The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 1

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So in addition to all his other unlikable qualities, you can say that Matt Ishbia is a fcking liar too. Numerous NBA sources including Shams, Woj etc all have reported that Ishbia is the one running the show and he explicitly overruled James Jones on the trade for KD. These NBA sources get their info directly from teams or agents involved in contract or trade negotiations with the Suns so they know who the decision maker is for other teams front office decisions. Well reputed guys like Shams and Woj aren’t gonna make up lies to slander a guy like Ishbia…he’s too small a fish in the overall scope of their work. But I’m sure some dumb*** fans will try to say that.

Now suddenly he doesn’t want to be accountable for those decisions anymore after seeing how awful it worked out.

What a fcking p**ssy.

F*** Matt Ishbia! I’m done watching the Suns currently going on strike and every suns fan should join me. Sooner or later only suns fan in attendance will be Saberaster.

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Be interesting to see what changes

But if he doesn't call Bob Myers - he truly is not a very good owner.

[SunsRback4Good]

If James Jones isn’t fired the Suns are toast. He needs to be canned ASAP!

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Thanks for posting most of the info.

I think the word used by Gambo regarding the FO is revamping the FO. We probably will hire someone over Bartelstein and James Jones.

I like that Ishbia said that is embarrassing for the organization to end 36-46, I think that the roster was much better than that too.

Defense and grit are two skills that we didn't have on the roster other than Dunn and Okogie at the start of the season. Royce O'Neale...maybe.

If those are the skills that we will prioritize for our new HC and roster I expect us to hire someone like Ivey. That's the first name that comes to my mind.

Players...OG Anunoby + Josh Hart makes sense if we are trading KD to the Knicks.

Well...those are my first thoughts after reading some infor from the press conference.

[Sunsdeuce]

This should be very interesting! I wonder if anyone has the balls to ask him if 26 other teams would still trade places, picks, rosters with us!

That should be the first question asked but I doubt the soft ass Suns media will do it. I’m including Gerald in that by the way.

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Kevin Durant’s sensitivity on social media is rubbing off on the Suns reporters too.

What a pathetic and embarrassing response by Gerald. Act professional if you want to be taken serious.

[Sunsdeuce]

If James Jones isn’t fired the Suns are toast. He needs to be canned ASAP!

His contract runs out in June. No need to fire him at this point. There have been no contract talk between him and Ishbia.

[Ghost of Kleine]

If James Jones isn’t fired the Suns are toast. He needs to be canned ASAP!

His typical non-answers and deflective blame (taking no legitimate direct accountability) is very troubling in that he's clearly not intending to get rid of either Jones or Bartlestein for any legitimate GM. He'll install more useless faux GM POBO "Yes men" / insulatory shields to keep taking blame for his ineptitude and just continue to try to play 2K GM behind the scenes because of his narcissistic ego! Sad to say, our future is so completely cooked!

[Sunsdeuce]

I’ve learned Ishbia is a horrible leader. He might have made billions in the loan industry but that doesn’t make him a leader or a decent human being. Leaders set the example at the top. He has not once set a positive work environment or set an inspiring leadership example to build a winning culture.

Worse off, he does not acknowledge his own mistakes. That’s the worst quality he has.

[BobbieL]

If James Jones isn’t fired the Suns are toast. He needs to be canned ASAP!

Jones should be fired
Josh can stick around if there is a real VP of Basketball Ops - -Bob Myers

And another thing - maybe they should decide on Booker when the GM is in the room and not do anything until the GM has a say

[Sunsdeuce]

If James Jones isn’t fired the Suns are toast. He needs to be canned ASAP!

His typical non-answers and deflective blame (taking no legitimate direct accountability) is very troubling in that he's clearly not intending to get rid of either Jones or Bartlestein for any legitimate GM. He'll install more useless faux GM POBO "Yes men" / insulatory shields to keep taking blame for his ineptitude and just continue to try to play 2K GM behind the scenes because of his narcissistic ego! Sad to say, our future is so completely cooked!

