2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5

[Dalek]

Why didnt CMB declare for last years draft if it was so weak? Just curious

He was an emerging role player during his freshmen year so if he came out he was probably going to be on a two-way deal. I mentioned him a lot in the draft process last year, just like JT Toppin.

In coming back he became the offensive hub for the team and showed he could be star player. I don't think he anticipating the team being that bad, but it didn't affect his stock. I think he could end up lotto, but at least he will be in the early 20s going to a good team. I was surprised by Toppin, but he must have been impacted by the NIL deals.

[raptor jesus]

CMB's profile tells me I shouldn't like him. Poor shooter, he bullies guys physically at the college level in a way he won't be able to at the next level. Initally, he reminded me of RHJ. But holy toledo he pops on his tape. Generally, I believe that you are who you are as a shooter when you enter the league. Exceptions are rare. But if this guy put together a decent shooting workout, I'd think long and hard about taking him.

[Clutch0z24]

CMB's profile tells me I shouldn't like him. Poor shooter, he bullies guys physically at the college level in a way he won't be able to at the next level. Initally, he reminded me of RHJ. But holy toledo he pops on his tape. Generally, I believe that you are who you are as a shooter when you enter the league. Exceptions are rare. But if this guy put together a decent shooting workout, I'd think long and hard about taking him.

His game you hope he can emulate is Draymond.....A undersized big man with a questionable 3 point shot but a really good defender.....Only thing is his passing game is not as good as Green....But yes the Size is scary for me....He gets by in college because hes posting up smaller players than him or guys he can push around....In the NBA he might be very easy to shut down if you put a strong big man on him....Because if he can't bully you in the paint how else can he really beat you? Tough sell for me because he also would not fit with the team we have....Barnes/Yak/Barrett/CMB playing on the court together would be atrocious on offense.

[Grew]

Anyone thinking of the big men in this draft i think people are underestimating Queen badly....Lots want Khaman.....Queen is worlds ahead of Khaman in many parts of the game its not really close.

Foot Work=Queen
Feel and touch=Queen
Post Moves=Queen
Jump shooting=Queen
Draw Fouls=Queen
Rebounding=Queen
Passing=Queen
Blocking=Khaman
Steals=Queen
Rim Protect=Khaman
Defense=Khaman
Scorer=Queen

I get the want for a rim running defensive big man....But sometimes you have to pick the better player available and imo Queen is worlds ahead of Khaman as a player now and in the future for me....Some people hype up "Hes only been playing basketball for 4 years" For me thats also a bad thing because id much rather have a player who developed skills early rather than still having to develop them while hes in the league...

CMB vs Queen you could make a better case against Queen but Khaman imo is way 2 raw of a big man and i feel hes the one in the top 10 that has the biggest bust potential which is worry some.

Will Khaman even be better than Koloko? real question

I think Koloko is a good comp for Khaman. I was really rooting for him when we drafted him but it was hard to see it. I can see it a little bit more with Khaman. He's probably about 2 inches taller and 20-25 pounds heavier than Koloko while being younger. I think he looks like the better athlete and the smoother basketball player too. So hopefully Khaman won't get pushed around as much as Koloko did, while being the better rim runner/lob catcher. The one thing I think Koloko had over Khaman is shot blocking instincts/timing, I've heard it said before that Khaman wasn't really out to block shots and was more focused on positioning, lane intimidation and not fouling.

I would prefer Queen just because his offensive skillset is so tantalizing. Khaman is still near the top of my board at 7 though. Can't teach that type of size and mobility at the end of the day.

[Clutch0z24]

Anyone thinking of the big men in this draft i think people are underestimating Queen badly....Lots want Khaman.....Queen is worlds ahead of Khaman in many parts of the game its not really close.

