2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5

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[Indeed]

I think it's all relative to the latest generation of freaks like Chet, Wemby, Edey, Clingan, etc...the 7+ footers.

That's why I'm kinda intrigued by Maluach's potential. If you can bring him into your organization and develop beyond the typical shot blocking lob catcher...the ball handling, the shooting, the finesse. He's still very much a blank slate having played basketball for like 5 years and still very young at 18. Khaman moves very fluidly for a guy his height. He can stay with his man from all the way out at the point line. He contests shots at the basket effectively with good understanding of verticality.

Question now is...can he expand his game from that? I'm curious to see how Chomche has developed. As Masai said yesterday...it really is too bad Chomche got injured because we would have had a good idea on how a guy like Maluach would come along in the Raptors development program. If you can turn Chomche into a player...Maluach who is year younger and a lot longer would be very interesting project to track.

Lol you can count on one hand players that are over 7 foot who have that kind of skill set....Porzingis, Chet, Wemby......But the Majority of big men are in that 6"10 to 7 foot range....Again calling Queen undersized when there are more players around his height is still a dumb comment....While Khaman has the size he lacks the skills....There is no world where i see Khaman dribbling the ball up the court and making a sweet pass.....Queen is doing that already....Just in terms of skills Queen is far superior the player....Now in terms of potential....If Khaman ever gets to the level Queen is as an offensive player....You have a case....But thats a big If...

Trust me...I love Derik Queen as a player. Give him the ball at the top of the key and watch him cook and he will deke and spin his way to the basket. Excellent footwork for a guy his size.

But I think Khaman can pick up the dribbling with development. And it is not like he can't shoot...it's just that's not how he was used at Duke. I posted a video earlier in this thread from when he was 16 at Basketball Africa Academy when they interviewed him, Chomche and an African center who is on the Florida Gators (Ruben Chinyelu I believe). Khaman was telling us how at 16...he was working on the 3 pointer and it was Kyle Korver who's mentoring him. So ya...I think he will be able to space the floor and probably very soon.

I said it last year before the lottery and just after the NCAA finals...Zach Edey would show off a 3 pointer and some improved agility at the combine and his stock would rise. And it did.

I think Khaman will show off some shooting at the combine and he might end up going 5-10 in the draft. His floor as a defender and rim protector is already there. A good development program will teach him how to be a more complete player and that could be scary.

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Check out how poised he was in the Olympics. In particular...pay attention to how he didn't back down against the Americans. He hit an open 3. He drilled a long 2 with Embiid in his face. He got his hands on the ball and stripped AD at the basket. All this from a 17 year old playing against future hall of famers.

If he cannot pass, he cannot play our offense.
Our offense heavily rely on our big to make plays. And we do not have a three level scoring guard who can generate the looks for a lob threat.

[Clutch0z24]

Lol you can count on one hand players that are over 7 foot who have that kind of skill set....Porzingis, Chet, Wemby......But the Majority of big men are in that 6"10 to 7 foot range....Again calling Queen undersized when there are more players around his height is still a dumb comment....While Khaman has the size he lacks the skills....There is no world where i see Khaman dribbling the ball up the court and making a sweet pass.....Queen is doing that already....Just in terms of skills Queen is far superior the player....Now in terms of potential....If Khaman ever gets to the level Queen is as an offensive player....You have a case....But thats a big If...

Trust me...I love Derik Queen as a player. Give him the ball at the top of the key and watch him cook and he will deke and spin his way to the basket. Excellent footwork for a guy his size.

But I think Khaman can pick up the dribbling with development. And it is not like he can't shoot...it's just that's not how he was used at Duke. I posted a video earlier in this thread from when he was 16 at Basketball Africa Academy when they interviewed him, Chomche and an African center who is on the Florida Gators (Ruben Chinyelu I believe). Khaman was telling us how at 16...he was working on the 3 pointer and it was Kyle Korver who's mentoring him. So ya...I think he will be able to space the floor and probably very soon.