I get that Jones has not done or been responsible for anything that has happened while Ishbia been an owner. But that does not justify his horrible decisions pre-Ishbia that Jones wasted draft picks, emptied out the asset cupboard, fumbled trades (remember the national embarrassing trade where Dillion Brooks was confused by the suns so Oubre came to the suns which was not who Jones wanted to get).

Jones set this trend back years well before Ishbia. Jones just inherited a great young core and got credit for its success. Other than trading for Chris Paul (who was deemed untradable because of his age and crappy contract. Basically no team wanted him), Jones was a terrible GM.

[Ghost of Kleine]

If James Jones isn’t fired the Suns are toast. He needs to be canned ASAP!

His contract runs out in June. No need to fire him at this point. There have been no contract talk between him and Ishbia.

I'm very skeptical that Ishbia will actually not resign Jones! And fire or demote Bartlestein! Everything he's said and done so far shows a pattern of them likely being brought back. And if so, then......................................

[Saberestar]

BTW, until last night Gambo was saying that Beal was gone for sure but KD wasn't a sure thing, but he was 95% gone.

Last night was the first time that he said that KD is gone for sure. So KD and Beal gone.

It's gonna be super interesting the new roster and who is gonna be the best player next to Booker.

[BobbieL]

BTW, until last night Gambo was saying that Beal was gone for sure but KD wasn't a sure thing, but he was 95% gone.

Last night was the first time that he said that KD is gone for sure. So KD and Beal gone.

It's gonna be super interesting the new roster and who is gonna be the best player next to Booker.

Interesting to see the Beal decision
My hope is that he is bought out and not stretched or traded - he has negative value

As for building around Booker
I am intrigued as well

[Ghost of Kleine]

If James Jones isn’t fired the Suns are toast. He needs to be canned ASAP!

His typical non-answers and deflective blame (taking no legitimate direct accountability) is very troubling in that he's clearly not intending to get rid of either Jones or Bartlestein for any legitimate GM. He'll install more useless faux GM POBO "Yes men" / insulatory shields to keep taking blame for his ineptitude and just continue to try to play 2K GM behind the scenes because of his narcissistic ego! Sad to say, our future is so completely cooked!

I get that Jones has not done or been responsible for anything that has happened while Ishbia been an owner. But that does not justify his horrible decisions pre-Ishbia that Jones wasted draft picks, emptied out the asset cupboard, fumbled trades (remember the national embarrassing trade where Dillion Brooks was confused by the suns so Oubre came to the suns which was not who Jones wanted to get).

Jones set this trend back years well before Ishbia. Jones just inherited a great young core and got credit for its success. Other than trading for Chris Paul (who was deemed untradable because of his age and crappy contract. Basically no team wanted him), Jones was a terrible GM.

And even the Paul trade was mostly brokered by Paul using his leverage to steer himself here to play with Booker. Jones basically only had to match salaries and sign off on the deal. But true to form for the self-admitted antagonist to the draft, Young, athletic talent, etc. He casually threw in a 1st round pick because he loathes draft picks and the draft and prefers older vet min options more. So my point is that even the Paul trade was a lobbed soft ball situation for him, and he shouldn't really be receiving credit for that towards his prowess/ acumen as a GM.

[Sunsdeuce]

BTW, until last night Gambo was saying that Beal was gone for sure but KD wasn't a sure thing, but he was 95% gone.

Last night was the first time that he said that KD is gone for sure. So KD and Beal gone.

It's gonna be super interesting the new roster and who is gonna be the best player next to Booker.

The captain obvious KD is gone is well known national wide. Gambo regurgitating national news as his own personal breaking news never stops being embarrassing by gambo. He does that crap all the time.

Beal isn’t a sure bet to be gone. There is a lot of red tape with Beal and his contract. Claiming he “will be gone” is showing how uneducated Gambo is. Knowing Beals value, contract, and market…. A realistic chance of Beal being gone when combining all possible ways to move on is about 40% chance.