Foot Work=Queen
Feel and touch=Queen
Post Moves=Queen
Jump shooting=Queen
Draw Fouls=Queen
Rebounding=Queen
Passing=Queen
Blocking=Khaman
Steals=Queen
Rim Protect=Khaman
Defense=Khaman
Scorer=Queen

I get the want for a rim running defensive big man....But sometimes you have to pick the better player available and imo Queen is worlds ahead of Khaman as a player now and in the future for me....Some people hype up "Hes only been playing basketball for 4 years" For me thats also a bad thing because id much rather have a player who developed skills early rather than still having to develop them while hes in the league...

CMB vs Queen you could make a better case against Queen but Khaman imo is way 2 raw of a big man and i feel hes the one in the top 10 that has the biggest bust potential which is worry some.

Will Khaman even be better than Koloko? real question

I think Koloko is a good comp for Khaman. I was really rooting for him when we drafted him but it was hard to see it. I can see it a little bit more with Khaman. He's probably about 2 inches taller and 20-25 pounds heavier than Koloko while being younger. I think he looks like the better athlete and the smoother basketball player too. So hopefully Khaman won't get pushed around as much as Koloko did, while being the better rim runner/lob catcher. The one thing I think Koloko had over Khaman is shot blocking instincts/timing, I've heard it said before that Khaman wasn't really out to block shots and was more focused on positioning, lane intimidation and not fouling.

I would prefer Queen just because his offensive skillset is so tantalizing. Khaman is still near the top of my board at 7 though. Can't teach that type of size and mobility at the end of the day.

I could be convinced for us to take him if we fall down to 9 and most of the players i like are off the board already....But if we stay at 7 or even 8 and there are more polished NBA ready players on the board still i can't be convinced picking a project after a year of tanking would be a good pick....While i agree we do need the skillset he does give you....But i think you can find it in other ways rather than our top pick we will prolly not have again for a while doesn't sit well with me....His offensive game is so far behind compared to players available its hard for me to get behind the pick....

[Brinbe]

lol I've definitely advocated for Queen just as hard as Maluach. They're both uniquely interesting prospects and you don't have to denigrate one to big up the other.

The only ones I don't really like in the top 10 grouping are Jak and Tre since I think they'll both be off-ball shooters at the next level with questionable defense/athleticism and I don't think that archetype really contributes much to winning. I'd rather develop Walter who can score and at least has shown he can defend his position.

Ace is sort of in that same category too but at least he has the size to make up for things but his red flags are hard to ignore too.

[Clutch0z24]

lol I've definitely advocated for Queen just as hard as Maluach. They're both uniquely interesting prospects and you don't have to denigrate one to big up the other.

The only ones I don't really like in the top 10 grouping are Jak and Tre since I think they'll both be off-ball shooters at the next level with questionable defense/athleticism and I don't think that archetype really contributes much to winning. I'd rather develop Walter who can score and at least has shown he can defend his position.

Ace is sort of in that same category too but at least he has the size to make up for things but his red flags are hard to ignore too.

You have to break prospects down to see who should be ahead of who when the decision comes....Me personally i think Queen might be gone when we pick anyways but if you do not Compare the players you could end up making the wrong pick....Potential is a thing teams draft many times and a majority of them become busts...I go skill > Potential everyday of the week...But thats just me.

[Brinbe]

lol I've definitely advocated for Queen just as hard as Maluach. They're both uniquely interesting prospects and you don't have to denigrate one to big up the other.

The only ones I don't really like in the top 10 grouping are Jak and Tre since I think they'll both be off-ball shooters at the next level with questionable defense/athleticism and I don't think that archetype really contributes much to winning. I'd rather develop Walter who can score and at least has shown he can defend his position.

Ace is sort of in that same category too but at least he has the size to make up for things but his red flags are hard to ignore too.

You have to break prospects down to see who should be ahead of who when the decision comes....Me personally i think Queen might be gone when we pick anyways but if you do not Compare the players you could end up making the wrong pick....Potential is a thing teams draft many times and a majority of them become busts...I go skill > Potential everyday of the week...But thats just me.

For sure, I think I'd put Queen ahead too since he can potentially be an offensive hub, same with Fears. But the potential stuff you're talking about is kinda nonsense since they're all being drafted on potential. It's a nebulous empty term. What you're talking about is just individual preference, which is fair. We're all gonna prefer certain prospects.