I said it last year before the lottery and just after the NCAA finals...Zach Edey would show off a 3 pointer and some improved agility at the combine and his stock would rise. And it did.

I think Khaman will show off some shooting at the combine and he might end up going 5-10 in the draft. His floor as a defender and rim protector is already there. A good development program will teach him how to be a more complete player and that could be scary.

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Check out how poised he was in the Olympics. In particular...pay attention to how he didn't back down against the Americans. He hit an open 3. He drilled a long 2 with Embiid in his face. He got his hands on the ball and stripped AD at the basket. All this from a 17 year old playing against future hall of famers.

If he cannot pass, he cannot play our offense.
Our offense heavily rely on our big to make plays. And we do not have a three level scoring guard who can generate the looks for a lob threat.

Yeah thats where i am at as well....It sounds good when people say he can develop things and he will one day be a scoring threat but him still having to develop a good offensive game while in the NBA is a little too raw for me....I think hes always a P&R Lob threat big man on offense....His upside best case scenario is Tyson Chandler....If we fall to 9th i could see us taking the swing but at 7 there is prolly more talented players on the board still....I think people want Maluach cause we have not had a competent C who can defend the rim since Ibaka....I get it as well because we need that skill set badly....Just i am not in the camp to use my high end lottery on a project...Use the 2nd rounders for that.

[ciueli]

Trust me...I love Derik Queen as a player. Give him the ball at the top of the key and watch him cook and he will deke and spin his way to the basket. Excellent footwork for a guy his size.

But I think Khaman can pick up the dribbling with development. And it is not like he can't shoot...it's just that's not how he was used at Duke. I posted a video earlier in this thread from when he was 16 at Basketball Africa Academy when they interviewed him, Chomche and an African center who is on the Florida Gators (Ruben Chinyelu I believe). Khaman was telling us how at 16...he was working on the 3 pointer and it was Kyle Korver who's mentoring him. So ya...I think he will be able to space the floor and probably very soon.

I said it last year before the lottery and just after the NCAA finals...Zach Edey would show off a 3 pointer and some improved agility at the combine and his stock would rise. And it did.

I think Khaman will show off some shooting at the combine and he might end up going 5-10 in the draft. His floor as a defender and rim protector is already there. A good development program will teach him how to be a more complete player and that could be scary.

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Check out how poised he was in the Olympics. In particular...pay attention to how he didn't back down against the Americans. He hit an open 3. He drilled a long 2 with Embiid in his face. He got his hands on the ball and stripped AD at the basket. All this from a 17 year old playing against future hall of famers.

If he cannot pass, he cannot play our offense.
Our offense heavily rely on our big to make plays. And we do not have a three level scoring guard who can generate the looks for a lob threat.

Yeah thats where i am at as well....It sounds good when people say he can develop things and he will one day be a scoring threat but him still having to develop a good offensive game while in the NBA is a little too raw for me....I think hes always a P&R Lob threat big man on offense....His upside best case scenario is Tyson Chandler....If we fall to 9th i could see us taking the swing but at 7 there is prolly more talented players on the board still....I think people want Maluach cause we have not had a competent C who can defend the rim since Ibaka....I get it as well because we need that skill set badly....Just i am not in the camp to use my high end lottery on a project...Use the 2nd rounders for that.

I'm not sure why we need a 3 level scoring guard to generate lob dunks, we have good passers on this team and a system completely built around that concept, we're just missing the player who can actually finish the lob dunk to do it. Last year I watched the Dallas Mavericks make the NBA Finals because they destroyed teams with lob dunks to Derek Lively II and Daniel Gafford, the Wolves were very much favoured in that series but couldn't do anything about that play in particular. Our team has not had that type of big man lob dunk threat... ever? In the 30 year history of our team we haven't had that type of player who is huge and can just cram the ball if you get it anywhere close to him while he is around the rim so I don't know how anyone knows that it won't be effective with the personnel we have.

[Indeed]

If he cannot pass, he cannot play our offense.
Our offense heavily rely on our big to make plays. And we do not have a three level scoring guard who can generate the looks for a lob threat.

