again?
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Post#836 » by Mr B » Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:57 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Okay, but you're getting a guy who has jumped from team to team because of that reputation.

Is he really worth it? When they're as so many other options. This is a deep DT class.

Plus, the Cowboys have already whiffed recently on a guy like Mazi. When there we're red flags with him too.

I’m trying to fix a broken DL not build a team of nice guys. If they are able to get a 1st round talent in the 2nd round it’s not a terrible move. As I also stated it’s why I drafted several other DT’s in that mock.

The fact is that Nolan is going to get drafted. A team that is desperate for DL talent is the most likely to take a risk on him. Why not Dallas? And you can’t let drafting Mazi force you from trying to find good DL help. You only compound the Mazi mistake by never drafting another DLineman again.

This DT class is too good for me to take that gamble. There are handful of other guys I would take before him if I'm being honest.

See and that’s why I do take the gamble, because there are so many good DT’s. Also the fact that the Cowboys have 10 picks. If they only had 7 picks I might not take that gamble. I’m looking at drafting another DT or two. There are several DT’s that will likely be available in the 6th or 7th round that I would take even after drafting Nolen.
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Post#837 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Apr 17, 2025 11:55 pm

Mr B wrote:
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Mr B wrote:I’m trying to fix a broken DL not build a team of nice guys. If they are able to get a 1st round talent in the 2nd round it’s not a terrible move. As I also stated it’s why I drafted several other DT’s in that mock.

The fact is that Nolan is going to get drafted. A team that is desperate for DL talent is the most likely to take a risk on him. Why not Dallas? And you can’t let drafting Mazi force you from trying to find good DL help. You only compound the Mazi mistake by never drafting another DLineman again.

This DT class is too good for me to take that gamble. There are handful of other guys I would take before him if I'm being honest.

See and that’s why I do take the gamble, because there are so many good DT’s. Also the fact that the Cowboys have 10 picks. If they only had 7 picks I might not take that gamble. I’m looking at drafting another DT or two. There are several DT’s that will likely be available in the 6th or 7th round that I would take even after drafting Nolen.

Especially if he falls to 44. That would be a great pick. I believe he will go in the first round. I have him going in the first round.
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Post#838 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:37 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:WTF is happening in here exactly? Is BJJ a Cowboy's fan again?

Don't get your panties in a big up roar. I've labeled myself as an original pre Jerry Jones era Cowboys fan. Not much of a fan for what has been going on the past 3 decades. :cuddle :kiss
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Post#839 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:55 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:WTF is happening in here exactly? Is BJJ a Cowboy's fan again?

Don't get your panties in a big up roar. I've labeled myself as an original pre Jerry Jones era Cowboys fan. Not much of a fan for what has been going on the past 3 decades. :cuddle :kiss

Okay. Maybe try something different this time around, like actually rooting for the team to do well.
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Post#840 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:57 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:
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Micah Prescott wrote:WTF is happening in here exactly? Is BJJ a Cowboy's fan again?

Don't get your panties in a big up roar. I've labeled myself as an original pre Jerry Jones era Cowboys fan. Not much of a fan for what has been going on the past 3 decades. :cuddle :kiss

Okay. Maybe try something different this time around, like actually rooting for the team to do well.

Where's the fun in that?
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