Again, it'll be easier to discuss all this once we know our draft position after the lottery.

[Jcity08]

Im a huge no on Khaman, too many better players that will be available wherever we pick. BPA always.

[Clutch0z24]

lol I've definitely advocated for Queen just as hard as Maluach. They're both uniquely interesting prospects and you don't have to denigrate one to big up the other.

The only ones I don't really like in the top 10 grouping are Jak and Tre since I think they'll both be off-ball shooters at the next level with questionable defense/athleticism and I don't think that archetype really contributes much to winning. I'd rather develop Walter who can score and at least has shown he can defend his position.

Ace is sort of in that same category too but at least he has the size to make up for things but his red flags are hard to ignore too.

You have to break prospects down to see who should be ahead of who when the decision comes....Me personally i think Queen might be gone when we pick anyways but if you do not Compare the players you could end up making the wrong pick....Potential is a thing teams draft many times and a majority of them become busts...I go skill > Potential everyday of the week...But thats just me.

For sure, I think I'd put Queen ahead too since he can potentially be an offensive hub, same with Fears. But the potential stuff you're talking about is kinda nonsense since they're all being drafted on potential. It's a nebulous empty term. What you're talking about is just individual preference, which is fair. We're all gonna prefer certain prospects.

Again, it'll be easier to discuss all this once we know our draft position after the lottery.

What i mean by potential is some players get drafted ahead of players not based off their basketball skills or based off of stats but based off of their "Potential" and what they could look like "IF" they develop all these different skills that they did not show or prove they can even do at the college level.

People get wow'd on a players "Size" "Body" "Measurements" rather than what they can do as a basketball player....And many teams draft them kinda players and make a mistake at the end of the day because they are just not that skilled....Thon Maker, Biyombo , Thabeet,Darko are few that come to my mind....I just don't wanna end up tanking for a pick we badly need to go good for it to be all for nothing.

I am just not a believer in Khaman....I do get the people who are in awe of him though....Just think its too much a gamble for me.

[Dalek]

lol I've definitely advocated for Queen just as hard as Maluach. They're both uniquely interesting prospects and you don't have to denigrate one to big up the other.

The only ones I don't really like in the top 10 grouping are Jak and Tre since I think they'll both be off-ball shooters at the next level with questionable defense/athleticism and I don't think that archetype really contributes much to winning. I'd rather develop Walter who can score and at least has shown he can defend his position.

Ace is sort of in that same category too but at least he has the size to make up for things but his red flags are hard to ignore too.

You have to break prospects down to see who should be ahead of who when the decision comes....Me personally i think Queen might be gone when we pick anyways but if you do not Compare the players you could end up making the wrong pick....Potential is a thing teams draft many times and a majority of them become busts...I go skill > Potential everyday of the week...But thats just me.

For sure, I think I'd put Queen ahead too since he can potentially be an offensive hub, same with Fears. But the potential stuff you're talking about is kinda nonsense since they're all being drafted on potential. It's a nebulous empty term. What you're talking about is just individual preference, which is fair. We're all gonna prefer certain prospects.

Again, it'll be easier to discuss all this once we know our draft position after the lottery.

I think in comparing prospects you have to bring in fit/flexibility to some degree especially with Toronto. We have carved out a system predicated on high energy, trapping defense, scoring in transition, and heavy flex offense with guys who can make plays and cut.

Not saying this as a knock against any of Fears or Queen, but can either of those guys play an off-ball role? Toronto has big man rim protection needs, but between Scottie/Poeltl/Mogbo how many big man handlers does the team need, especially when all three cannot shoot from outside well or at all?

For Fears, does he defend any 1s in the NBA and does he project as a pull-up shooter? We have some serious gaps attacking the rim, which he can help with, but there is some doubt about the weak outside shooting. Not sure I buy his shooting track record to all of a sudden jump.