Yeah thats where i am at as well....It sounds good when people say he can develop things and he will one day be a scoring threat but him still having to develop a good offensive game while in the NBA is a little too raw for me....I think hes always a P&R Lob threat big man on offense....His upside best case scenario is Tyson Chandler....If we fall to 9th i could see us taking the swing but at 7 there is prolly more talented players on the board still....I think people want Maluach cause we have not had a competent C who can defend the rim since Ibaka....I get it as well because we need that skill set badly....Just i am not in the camp to use my high end lottery on a project...Use the 2nd rounders for that.

I'm not sure why we need a 3 level scoring guard to generate lob dunks, we have good passers on this team and a system completely built around that concept, we're just missing the player who can actually finish the lob dunk to do it. Last year I watched the Dallas Mavericks make the NBA Finals because they destroyed teams with lob dunks to Derek Lively II and Daniel Gafford, the Wolves were very much favoured in that series but couldn't do anything about that play in particular. Our team has not had that type of big man lob dunk threat... ever? In the 30 year history of our team we haven't had that type of player who is huge and can just cram the ball if you get it anywhere close to him while he is around the rim so I don't know how anyone knows that it won't be effective with the personnel we have.

Dallas has Doncic and Irving, no?
What did San Antonio looked for? A guard who can make use of Wemby.
We can draft him and look for a guard like San Antonio, but Maluach is not a sure thing that you give up things for his potential.

[Tripod]

The one thing we would have around Maluach is multiple willing passers.

We have stressed IQ and RJ development in that area the last 1.5 years. So while we might not have 1 guy to spam it over and over, lobs can happen from multiple guys.

Plus, you don't just take him based on who we have today as that can change in the future. But if you take him, it's likely because you believe he can be more than just that in his career.

And fwiw, a bunch of Dallas fans want more out of Lively because he hasn’t improved in their eyes. And of course are very worried about who is going to get him thise lib opportunities. That is the same risk with Maluach.

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[Got Nuffin]

Trust me...I love Derik Queen as a player. Give him the ball at the top of the key and watch him cook and he will deke and spin his way to the basket. Excellent footwork for a guy his size.

But I think Khaman can pick up the dribbling with development. And it is not like he can't shoot...it's just that's not how he was used at Duke. I posted a video earlier in this thread from when he was 16 at Basketball Africa Academy when they interviewed him, Chomche and an African center who is on the Florida Gators (Ruben Chinyelu I believe). Khaman was telling us how at 16...he was working on the 3 pointer and it was Kyle Korver who's mentoring him. So ya...I think he will be able to space the floor and probably very soon.

I said it last year before the lottery and just after the NCAA finals...Zach Edey would show off a 3 pointer and some improved agility at the combine and his stock would rise. And it did.

I think Khaman will show off some shooting at the combine and he might end up going 5-10 in the draft. His floor as a defender and rim protector is already there. A good development program will teach him how to be a more complete player and that could be scary.

Watch on YouTube

Check out how poised he was in the Olympics. In particular...pay attention to how he didn't back down against the Americans. He hit an open 3. He drilled a long 2 with Embiid in his face. He got his hands on the ball and stripped AD at the basket. All this from a 17 year old playing against future hall of famers.

If he cannot pass, he cannot play our offense.
Our offense heavily rely on our big to make plays. And we do not have a three level scoring guard who can generate the looks for a lob threat.

Yeah thats where i am at as well....It sounds good when people say he can develop things and he will one day be a scoring threat but him still having to develop a good offensive game while in the NBA is a little too raw for me....I think hes always a P&R Lob threat big man on offense....His upside best case scenario is Tyson Chandler....If we fall to 9th i could see us taking the swing but at 7 there is prolly more talented players on the board still....I think people want Maluach cause we have not had a competent C who can defend the rim since Ibaka....I get it as well because we need that skill set badly....Just i am not in the camp to use my high end lottery on a project...Use the 2nd rounders for that.