I'd probably rate Maluach higher for his defensive potential and offensive rebounding and Jase Richardson for his all-around scoring/off-guard potential. I think they can fill into easier niches for Toronto than Fears or Queen who you have to build around their skill set.

[Dalek]

Anyone thinking of the big men in this draft i think people are underestimating Queen badly....Lots want Khaman.....Queen is worlds ahead of Khaman in many parts of the game its not really close.

Foot Work=Queen
Feel and touch=Queen
Post Moves=Queen
Jump shooting=Queen
Draw Fouls=Queen
Rebounding=Queen
Passing=Queen
Blocking=Khaman
Steals=Queen
Rim Protect=Khaman
Defense=Khaman
Scorer=Queen

I get the want for a rim running defensive big man....But sometimes you have to pick the better player available and imo Queen is worlds ahead of Khaman as a player now and in the future for me....Some people hype up "Hes only been playing basketball for 4 years" For me thats also a bad thing because id much rather have a player who developed skills early rather than still having to develop them while hes in the league...

CMB vs Queen you could make a better case against Queen but Khaman imo is way 2 raw of a big man and i feel hes the one in the top 10 that has the biggest bust potential which is worry some.

Will Khaman even be better than Koloko? real question

I think Koloko is a good comp for Khaman. I was really rooting for him when we drafted him but it was hard to see it. I can see it a little bit more with Khaman. He's probably about 2 inches taller and 20-25 pounds heavier than Koloko while being younger. I think he looks like the better athlete and the smoother basketball player too. So hopefully Khaman won't get pushed around as much as Koloko did, while being the better rim runner/lob catcher. The one thing I think Koloko had over Khaman is shot blocking instincts/timing, I've heard it said before that Khaman wasn't really out to block shots and was more focused on positioning, lane intimidation and not fouling.

I would prefer Queen just because his offensive skillset is so tantalizing. Khaman is still near the top of my board at 7 though. Can't teach that type of size and mobility at the end of the day.

Undersized big men scorers are fun to watch, but I have a hard time buying them as championship players. Sabonis just got knocked out of a play-in, let's see how far Sengun goes. Minny has Julius Randle and I think we all know that he will shoot them out of the playoffs if they let him cook too much. Please show me an undersized big man that is a winning player.

I think Derick Queen belongs on Charlotte - The Queen City.

[Grew]

Anyone thinking of the big men in this draft i think people are underestimating Queen badly....Lots want Khaman.....Queen is worlds ahead of Khaman in many parts of the game its not really close.

Foot Work=Queen
Feel and touch=Queen
Post Moves=Queen
Jump shooting=Queen
Draw Fouls=Queen
Rebounding=Queen
Passing=Queen
Blocking=Khaman
Steals=Queen
Rim Protect=Khaman
Defense=Khaman
Scorer=Queen

I get the want for a rim running defensive big man....But sometimes you have to pick the better player available and imo Queen is worlds ahead of Khaman as a player now and in the future for me....Some people hype up "Hes only been playing basketball for 4 years" For me thats also a bad thing because id much rather have a player who developed skills early rather than still having to develop them while hes in the league...

CMB vs Queen you could make a better case against Queen but Khaman imo is way 2 raw of a big man and i feel hes the one in the top 10 that has the biggest bust potential which is worry some.

Will Khaman even be better than Koloko? real question

I think Koloko is a good comp for Khaman. I was really rooting for him when we drafted him but it was hard to see it. I can see it a little bit more with Khaman. He's probably about 2 inches taller and 20-25 pounds heavier than Koloko while being younger. I think he looks like the better athlete and the smoother basketball player too. So hopefully Khaman won't get pushed around as much as Koloko did, while being the better rim runner/lob catcher. The one thing I think Koloko had over Khaman is shot blocking instincts/timing, I've heard it said before that Khaman wasn't really out to block shots and was more focused on positioning, lane intimidation and not fouling.

I would prefer Queen just because his offensive skillset is so tantalizing. Khaman is still near the top of my board at 7 though. Can't teach that type of size and mobility at the end of the day.

I could be convinced for us to take him if we fall down to 9 and most of the players i like are off the board already....But if we stay at 7 or even 8 and there are more polished NBA ready players on the board still i can't be convinced picking a project after a year of tanking would be a good pick....While i agree we do need the skillset he does give you....But i think you can find it in other ways rather than our top pick we will prolly not have again for a while doesn't sit well with me....His offensive game is so far behind compared to players available its hard for me to get behind the pick....

I hear ya. For me after Queen and Fears, everyone has alot of questions. Even Queen and Fears really, they just have too much potential to pass up. Next group would probably be Jase/Khaman and Tre for me.

It would be nice if we could get a lob threat/Rim protector elsewhere, but it seems to be really difficult for this front office to find.

[Clutch0z24]

Anyone thinking of the big men in this draft i think people are underestimating Queen badly....Lots want Khaman.....Queen is worlds ahead of Khaman in many parts of the game its not really close.

Foot Work=Queen
Feel and touch=Queen
Post Moves=Queen
Jump shooting=Queen
Draw Fouls=Queen
Rebounding=Queen
Passing=Queen
Blocking=Khaman
Steals=Queen
Rim Protect=Khaman
Defense=Khaman
Scorer=Queen

I get the want for a rim running defensive big man....But sometimes you have to pick the better player available and imo Queen is worlds ahead of Khaman as a player now and in the future for me....Some people hype up "Hes only been playing basketball for 4 years" For me thats also a bad thing because id much rather have a player who developed skills early rather than still having to develop them while hes in the league...

CMB vs Queen you could make a better case against Queen but Khaman imo is way 2 raw of a big man and i feel hes the one in the top 10 that has the biggest bust potential which is worry some.

Will Khaman even be better than Koloko? real question

I think Koloko is a good comp for Khaman. I was really rooting for him when we drafted him but it was hard to see it. I can see it a little bit more with Khaman. He's probably about 2 inches taller and 20-25 pounds heavier than Koloko while being younger. I think he looks like the better athlete and the smoother basketball player too. So hopefully Khaman won't get pushed around as much as Koloko did, while being the better rim runner/lob catcher. The one thing I think Koloko had over Khaman is shot blocking instincts/timing, I've heard it said before that Khaman wasn't really out to block shots and was more focused on positioning, lane intimidation and not fouling.

I would prefer Queen just because his offensive skillset is so tantalizing. Khaman is still near the top of my board at 7 though. Can't teach that type of size and mobility at the end of the day.

Undersized big men scorers are fun to watch, but I have a hard time buying them as championship players. Sabonis just got knocked out of a play-in, let's see how far Sengun goes. Minny has Julius Randle and I think we all know that he will shoot them out of the playoffs if they let him cook too much. Please show me an undersized big man that is a winning player.

I think Derick Queen belongs on Charlotte - The Queen City.

6 Foot 10 is far from undersized lol....For example AD is 6'9, Joker is 6'11, Bam is 6'9, Sabonis 6'10, Jarrett Allen 6'9 , Turner 6'11, Sengun 6'11 ....This is a normal height for a big man ....Now if you run Queen as a PF....Now he prolly is bigger than most of them....

If your saying 6'10 is undersized the majority of the league is as well....You could knock Queen for not being a high flying athletic player but saying undersized is dumb...

[Grew]

Queen as a third big next to Scottie and Jak seems like a really good fit. If Sabonis had a true impact 7 footer like Jak so he could slide to the 4 in some lineups, the kings would be alot stronger. Sabonis also doesn't have a 4 man like Scottie who can protect the rim a bit for him.

[mtcan]

I think Koloko is a good comp for Khaman. I was really rooting for him when we drafted him but it was hard to see it. I can see it a little bit more with Khaman. He's probably about 2 inches taller and 20-25 pounds heavier than Koloko while being younger. I think he looks like the better athlete and the smoother basketball player too. So hopefully Khaman won't get pushed around as much as Koloko did, while being the better rim runner/lob catcher. The one thing I think Koloko had over Khaman is shot blocking instincts/timing, I've heard it said before that Khaman wasn't really out to block shots and was more focused on positioning, lane intimidation and not fouling.