Let's assume his upside is Tyson Chandler,, but if Maluach can translate his high % ft out to 3 - and he is so young a lot of people believe it's possible - well a Chandler with that kind of range is a damn rare and amazing beast.

I do really like Queen as well, but can see the argument for either of these guys, as well as Fears for sure.

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Carter is almost that possibility of the prototypical big wing star, hiding in plain sight. He's a project if he wants to become anything more than an OG type, but he looks so smooth in comparison. Could end up being the steal of the draft, or shooting up boards because of potential he never lives up to.

[Clutch0z24]

If he cannot pass, he cannot play our offense.
Our offense heavily rely on our big to make plays. And we do not have a three level scoring guard who can generate the looks for a lob threat.

Yeah thats where i am at as well....It sounds good when people say he can develop things and he will one day be a scoring threat but him still having to develop a good offensive game while in the NBA is a little too raw for me....I think hes always a P&R Lob threat big man on offense....His upside best case scenario is Tyson Chandler....If we fall to 9th i could see us taking the swing but at 7 there is prolly more talented players on the board still....I think people want Maluach cause we have not had a competent C who can defend the rim since Ibaka....I get it as well because we need that skill set badly....Just i am not in the camp to use my high end lottery on a project...Use the 2nd rounders for that.

Let's assume his upside is Tyson Chandler,, but if Maluach can translate his high % ft out to 3 - and he is so young a lot of people believe it's possible - well a Chandler with that kind of range is a damn rare and amazing beast.

I do really like Queen as well, but can see the argument for either of these guys, as well as Fears for sure.

Yeah ofc that is an amazing player....Chandler was one heck of a big man for his time....Its just hard for me to see Maluach being anything more than a Lob threat P&R guy....We can say he will be Chandler with a 3 pointer but he still has so much to develop in his game that he could also be the bust of the draft....And end up another Thon Maker/Thabeet/Darko.....Like i said i won't mind the swing at 9th...If we are choosing between CMB/Maluach/Kasparas/Kon ...Im prolly going Maluach....But at 7/8 if any of Tre/Queen/Fears are still on the board im prolly taking them respectfully.

[Godaddycurse]

I personally dont understand the love with Queen. Its much much harder to build a contender when your C is not a defensive anchor.

[Clutch0z24]

I personally dont understand the love with Queen. Its much much harder to build a contender when your C is not a defensive anchor.

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Just take the time and watch this whole video....And study the things hes able to do as a 6 foot 10 big man....Its rare you find a big man with this level of basketball skills....I would rather try and trade for an already established defensive big man than draft one that is so raw who could end up being a bust....Its like a gamble not worth taking for me....Id rather take Queen so you add a player you know already has NBA level offense to his game and you can teach him defensive positioning better sort of like a Jokic....You could use trade assets like RJ to try and get a defensive big man...I think we also still need a big man who can score because right now we have Mogbo/Yak....Both bigs who score off of other players setting them up or put back hustle plays....

Every team needs a big man they can give the ball to in the post or on the block and say get me some easy buckets and also make the right pass like Queen is able to do...We have zero players like that as well.....For me i just think Queen has the way less likely chance to be a bust because his offensive game is so polished.

[MainEvent]

Every team needs a big man they can give the ball to in the post or on the block and say get me some easy buckets and also make the right pass like Queen is able to do...We have zero players like that as well.....For me i just think Queen has the way less likely chance to be a bust because his offensive game is so polished.

It's not a need, we have seen plenty of teams win it all without a post/block big or whatever in recent history. Looking at the standings the top 3 teams don't have one this year

I'm definitely not saying I wouldn't draft him and agree that he has less chance to bust than some of the other bigs

[Got Nuffin]

Yeah thats where i am at as well....It sounds good when people say he can develop things and he will one day be a scoring threat but him still having to develop a good offensive game while in the NBA is a little too raw for me....I think hes always a P&R Lob threat big man on offense....His upside best case scenario is Tyson Chandler....If we fall to 9th i could see us taking the swing but at 7 there is prolly more talented players on the board still....I think people want Maluach cause we have not had a competent C who can defend the rim since Ibaka....I get it as well because we need that skill set badly....Just i am not in the camp to use my high end lottery on a project...Use the 2nd rounders for that.

Let's assume his upside is Tyson Chandler,, but if Maluach can translate his high % ft out to 3 - and he is so young a lot of people believe it's possible - well a Chandler with that kind of range is a damn rare and amazing beast.

I do really like Queen as well, but can see the argument for either of these guys, as well as Fears for sure.

Yeah ofc that is an amazing player....Chandler was one heck of a big man for his time....Its just hard for me to see Maluach being anything more than a Lob threat P&R guy....We can say he will be Chandler with a 3 pointer but he still has so much to develop in his game that he could also be the bust of the draft....And end up another Thon Maker/Thabeet/Darko.....Like i said i won't mind the swing at 9th...If we are choosing between CMB/Maluach/Kasparas/Kon ...Im prolly going Maluach....But at 7/8 if any of Tre/Queen/Fears are still on the board im prolly taking them respectfully.

Honestly the swing skill for Queen is the exact same thing. Queen's shooting form SUGGESTS he could be a perimeter shooter in the future but the guy shot 11% in college. He also needs to make a huge leap. If he does not develop NBA 3pt range and play down a spot, then how are you even going to play him in anything but a bench role considering his defensive deficiencies?

So for me Maluach and Queen are pretty even as candidates. Either way, Maluach's d will always be a selling point, as will Queen's offensive bag but they both need to develop the same thing and could struggle without it.

One thing to note is that Maluach is 18, while Queen is 20.

[Clutch0z24]

Let's assume his upside is Tyson Chandler,, but if Maluach can translate his high % ft out to 3 - and he is so young a lot of people believe it's possible - well a Chandler with that kind of range is a damn rare and amazing beast.

I do really like Queen as well, but can see the argument for either of these guys, as well as Fears for sure.

Yeah ofc that is an amazing player....Chandler was one heck of a big man for his time....Its just hard for me to see Maluach being anything more than a Lob threat P&R guy....We can say he will be Chandler with a 3 pointer but he still has so much to develop in his game that he could also be the bust of the draft....And end up another Thon Maker/Thabeet/Darko.....Like i said i won't mind the swing at 9th...If we are choosing between CMB/Maluach/Kasparas/Kon ...Im prolly going Maluach....But at 7/8 if any of Tre/Queen/Fears are still on the board im prolly taking them respectfully.

Honestly the swing skill for Queen is the exact same thing. Queen's shooting form SUGGESTS he could be a perimeter shooter in the future but the guy shot 11% in college. He also needs to make a huge leap. If he does not develop NBA 3pt range and play down a spot, then how are you even going to play him in anything but a bench role considering his defensive deficiencies?

So for me Maluach and Queen are pretty even as candidates. Either way, Maluach's d will always be a selling point, as will Queen's offensive bag but they both need to develop the same thing and could struggle without it.

One thing to note is that Maluach is 18, while Queen is 20.

He shot 20%...But yes the 3 point shot will be a big thing for Queen at the next level....But you suggest the 3 pointer will be the only thing these 2 need to get good at to succeed...I disagree....Queen has much less things to develop at the next level than Maluach.....Maluach needs to develop a whole slew of things.....If you want him to be as good or better than Queen.....For Queen it will def be his 3 point shooting , Defensive positioning....He already has good hands and has a good steal rate...Just needs to get his body in better shape so he can move his feet quicker to get better positioning....

For Maluach you need to develop a whole offensive game.....Or hes just Rob Williams...Good player but you could do better with a top 7 pick.

[Got Nuffin]

Yeah ofc that is an amazing player....Chandler was one heck of a big man for his time....Its just hard for me to see Maluach being anything more than a Lob threat P&R guy....We can say he will be Chandler with a 3 pointer but he still has so much to develop in his game that he could also be the bust of the draft....And end up another Thon Maker/Thabeet/Darko.....Like i said i won't mind the swing at 9th...If we are choosing between CMB/Maluach/Kasparas/Kon ...Im prolly going Maluach....But at 7/8 if any of Tre/Queen/Fears are still on the board im prolly taking them respectfully.