I would prefer Queen just because his offensive skillset is so tantalizing. Khaman is still near the top of my board at 7 though. Can't teach that type of size and mobility at the end of the day.

Undersized big men scorers are fun to watch, but I have a hard time buying them as championship players. Sabonis just got knocked out of a play-in, let's see how far Sengun goes. Minny has Julius Randle and I think we all know that he will shoot them out of the playoffs if they let him cook too much. Please show me an undersized big man that is a winning player.

I think Derick Queen belongs on Charlotte - The Queen City.

6 Foot 10 is far from undersized lol....For example AD is 6'9, Joker is 6'11, Bam is 6'9, Sabonis 6'10, Jarrett Allen 6'9 , Turner 6'11, Sengun 6'11 ....This is a normal height for a big man ....Now if you run Queen as a PF....Now he prolly is bigger than most of them....

If your saying 6'10 is undersized the majority of the league is as well....You could knock Queen for not being a high flying athletic player but saying undersized is dumb...

I think it's all relative to the latest generation of freaks like Chet, Wemby, Edey, Clingan, etc...the 7+ footers.

That's why I'm kinda intrigued by Maluach's potential. If you can bring him into your organization and develop beyond the typical shot blocking lob catcher...the ball handling, the shooting, the finesse. He's still very much a blank slate having played basketball for like 5 years and still very young at 18. Khaman moves very fluidly for a guy his height. He can stay with his man from all the way out at the point line. He contests shots at the basket effectively with good understanding of verticality.

Question now is...can he expand his game from that? I'm curious to see how Chomche has developed. As Masai said yesterday...it really is too bad Chomche got injured because we would have had a good idea on how a guy like Maluach would come along in the Raptors development program. If you can turn Chomche into a player...Maluach who is year younger and a lot longer would be very interesting project to track.

[Gavin_TDThree]

Queen is a baller! The fit is interesting. I wonder if Queen at the 5 and Barnes at the 4 works? Barnes is a really strong help defender. Queens passing/shooting would fit well with SB as well. I'm coming around to him

[Clutch0z24]

Undersized big men scorers are fun to watch, but I have a hard time buying them as championship players. Sabonis just got knocked out of a play-in, let's see how far Sengun goes. Minny has Julius Randle and I think we all know that he will shoot them out of the playoffs if they let him cook too much. Please show me an undersized big man that is a winning player.

I think Derick Queen belongs on Charlotte - The Queen City.

6 Foot 10 is far from undersized lol....For example AD is 6'9, Joker is 6'11, Bam is 6'9, Sabonis 6'10, Jarrett Allen 6'9 , Turner 6'11, Sengun 6'11 ....This is a normal height for a big man ....Now if you run Queen as a PF....Now he prolly is bigger than most of them....

If your saying 6'10 is undersized the majority of the league is as well....You could knock Queen for not being a high flying athletic player but saying undersized is dumb...

I think it's all relative to the latest generation of freaks like Chet, Wemby, Edey, Clingan, etc...the 7+ footers.

That's why I'm kinda intrigued by Maluach's potential. If you can bring him into your organization and develop beyond the typical shot blocking lob catcher...the ball handling, the shooting, the finesse. He's still very much a blank slate having played basketball for like 5 years and still very young at 18. Khaman moves very fluidly for a guy his height. He can stay with his man from all the way out at the point line. He contests shots at the basket effectively with good understanding of verticality.

Question now is...can he expand his game from that? I'm curious to see how Chomche has developed. As Masai said yesterday...it really is too bad Chomche got injured because we would have had a good idea on how a guy like Maluach would come along in the Raptors development program. If you can turn Chomche into a player...Maluach who is year younger and a lot longer would be very interesting project to track.