Honestly the swing skill for Queen is the exact same thing. Queen's shooting form SUGGESTS he could be a perimeter shooter in the future but the guy shot 11% in college. He also needs to make a huge leap. If he does not develop NBA 3pt range and play down a spot, then how are you even going to play him in anything but a bench role considering his defensive deficiencies?

So for me Maluach and Queen are pretty even as candidates. Either way, Maluach's d will always be a selling point, as will Queen's offensive bag but they both need to develop the same thing and could struggle without it.

One thing to note is that Maluach is 18, while Queen is 20.

He shot 20%...But yes the 3 point shot will be a big thing for Queen at the next level....But you suggest the 3 pointer will be the only thing these 2 need to get good at to succeed...I disagree....Queen has much less things to develop at the next level than Maluach.....Maluach needs to develop a whole slew of things.....If you want him to be as good or better than Queen.....For Queen it will def be his 3 point shooting , Defensive positioning....He already has good hands and has a good steal rate...Just needs to get his body in better shape so he can move his feet quicker to get better positioning....

For Maluach you need to develop a whole offensive game.....Or hes just Rob Williams...Good player but you could do better with a top 7 pick.

If Maluach is a Tyson Chandler, with or without 3pt range he could be starter on a team because of his defensive traits. Even if he only develops to Poeltl-level, that is still a starter in this league on a lot of teams.

Without 3pt range Queen is not a starter and more like maybe a Naz Reid off the bench scorer type. His defence is poor and he cannot protect the rim, so he's not a 5 but without shooting range and stronger foot speed he is not a 4 either. So thats' a guy you can bring off the bench and that's not worthy of a high pick either.

That is how I look at it. But that's looking negatively - they both have pretty high upside as well.

Like i said, if Maluach improves his range that could be an amazing / rare player at his size.

If Queen can effectively play and guard the 4 instead of 5, that's also a really great role player / offensive hub to have on the team.

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Honestly the swing skill for Queen is the exact same thing. Queen's shooting form SUGGESTS he could be a perimeter shooter in the future but the guy shot 11% in college. He also needs to make a huge leap. If he does not develop NBA 3pt range and play down a spot, then how are you even going to play him in anything but a bench role considering his defensive deficiencies?

So for me Maluach and Queen are pretty even as candidates. Either way, Maluach's d will always be a selling point, as will Queen's offensive bag but they both need to develop the same thing and could struggle without it.

One thing to note is that Maluach is 18, while Queen is 20.

He shot 20%...But yes the 3 point shot will be a big thing for Queen at the next level....But you suggest the 3 pointer will be the only thing these 2 need to get good at to succeed...I disagree....Queen has much less things to develop at the next level than Maluach.....Maluach needs to develop a whole slew of things.....If you want him to be as good or better than Queen.....For Queen it will def be his 3 point shooting , Defensive positioning....He already has good hands and has a good steal rate...Just needs to get his body in better shape so he can move his feet quicker to get better positioning....

For Maluach you need to develop a whole offensive game.....Or hes just Rob Williams...Good player but you could do better with a top 7 pick.

If Maluach is a Tyson Chandler, with or without 3pt range he could be starter on a team because of his defensive traits. Even if he only develops to Poeltl-level, that is still a starter in this league on a lot of teams.

Without 3pt range Queen is not a starter and more like maybe a Naz Reid off the bench scorer type. His defence is poor and he cannot protect the rim, so he's not a 5 but without shooting range and stronger foot speed he is not a 4 either. So thats' a guy you can bring off the bench and that's not worthy of a high pick either.

That is how I look at it. But that's looking negatively - they both have pretty high upside as well.

Like i said, if Maluach improves his range that could be an amazing / rare player at his size.

If Queen can effectively play and guard the 4 instead of 5, that's also a really great role player / offensive hub to have on the team.

Tyson Chandler with 3 point shooting is his ceiling.
If his average case is Mark Williams with an average 3 point shooting, is he that appearing to you? His block rate may not indicate he will be at that level.

[Indeed]

I personally dont understand the love with Queen. Its much much harder to build a contender when your C is not a defensive anchor.

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Just take the time and watch this whole video....And study the things hes able to do as a 6 foot 10 big man....Its rare you find a big man with this level of basketball skills....I would rather try and trade for an already established defensive big man than draft one that is so raw who could end up being a bust....Its like a gamble not worth taking for me....Id rather take Queen so you add a player you know already has NBA level offense to his game and you can teach him defensive positioning better sort of like a Jokic....You could use trade assets like RJ to try and get a defensive big man...I think we also still need a big man who can score because right now we have Mogbo/Yak....Both bigs who score off of other players setting them up or put back hustle plays....

Every team needs a big man they can give the ball to in the post or on the block and say get me some easy buckets and also make the right pass like Queen is able to do...We have zero players like that as well.....For me i just think Queen has the way less likely chance to be a bust because his offensive game is so polished.

How many PF or C has the skill set of Queen?
I believe his skill set will translate, and that offense would be above Barnes on day one (that fadeaway jumper is already there). I wouldn't surprise his offense will be in the line of Banchero.

[Clutch0z24]

I personally dont understand the love with Queen. Its much much harder to build a contender when your C is not a defensive anchor.

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Just take the time and watch this whole video....And study the things hes able to do as a 6 foot 10 big man....Its rare you find a big man with this level of basketball skills....I would rather try and trade for an already established defensive big man than draft one that is so raw who could end up being a bust....Its like a gamble not worth taking for me....Id rather take Queen so you add a player you know already has NBA level offense to his game and you can teach him defensive positioning better sort of like a Jokic....You could use trade assets like RJ to try and get a defensive big man...I think we also still need a big man who can score because right now we have Mogbo/Yak....Both bigs who score off of other players setting them up or put back hustle plays....

Every team needs a big man they can give the ball to in the post or on the block and say get me some easy buckets and also make the right pass like Queen is able to do...We have zero players like that as well.....For me i just think Queen has the way less likely chance to be a bust because his offensive game is so polished.

How many PF or C has the skill set of Queen?
I believe his skill set will translate, and that offense would be above Barnes on day one (that fadeaway jumper is already there). I wouldn't surprise his offense will be in the line of Banchero.

Yeah not many 6 foot 10 guys have this kind of offensive game....To me he looks like a 6 foot 10 Paul Pierce....Just cause the way he moves and can get to his spots even if it doesn't look athletic...Moves at his own pace and makes the game look easy....Him and Ingram would be an amazing offensive duo for us.

Thats why i highly doubt hes even available at 7/8 i think he goes top 5.

[junot111]

I personally dont understand the love with Queen. Its much much harder to build a contender when your C is not a defensive anchor.

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Just take the time and watch this whole video....And study the things hes able to do as a 6 foot 10 big man....Its rare you find a big man with this level of basketball skills....I would rather try and trade for an already established defensive big man than draft one that is so raw who could end up being a bust....Its like a gamble not worth taking for me....Id rather take Queen so you add a player you know already has NBA level offense to his game and you can teach him defensive positioning better sort of like a Jokic....You could use trade assets like RJ to try and get a defensive big man...I think we also still need a big man who can score because right now we have Mogbo/Yak....Both bigs who score off of other players setting them up or put back hustle plays....

Every team needs a big man they can give the ball to in the post or on the block and say get me some easy buckets and also make the right pass like Queen is able to do...We have zero players like that as well.....For me i just think Queen has the way less likely chance to be a bust because his offensive game is so polished.

He almost looks like a less athletic version of scottie that went to big man camp and didn't try to play like a guard. If I had to name a comp it'd be sengun. I agree he's most likely gone after 5.