Lol you can count on one hand players that are over 7 foot who have that kind of skill set....Porzingis, Chet, Wemby......But the Majority of big men are in that 6"10 to 7 foot range....Again calling Queen undersized when there are more players around his height is still a dumb comment....While Khaman has the size he lacks the skills....There is no world where i see Khaman dribbling the ball up the court and making a sweet pass.....Queen is doing that already....Just in terms of skills Queen is far superior the player....Now in terms of potential....If Khaman ever gets to the level Queen is as an offensive player....You have a case....But thats a big If...

[mtcan]

6 Foot 10 is far from undersized lol....For example AD is 6'9, Joker is 6'11, Bam is 6'9, Sabonis 6'10, Jarrett Allen 6'9 , Turner 6'11, Sengun 6'11 ....This is a normal height for a big man ....Now if you run Queen as a PF....Now he prolly is bigger than most of them....

If your saying 6'10 is undersized the majority of the league is as well....You could knock Queen for not being a high flying athletic player but saying undersized is dumb...

I think it's all relative to the latest generation of freaks like Chet, Wemby, Edey, Clingan, etc...the 7+ footers.

That's why I'm kinda intrigued by Maluach's potential. If you can bring him into your organization and develop beyond the typical shot blocking lob catcher...the ball handling, the shooting, the finesse. He's still very much a blank slate having played basketball for like 5 years and still very young at 18. Khaman moves very fluidly for a guy his height. He can stay with his man from all the way out at the point line. He contests shots at the basket effectively with good understanding of verticality.

Question now is...can he expand his game from that? I'm curious to see how Chomche has developed. As Masai said yesterday...it really is too bad Chomche got injured because we would have had a good idea on how a guy like Maluach would come along in the Raptors development program. If you can turn Chomche into a player...Maluach who is year younger and a lot longer would be very interesting project to track.

Lol you can count on one hand players that are over 7 foot who have that kind of skill set....Porzingis, Chet, Wemby......But the Majority of big men are in that 6"10 to 7 foot range....Again calling Queen undersized when there are more players around his height is still a dumb comment....While Khaman has the size he lacks the skills....There is no world where i see Khaman dribbling the ball up the court and making a sweet pass.....Queen is doing that already....Just in terms of skills Queen is far superior the player....Now in terms of potential....If Khaman ever gets to the level Queen is as an offensive player....You have a case....But thats a big If...

Trust me...I love Derik Queen as a player. Give him the ball at the top of the key and watch him cook and he will deke and spin his way to the basket. Excellent footwork for a guy his size.

But I think Khaman can pick up the dribbling with development. And it is not like he can't shoot...it's just that's not how he was used at Duke. I posted a video earlier in this thread from when he was 16 at Basketball Africa Academy when they interviewed him, Chomche and an African center who is on the Florida Gators (Ruben Chinyelu I believe). Khaman was telling us how at 16...he was working on the 3 pointer and it was Kyle Korver who's mentoring him. So ya...I think he will be able to space the floor and probably very soon.

I said it last year before the lottery and just after the NCAA finals...Zach Edey would show off a 3 pointer and some improved agility at the combine and his stock would rise. And it did.

I think Khaman will show off some shooting at the combine and he might end up going 5-10 in the draft. His floor as a defender and rim protector is already there. A good development program will teach him how to be a more complete player and that could be scary.

Watch on YouTube

Check out how poised he was in the Olympics. In particular...pay attention to how he didn't back down against the Americans. He hit an open 3. He drilled a long 2 with Embiid in his face. He got his hands on the ball and stripped AD at the basket. All this from a 17 year old playing against future hall of famers.

[Brinbe]

I've said this before but this roster isn't nearly to the point where you should really worry or care about fit. We're still firmly in asset accumulation mode. You just take the best player available, period. And guys that can potentially be lead offensive engines, like a Queen or Fears, are especially what most every team aims to get since those are usually star/superstar-level talent.

Those are the guys that potentially draw attention/double teams and open things up for others. And Queen/Fears have the playmaking chops to really take advantage of that.

Most everyone on this roster is expendable and the fit is fungible until they've settled upon actual cornerstone pieces.